Duchess of Success succeeds in getting the ridiculous lawsuit by Samantha Markle dismissed

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

Common sense decision this.

I hope that the tabloids who were (most probably) sponsoring this non-case of Samantha Markle's will pay the Duchess of Sussex her legal fees.

The judge correctly found that how Meghan felt about her upbringing was a subjective opinion about her childhood and her relationship with her half-sister. The court found that Meghan's statement about "feeling like an only child" is not objectively verifiable or subject to empirical proof, and, as a statement of pure opinion was “not capable of being proved false”.
The court also said the plaintiff Samantha "cannot plausibly disprove" Meghan's "opinion of her own childhood."

On the claims based on Finding Freedom, the court said the Duchess could not be held accountable for a book that she did not write or publish.

Go Meghan. I'm sure Samantha will file something else again soon ... and that she will lose again.

@Viviennemary I agree - I’m not sure Camilla is that bothered about looks - she’s a horsy gal - and pushing 80 - I think she’s got better things to worry about - same with Charles

Nice Chanel bag though 😃

I don’t know why these surgery’s are a secret, it’s much the same with their diets. They apparently eat all this food, but defy the laws of chemistry.

Yes - I have respect for Liz Hurley who is open about the fact that she has spent most of her adult life hungry, and regards a handful of raisins as a treat.

God, can you imagine how this is? I can't. I love treats, I love my food and drink. I have to constantly think about what I'm eating, it's really really boring. But I have been a size 20 and a size 8, so that's where I am. I know what I have to do (it's not helped by my best friend naturally being a size 10 and eats and drinks anything!)

I don't think anyone is criticising meghans looks. She is very beautiful, as is kate.

It’s interesting if you’re an athlete it’s okay to admit training all hours of the day and following a strict diet but an actress has to be ‘discovered without trying, be perfectly natural without any tweaks and eat like a horse’

There are naturally better looking female celebrities who have had less work done and didn't use family connections to make it big. For example, Barbara Palvin and Margot Robbie.
When you aren't doing well is the time to consider surgery.

I would say Meghan is attractive (to men/women) and Kate is classically beautiful. One is not worse or better than the other - I fall into the Meghan category myself so not being snide. I’d be amazed if many people in the public eye have not had work done - although not always surgery. Botox and lip fillers are common place for us ordinaries round here.

I remember in the late(ish) 1970s, when I was a kid, reading about Farrah Fawcett's diet, when she was in Charlie's Angels. No breakfast, a handful of nuts mid-morning, half an avocado for lunch, and grilled fish and vegetables for dinner. Every working day.

She said that at the weekend 'anything goes' which meant that 'I might have a slice of pizza or something'.

My comments were absolutely deliberate. They were not "squeezed" in but openly made.

To illustrate the point that "nasty" things can be said about the others too, but you think it's only "nasty" when unkind things are said about them, but are happy to speculate nastily about Meghan while calling comments about K and C "nasty".

Quod erat demonstrandum.

What is it, in your mind, that makes Meghan so different from the others that you think its okay to tear her looks apart, speculate on what she has had "done" etc, but it is not okay to do that for the others? Why is it okay to compare her unfavourably with her sister, and, in one famous thread, with Sasha Walpole?

It's simple. The one thing that marks her physically from the other is that the others are white, and she is not.

Because why else is there one rule for her and a different one for her sister, for Sasha, for the other royal women who all happen to be white?

You think it's okay to do this to Meghan because you consider her "other", unlike the other women that you consider fully human.

Own your bullshit, please.

Negative comments about womens’ looks and comparisons made between women are not acceptable anywhere. But crazy that people make them on a woman’s forum and very depressing that it’s women (seemingly) making them.

How do we change the lives of our daughters and sons and grandchildren etc., if we opine the same old negativity in regard to women’s images?

Kate is classically beautiful.

Can you explain what you mean by this - what does classically beautiful mean?

I have never heard a black woman described on these forums as "classically" beautiful. As we have seen in the last few pages, the woman of colour whose looks are being dissected here is beautiful only because "she has had work done", her white sister is apparently "naturally pretty "and her white sister in law is "classically beautiful".

@MrsMaxDeWinter Classically beautiful is simply that. Why make a nonsense out of a description? Classical beauty is a Greek god or Italian statue (you do know Greeks and Italians often have a similar skin tone to your heroine?).

Of course black women are classically beautiful too. The black woman who appears frequently on sky news Australia (female, black, British) is stunning. Her bone structure is superb. Classically beautiful is all about bone structure and uniformity of features. I think she a journalist and she hasn't got a good word to say about Meghan 😂

I think she a journalist and she hasn't got a good word to say about Meghan 😂

Are all black people obliged to have the same view about Meghan? Why do you think that is?

I don't, I'm only countering your snarky comment about 'classically beautiful'. Found a pic.

So what? She isn't classically beautiful. I don't consider the others to be classically beautiful. Who made you the authority on beauty anyway?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, everyone is entitled to an opinion

I grew up in 70/80’s ireland (not a lot of diversity then) but I remember being blown away by Whitney Houston. I thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world and her voice was break-taking too. It was so sad how her life ended up

Would love to talk more about the luminous Whitney @Howsimplywonderful but this thread has been derailed anough. If you can, do please find a clip on YouTube where she sings with her mother, do a search for Whitney and Cissy Houston. Magic.

Thanks

I have never heard a black woman described on these forums as "classically" beautiful.

Or very commonly in general. Let’s not pretend that throughout history black and brown women haven’t been described as manly, ugly, large features mocked because they’re not tiny pretty, and ‘classically beautiful’. Because we are all adults and must be aware of the reality, right. So while someone here may not have thought that when they wrote it, it’s definitely a thing. The fact it’s Meghan’s nose being discussed a lot as having been altered is also a sore point for some black women, who commonly have larger facial features. It may be annoying for others that these discussions trigger certain reactions from women of colour here, but try for a second to remember that we have had our looks discussed in a very different way throughout history and the conversations land differently for us.

Whitney Houston was just stunning. Only the good die young as they say

Yes - I have respect for Liz Hurley who is open about the fact that she has spent most of her adult life hungry, and regards a handful of raisins as a treat.

I watched a documentary about Beyoncé and how much of her teenage years were working towards her goal and the huge support she got form her parents - putting a stain on their health and marriage.

She was already very successful - attending a family party and success was weighing up if it was worth eating a some kind of sticky rib she really wanted - she was working out how much extra work in the gym next day it would entail and put it back as it wasn't worth it. That was success more hard work and more denial.

I never though Kate much more than pretty when younger - pretty but nothing unusual - I think she looks way better now despite all the comments here. I think some of that is style - which is probably armour against the press scrutiny. She looked lovely on her wedding day and I think that day showed how much support her family gave her.

Most of the criticism I see of Meghan on-line isn't saying she not beautiful it's saying she messy - shoes too big and hair falling down or clearly isn't using a stylist and things don't look perfect- and I do think so what.

This someone who probably had to worry about her looks for decades for work and now she can worry less and be herself much more and still looks better than most people.

But do you think Whitney was classically beautiful? Because I still don't understand what that is is even when you link to ancient goddesses with apparently the same skin tone as Meghan, but with Kate's bone structure Kate does not look like a Roman goddess so I'm not sure how Kate is classic but Meghan is not.

I'm not saying either are or are not - maybe it is just subjective.