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miri1985 · 2023-03-08T12:25:56+00:00

What happened to just call me Harry? Why would they want their children to be burdened with titles? “When reached by PEOPLE, a spokesperson for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex said: "I can confirm that Princess Lilibet Diana was christened on Friday, March 3 by the Archbishop of Los Angeles, the Rev John Taylor." https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-daughter-princess-lilibet-christened-california/

MarshaMelrose · 09/03/2023 08:49

sydneysunset · 09/03/2023 08:43

America doesn’t really need totality to feel special there are so many influential old money families like Mellon , Getty , Hearst , even newer dynasties like Bush , these names are far more acknowledged and important

Indeed. And H&M have so far failed to make any impression on American society. The great & the good haven't exactly been beating a path to their door & they've been snubbed from all the blue ribbon events, such as the Obama party, Met gala etc. The American establishment will no doubt be curling its collective lip at the princess announcement in much the same way as most in the UK are.

But how do we know they weren't invited to Obamas birthday party but she was too pregnant to go? And Anna Wintour turning them down for the Met? It's not like her guest list shows high standards.
I get that you'd think they go if invited but these events were on the East coast so maybe it wasn't convenient.

Roussette · 09/03/2023 08:51

PicturesOfDogs · 09/03/2023 08:35

What’s that got to do with the double standards of posters though?
As I said, the people gleefully talking about C&Cs convo, when people would freak if the same was done to H&M.

And I wish Harry well in his court case.

Maybe if he proves hacks were where the stories about him came from, he can stop the ridiculous smear campaign about his brother ‘leaking and briefing and planting’ about him, to which he’s never presented a single shred of evidence.

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Gosh. Not sure what to say on this.

Of course I would froth about hacking on H&M. And if you read my posts I have called Charles's hacking abhorrent. And said it should never have happened, it should never have reached the public's ears, and it was awful.

What a backhanded well done Harry you've managed there.

I have NO IDEA why you are dragging in smear, leaking, briefing and all of that.

That was not what I was talking about. And not the point of my post. And no, he won't be proving anything like that because Harry's hacking happened in early 2000 and I'm pretty sure Charles isn't involved in hacking.

MarshaMelrose · 09/03/2023 08:52

Thanks @Eyerollcentral , for responding. I missed it - too busy watching the last 3 episodes of Happy Valley! I just wanted to acknowledge you before the thread closes.

user1465390476 · 09/03/2023 08:52

The Greek Royals can live fairly under the radar but Lilibet and Archie won’t have that privilege. They’ll be followed their whole lives. Perhaps it’s because I have teenagers that I’m thinking about how they’ll manage things in the future.

GiesAGonkYaDobber · 09/03/2023 08:53

The revenge could be President Meghan on her first state visit to England (UK having broken up, sadly) along wih her First Man Harry being greeted by King William and his newer wife who has finally made William happy in his dotage and the brothers are friends once more.

Lilibet christened and will be using the title Princess

vera99 · 09/03/2023 08:53

EdithWeston · 09/03/2023 08:35

There is no way that someone with a reputation for making any part of their life public is going to become a candidate for either of the major parties (because to achieve that you need to strike all sorts of deals to get there, and that simply won't happen with anyone with a reputation for indiscretion).

And they're just not rich enough to go it alone (like Ross Perot, or even like Trump, the only "independent" who won, but only because he managed to wangle a party's backing)

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You're probably right - whilst the desire may be there in Meghan she doesn't yet have that sort of constituency, and I'm not sure Tyler Perry cuts it quite yet. But who knows how the world will change - decades ago I was aghast when the actor Ronald Reagan (very B-list) got the Presidency, and we've got far worse since then. She's gone from humble beginnings to probably one of the famous women in the world already (admittedly by hitching her wagon to a despised Royal) and politics in the US is part entertainment, part power politics and part a channelling of inchoate rage. If she stops at 2 and finishes the book, then she will be restless once again,

She's currently 100/1 for 2024

www.oddschecker.com/insight/politics/20200422-us-presidential-election-odds-meghan-markle-a-popular-bet-for-2024

user1465390476 · 09/03/2023 08:54

The Obamas have clearly put some distance between them. They were very fond of the Queen and didn’t Michelle say something about the conflict?

