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Edward the new Duke of Edinburgh

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SnottyLottie · 10/03/2023 09:05

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/03/10/king-charles-prince-edward-royal-family-title-duke-edinburgh/

In order to honour Edward’s 59th birthday

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EdithWeston · 10/03/2023 18:55

Separately, they are starting to run out of traditional Royal Dukedom titles to give away. They've potentially only got York, Edinburgh and Cambridge left for future use, unless they want to be more creative in future

Well they could reuse Clarence (I always thought that would have been a good one for Harry). Also they could potentially bring back extinct ones or those merged with the Crown: Hereford, Warwick, Exeter, Albany, Avondale, Aumale, Surrey, Cumberland, Ross

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 10/03/2023 19:10

They can’t use Cumberland or Albany I don’t think? Weren’t they ones removed in 1917?

In case the deprived holders want to argue the case to get them back.

Kendal is another old one they could use. That was touted as a possible for Harry I’m sure.

vera99 · 10/03/2023 19:17

EdithWeston · 10/03/2023 18:55

Separately, they are starting to run out of traditional Royal Dukedom titles to give away. They've potentially only got York, Edinburgh and Cambridge left for future use, unless they want to be more creative in future

Well they could reuse Clarence (I always thought that would have been a good one for Harry). Also they could potentially bring back extinct ones or those merged with the Crown: Hereford, Warwick, Exeter, Albany, Avondale, Aumale, Surrey, Cumberland, Ross

Probably time for a reboot and give some of these new towns and ideas a go ;

Baron Milton Keynes, Countess of Albion, Duke of Ellington and as a nod to Charles the First - The Duke of Cromwell, Lord Protector of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland and Ireland.

Serenster · 10/03/2023 19:25

There are various extinct (non-royal) peerages that could be re-created if needed. The Duke of Buckingham is an obvious one. It’s been created four times since the 1400s but has always died out.

They can also make up new ones - Windsor, for example. Wessex was made up too. And Wessex opens the door to various other obsolete options - Mercia, East Anglia, Bernicia etc…

EdithWeston · 10/03/2023 19:28

Or create a new model one - Poundbury?

saffy9876 · 10/03/2023 19:34

I've just discovered that the Duke of Kent is also a Prince Edward and the Duke of Gloucester is Prince Richard , I did not know that, and I also didn't know that there is a hierarchy even among royal dukes, after William its Harry, Andrew, Edward, Richard, Edward.

I wonder if the Duke of Edinburgh title came with a pay rise?

PuttingDownRoots · 10/03/2023 19:43

saffy9876 · 10/03/2023 19:34

I've just discovered that the Duke of Kent is also a Prince Edward and the Duke of Gloucester is Prince Richard , I did not know that, and I also didn't know that there is a hierarchy even among royal dukes, after William its Harry, Andrew, Edward, Richard, Edward.

I wonder if the Duke of Edinburgh title came with a pay rise?

And the Duke of Gloucester elder brother was a Prince William!

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 10/03/2023 19:43

The Duke of Gloucester’s elder brother was Prince William. They do tend to stick with a small bunch of names, especially for the boys!

EdithWeston · 10/03/2023 19:47

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 10/03/2023 19:43

The Duke of Gloucester’s elder brother was Prince William. They do tend to stick with a small bunch of names, especially for the boys!

His name is still spoken so lives on - there's a Prince William of Gloucester Barracks (Grantham, Lincolnshire)

saffy9876 · 10/03/2023 19:48

I wonder if Prince George might become the next Duke of Windsor.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 10/03/2023 19:49

saffy9876 · 10/03/2023 19:48

I wonder if Prince George might become the next Duke of Windsor.

In terms of title or bailing out?

Roussette · 10/03/2023 19:52

EdithWeston · 10/03/2023 18:55

Separately, they are starting to run out of traditional Royal Dukedom titles to give away. They've potentially only got York, Edinburgh and Cambridge left for future use, unless they want to be more creative in future

Well they could reuse Clarence (I always thought that would have been a good one for Harry). Also they could potentially bring back extinct ones or those merged with the Crown: Hereford, Warwick, Exeter, Albany, Avondale, Aumale, Surrey, Cumberland, Ross

Windsor certainly won't be back!

OutOfChocolate · 10/03/2023 20:01

Clioma · 10/03/2023 09:21

It was the Queen's gift to Edward when he married, ie that he become Duke of Edinburgh once both Prince Philip and she were no longer with us. I'm glad that Charles has respected his mother's wishes.

There was lots of hints Charles was not going to give it to him.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 10/03/2023 20:02

OutOfChocolate · 10/03/2023 20:01

There was lots of hints Charles was not going to give it to him.

There really wasn’t.

It was pure speculation by media outlets that had forgotten, or missed, or misunderstood, how the granting of the title works.

SenecaFallsRedux · 10/03/2023 20:04

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 10/03/2023 20:02

There really wasn’t.

It was pure speculation by media outlets that had forgotten, or missed, or misunderstood, how the granting of the title works.

Exactly. It was all pure speculation that Edward would not get the title.

CliffsofMohair · 10/03/2023 20:21

LadyEloise1 · 10/03/2023 13:35

Apparently her late mother was Irish.
Was she born and reared in Ireland or of Irish descent ?

I think she was born and reared in Ireland. Her maiden name was O’Sullivan as I recall.

WheresTheForum · 10/03/2023 20:45

IcedPurple · 10/03/2023 10:16

No he isn't. He's still Viscount Severn. His father still holds the Wessex Earldom.

No. He’s now the Earl of Wessex.

www.royal.uk/succession

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2023 20:55

There are various extinct (non-royal) peerages that could be re-created if needed.

'Needed' by whom?

Surely resurrecting long defunct gongs isn't in line with the modernised monarchy we've long been tantalised by and are now by all appearances being denied?

They can also make up new ones

Farcically enough...

Roussette · 10/03/2023 20:57

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2023 20:55

There are various extinct (non-royal) peerages that could be re-created if needed.

'Needed' by whom?

Surely resurrecting long defunct gongs isn't in line with the modernised monarchy we've long been tantalised by and are now by all appearances being denied?

They can also make up new ones

Farcically enough...

Won't be 'Windsor' though!

embarrassing

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2023 20:57

They do tend to stick with a small bunch of names, especially for the boys!

'John' hasn't made a comeback...

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2023 20:58

Won't be 'Windsor' though!

😁

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 10/03/2023 20:59

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2023 20:57

They do tend to stick with a small bunch of names, especially for the boys!

'John' hasn't made a comeback...

They’re a very superstitious bunch!

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2023 21:08

They’re a very superstitious bunch!

And running out of monikers

KrasiTime · 10/03/2023 21:10

CathyorClaire · 10/03/2023 20:57

They do tend to stick with a small bunch of names, especially for the boys!

'John' hasn't made a comeback...

There was a Prince John, younger brother to Edward V111 who died very young. Had a sad life IIRC.

mixedrecycling · 10/03/2023 21:22

EdithWeston · 10/03/2023 18:55

Separately, they are starting to run out of traditional Royal Dukedom titles to give away. They've potentially only got York, Edinburgh and Cambridge left for future use, unless they want to be more creative in future

Well they could reuse Clarence (I always thought that would have been a good one for Harry). Also they could potentially bring back extinct ones or those merged with the Crown: Hereford, Warwick, Exeter, Albany, Avondale, Aumale, Surrey, Cumberland, Ross

I think Aumale is in France?

I think the rest are in the UK