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What's the big deal about Fogmore Cottage?

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Price21210 · 07/03/2023 19:13

They are rarely in the UK. It would just sitting there empty. It makes no sense. Also, if Harry and Meghan need a home in Britain, why not buy a home?

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notanotheroneagain · 08/03/2023 07:55

Novella4 · 08/03/2023 07:19

😂
So that applies to all the 'royals'

The 'royals' own Balmoral and sandringham . All the rest are owned by the state . Charles is playing house and performing for the base hard line ( hard of thinking ) supporters who want Harry punished publicly for telling a few truths
All of the 'working' ( lol) winsdors have multiple properties all standing empty for months all with state paid for security year round - occupied or not

So remove the secure property from your biracial grandchildren and move in uncle sex offender . Because to be a royalist you need to put Andrew above Harry because Andrew doesn't criticise the set up .
Nice .

For those worried Harry will be booed- Charles and Camilla will need a brass band following them around to try to drown out the protesters

Haha,
Don't forget the umbrellas for the eggs 😂

notanotheroneagain · 08/03/2023 07:56

Serenster · 07/03/2023 21:58

Helpful I think to look back at what Meghan and Harry themselves said about their Frogmore Cottage home when they released their statements on the Sussex Royal website back in January 2020:

The refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage was funded by the Queen through the Sovereign Grant, reflecting the Monarchy’s responsibility to maintain the upkeep of buildings with historical significance. Expenses related to fixtures, furnishings, and fittings at the official residence – which is owned by the Queen – were funded privately by The Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Frogmore Cottage will continue to be the property of the Queen. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will continue to use Frogmore Cottage – with the permission of the Queen – as their official residence as they continue to support the Monarchy, and so that their family will always have a place to call home in the United Kingdom.

So - they acknowledge they never owned it, recognised they only retained a right to use it while they supported the monarchy, and clarified that they only paid for the decoration of it to their tastes, with the Queen paying for all the other renovations and updating.

Given this, it’s hard to see why they or their supporters could feel they are now hard done by.

Some 'gift' that was !

notanotheroneagain · 08/03/2023 08:02

Roussette · 07/03/2023 22:48

So you want to know exactly how much? I don't think that's been reported anywhere. Why do you say 'if any'

It's everywhere that is the case

You are correct @Roussette the amount was not disclosed.

What we were told was that they paid back the 2.4M for renovations and 1yr advance on the commercial price rent. So, they paid more than the 2.4M some seem to believe.

What's the big deal about Fogmore Cottage?
What's the big deal about Fogmore Cottage?
What's the big deal about Fogmore Cottage?
Roussette · 08/03/2023 08:07

Well ... according to some on here, the rent is £3.50 and Charles paid it lol

notanotheroneagain · 08/03/2023 08:12

adrianmolesmole · 07/03/2023 19:47

Most royal residences are just sitting around empty most of the time too. You could complain about that..

True, they could buy a home but it's pretty mean of Charles to take away the one safe and secure property his son had in this country, to do that to his own flesh and blood, including grandchildren, that he'd paid up for. Extremely mean, actually. They deserve to be reimbursed for the work they put into it at least.

Very mean indeed, Charles and Camilla have something like 10 properties sitting there empty. They could have moved Andrew to anyone of them. They are well aware that H&M have memories for their kids at FC. Also, I imagine, so does Eugenie - where does she stay when coming to the UK, actually?

At some point, I think they realised that their spite only strengthened the case for Harry against the Home Office- doubt it went down well with the public either. No 'but they will have security on palace grounds'.

Now they came up with the BP offer, that they know H&M may well refuse if they don't want C&C spies eavesdropping and twisting for the press.

Anyway, I think H&M can buy and possibly rent out a small flat in London and stay with Elton John or someone who will happily welcome them. That will keep their dual citizenship.

Coxspurplepippin · 08/03/2023 08:16

Roussette · 08/03/2023 08:07

Well ... according to some on here, the rent is £3.50 and Charles paid it lol

You can 'lol' all you like, but unless you can tell all regarding the amount of rent paid it might be any amount between £60 billion and £3.50. You don't know. And considering many residences are on a peppercorn rent, it seems more likely to be nearer the £3.50 end of the scale

Coxspurplepippin · 08/03/2023 08:23

'They are well aware that H&M have memories for their kids at FC. Also, I imagine, so does Eugenie - where does she stay when coming to the UK, actually?'

Harry and Meghan lived at Frogmore less than a year before their race to FREEDOM. How can their daughter have memories of the cottage when she wasn't born until after they left? How can their son have memories of his time at Frogmore when he was an infant when they left.

Eugenie, if the UK isn't her permanent residence, can stay with her mother,father, or sister.

And yes, perhaps Harry and Meghan could buy a property themselves. Because they wouldn't want to be beholden to a family and institution they dislike so much, would they?

TrashyPanda · 08/03/2023 08:26

Harry would be put in some workers shack somewhere

hilarious

like he is Harry Potter, poor little precious pet.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 08/03/2023 08:29

DobbyTheHouseElk · 07/03/2023 20:03

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was because of the way they spoke about Nott Cott.

I know. Still can't get over the ingratitude for that.

IcedPurple · 08/03/2023 08:30

Coxspurplepippin · 08/03/2023 08:23

'They are well aware that H&M have memories for their kids at FC. Also, I imagine, so does Eugenie - where does she stay when coming to the UK, actually?'

Harry and Meghan lived at Frogmore less than a year before their race to FREEDOM. How can their daughter have memories of the cottage when she wasn't born until after they left? How can their son have memories of his time at Frogmore when he was an infant when they left.

Eugenie, if the UK isn't her permanent residence, can stay with her mother,father, or sister.