Roussette · 09/03/2023 08:54

user1465390476 · 09/03/2023 08:41

People give an awful lot of their energy supporting Meghan and Harry. I don’t understand it.

People give an awful lot of their energy hating on Meghan and Harry. I don't understand it.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 09/03/2023 08:55

But how do we know they weren't invited to Obamas birthday party

I never understand this either. Do MNetters have access to guest lists? Or is it taken from the tabloids?

medianewbie · 09/03/2023 08:56

Roussette · 09/03/2023 08:27

I do feel a bit sorry for Charles and tampongate. It will never go away and it should never ever have reached the public's ears. Very unfair. And - to me - highlights how awful hacking is.

So I'm going to say it here... well done Harry for persisting with your hacking case against the Mirror. It is due to be heard at the High Court in May.

21 famous people have accepted damages. He hasn't. And there are a handful of other celebs who are with him on this (Cheryl Cole, the estate of George Michael, Ian Wright etc). This was hacking on an industrial scale. For Harry some 148 articles published in the 14 years included information that was allegedly obtained through unlawful means. Just disgusting.

Charles should be proud of him for this being subjected to hacking himself. And he should receive some recognition from anti Harry people on here, for hanging on in there. No doubt he will be ridiculed for it though. Because no anti H&M people recognise any good in anything this couple do.

I hope this case wins through.

@Roussette Very well said ! 👏

Luredbyapomegranate · 09/03/2023 08:59

Princess Lilibet does sound like The Princess Bride II, which doesn’t help..

MarshaMelrose · 09/03/2023 08:59

Meghan would never be president. You need tough skin and she folded after working less than six months in the UK. She could never withstand the nastiness aimed at US presidents. If she thinks what she went through with the UKpress was bad, she ain't seen nothing. I'm pretty sure if did have ambitions like that, and I'm sure she didn't, she will have changed her mind now.

Ridemeginger · 09/03/2023 09:02

Bringing up the Charles/tampon remark really is scraping the barrel. He was the victim of phone hacking. He didn't say he wanted to be a tampon, he said it would be "just his luck" if he did. Bloody hell, it was a bit of daft sex chat made in private.

If you want to talk about lowering the brand, a supposedly modern Prince, coming of age in the 21st Century and demanding respect in the army, publicly referring to a cadet as a P* and another as "looking like a rag-head", and
recording himself saying it, would fit the bill. Oh, and the RF, which he claims never supported him, made plenty of excuses for his racism.

I don't hate H&M. I think they are distasteful. As a woman of colour myself, I dislike their racism narrative. They have trivialised the word, lied about it and monetised it. He is not a good person WRT racism. I don't believe for a second he is some sort of reformed character, merely someone who has swallowed a critical race theory manual, and is using it to make himself look good, as so many white savour/SJW types do. There's no way anyone would be defending his past behaviour if it were not for his current marriage.

Ooompaloopa · 09/03/2023 09:02

Roussette · 09/03/2023 08:30

Anyway, imagine if the media hacked and realised Harry and Meghans private ‘pillow talk’. I’m sure the posters constantly bringing this up would be ‘frothing’. Such double standards

See my previous post. He is actively fighting against hacking. And as I said, I think it was abhorrent that Charles's private phone conversation was made public.

Yes it is brilliant that PH is fighting hacking - I wish him well and applaud his determination.

However your post appears as a whataboutery reaction in an attempt to distract from the tasteless double standard posting of one of your pack.

Do you have the moral compass to directly call out @MrsMaxDeWinter tasteless and double standard post?

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/03/2023 09:03

Thanks to all those who corrected my memory of the Tampongate tapes!!

Xenia · 09/03/2023 09:04

I raised the plae of baptism issue but said in emergencies you can baptise anywhere and rightly someone pointed out although Harry was baptised in a proper chapel Prince William like Lilibet was baptised at home. It is slighly unusual for siblings to have slightly different religions but is the choice of the partents of course and Episcopalian is under or related to C of E anyway.

[Baptismal names are not the same as legal names always. Sometimes an extra religious one is added in (as in Catholic Confirmation too) but it is never part of your official civil registered name]
I think it is a pity both grandfathers were unable to attend but there you are. Hopefully the families on both sides can come closer together in due course.

EdithWeston · 09/03/2023 09:04

Luredbyapomegranate · 09/03/2023 08:59

Princess Lilibet does sound like The Princess Bride II, which doesn’t help..

We'll get used to it

Prince Archie and Princess Lili(bet) do sound "unusual" because we've had a century where all the Prince/ss names have been traditional ones, usually repeating the names of offspring of Queen Victoria. So names that branch out a bit could seem a little strange at first but that impression will fade rapidly.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 09/03/2023 09:04

MarshaMelrose · 09/03/2023 08:59

Meghan would never be president. You need tough skin and she folded after working less than six months in the UK. She could never withstand the nastiness aimed at US presidents. If she thinks what she went through with the UKpress was bad, she ain't seen nothing. I'm pretty sure if did have ambitions like that, and I'm sure she didn't, she will have changed her mind now.

So Meghan hasn't shown any interest but posts are about how she would never make it as president and how she lacks the skills and character etc etc and there are even bets that she has no chance. Meanwhile she hasn't shown any interest?

user1465390476 · 09/03/2023 09:05

@Roussette I don’t understand the love, I don’t understand the hate either. We are talking about a couple who, if you were sat on the next table to them in a restaurant, probably wouldn’t even look in your direction.

Serenster · 09/03/2023 09:05

Decades ago I was aghast when the actor Ronald Reagan (very B-list) got the Presidency, and we've got far worse since then

Ronald Reagan didn’t get the Presidency because of his B-list movie career though! That was almost incidental. It was his many years as a union leader (President of the Screen Actors Guild), his being the face of the conservative CEO of General Electric, including doing lots of visits to their small town sites and factories to push the corporate values, and his support and work for 1964 presidential candidate Barry Goldwater that made him a credible candidate to be Governor of California, and ultimately a himself presidential candidate.

Meghan has no comparable experience to that herself.

jeffgoldblum · 09/03/2023 09:06

I believe the posts are in reply to Vera99 who brought up the topic on this thread , ask her .

Ridemeginger · 09/03/2023 09:08

@Xenia Was Thomas Markle "unable to attend"? Was he invited?

Why is his legacy (being a single parent to Meghan, paying for her expensive education, providing her connections to meet her ambitions) not as important to the 2 Sussex children as their RF legacy?

PreparationPreparationPrep · 09/03/2023 09:09

user1465390476 · 09/03/2023 09:05

@Roussette I don’t understand the love, I don’t understand the hate either. We are talking about a couple who, if you were sat on the next table to them in a restaurant, probably wouldn’t even look in your direction.

That makes more sense you can't understand it from either side. Your original post didn't say that

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/03/2023 09:10

I think it is a pity both grandfathers were unable to attend but there you are.

It is entirely understandable Charles did not attend. He is King and is busy.

I imagine that Thomas did not attend due to his equally busy schedule of hopping around YT channels discussing whether his daughter had abortions as a teenager and whether she collected her frozen eggs!

Roussette · 09/03/2023 09:10

Ooompaloopa · 09/03/2023 09:02

Yes it is brilliant that PH is fighting hacking - I wish him well and applaud his determination.

However your post appears as a whataboutery reaction in an attempt to distract from the tasteless double standard posting of one of your pack.

Do you have the moral compass to directly call out @MrsMaxDeWinter tasteless and double standard post?

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What? I looked at the furore about Charles tampongate and responded to that. Why do I have to police other posters?

I keep getting asked to call out other posters, you don't do it, why should I ?

I picked up on something that interested me, Charles's and Harry's phone hacking and responded.

I was NOT trying to distract on anything. I don't have 'a pack'. I responded to hacking of Charles, with the recent news about the date of the Mirror court case and Harry being part of it.