And yes, perhaps Harry and Meghan could buy a property themselves. Because they wouldn't want to be beholden to a family and institution they dislike so much, would they?

Absolutely agree that they could buy their own property. I thought they were all about 'financial independence'? And given that Harry has made something of a 'career' from telling the world how awful his family is, why would he want to be in any way dependent on them?

It's not like they even valued FC as a holiday home. They have spent the bare minimum amount of time there over the past 3 years, despite having ample opportunity to visit. Even for the Jubilee, their private jet was already in the air when the pageant was happening. Seems they couldn't wait to get out of there, but now it's a beloved home?

Abra1t · 08/03/2023 08:31

Surely Meghan would actually prefer an apartment in Buckingham Palace in central London, close to shops, Soho House, with extensive grounds, etc, to Frogmore Cottage?

Logicoutofthewindow · 08/03/2023 08:37

Harry has several hundred millions from Netflix, the book and numerous other selling his family down the river ploys he doesn't need the cottage.

Is Andrew a sex offender? 17 years old and consent? I don't know. There are numerous people who have affairs/relationships with people much younger - The Radfords - age 14 when pregnant to an 18 year old but that appears ok. Many pop stars and it appears ok. I don't know the back story but I thought 16 was the age of consent. Many young have sex at younger than that and some with older people?

Roussette · 08/03/2023 08:37

IcedPurple · 08/03/2023 08:30

Absolutely agree that they could buy their own property. I thought they were all about 'financial independence'? And given that Harry has made something of a 'career' from telling the world how awful his family is, why would he want to be in any way dependent on them?

It's not like they even valued FC as a holiday home. They have spent the bare minimum amount of time there over the past 3 years, despite having ample opportunity to visit. Even for the Jubilee, their private jet was already in the air when the pageant was happening. Seems they couldn't wait to get out of there, but now it's a beloved home?

Given that people are telling them to bugger off, I don't blame them!

Who said it was a beloved home? Not them I don't think.

I don't actually care about Frogmore, I doubt very very much it is as much of a story as the DM with it's 'eviction' headlines likes to make out. I imagine H&M are totally accepting of this, and it just has to be worked out where they stay when or if they come over.

Roussette · 08/03/2023 08:40

Logicoutofthewindow · 08/03/2023 08:37

Harry has several hundred millions from Netflix, the book and numerous other selling his family down the river ploys he doesn't need the cottage.

Is Andrew a sex offender? 17 years old and consent? I don't know. There are numerous people who have affairs/relationships with people much younger - The Radfords - age 14 when pregnant to an 18 year old but that appears ok. Many pop stars and it appears ok. I don't know the back story but I thought 16 was the age of consent. Many young have sex at younger than that and some with older people?

A trafficked individual has no age of consent.

Trafficking laws unequivocally protect all, whatever the age.

IcedPurple · 08/03/2023 08:41

Harry has several hundred millions from Netflix, the book and numerous other selling his family down the river ploys he doesn't need the cottage.

I don't think he has anything like that sort of money but he certainly has a lot more cash than your average person who somehow manages to buy their own home without depending on their family at the age of almost 40.

purpledalmation · 08/03/2023 08:47

I suspect the coronation will be the last time one or both of them ever enter this country again and the lease runs until June, so they could stay there. I think the likelihood of them never coming to the UK (except for Charles eventual funeral) is tiny. Most people don't want them any more than they (apparently) don't want the UK. Win win for us. They can fade into obscurity once their close connection with the RF are cut and they've lied or distorted the truth and there are no further tales to tell.

Roussette · 08/03/2023 08:49

IcedPurple · 08/03/2023 08:41

Harry has several hundred millions from Netflix, the book and numerous other selling his family down the river ploys he doesn't need the cottage.

I don't think he has anything like that sort of money but he certainly has a lot more cash than your average person who somehow manages to buy their own home without depending on their family at the age of almost 40.

Do you think Andrew has enough dosh too? He isn't a working Royal either. Perhaps he can live with the ex in Soho in the townhouse she dubiously managed to buy despite being broke most of the time. Should Andrew not being depending on his family either?

Won't happen for either of them.

When the RF own or have use of 27 castles, estates etc in the UK, I'm sure they can find something for both Andrew, and indeed Harry.

tatalan · 08/03/2023 08:49

purpledalmation · 08/03/2023 08:47

I suspect the coronation will be the last time one or both of them ever enter this country again and the lease runs until June, so they could stay there. I think the likelihood of them never coming to the UK (except for Charles eventual funeral) is tiny. Most people don't want them any more than they (apparently) don't want the UK. Win win for us. They can fade into obscurity once their close connection with the RF are cut and they've lied or distorted the truth and there are no further tales to tell.

Harry will be back in the UK for the WellChild awards and other charity patronages. I hope he skips the coronation.

tatalan · 08/03/2023 08:50

purpledalmation · 08/03/2023 08:47

I suspect the coronation will be the last time one or both of them ever enter this country again and the lease runs until June, so they could stay there. I think the likelihood of them never coming to the UK (except for Charles eventual funeral) is tiny. Most people don't want them any more than they (apparently) don't want the UK. Win win for us. They can fade into obscurity once their close connection with the RF are cut and they've lied or distorted the truth and there are no further tales to tell.

Harry will be back in the UK for the WellChild awards and other charity patronages. I hope he skips the coronation.

Novella4 · 08/03/2023 08:50

@purpledalmation
You have absolutely no idea how many people 'want ' Harry back
All you have is what the tabloids tell you
Honestly he was criticising the rotten relationship between the media and the 'royals' and he has been proved right on every point

SkyandSurf · 08/03/2023 08:50

@Novella4

I do apply that to all the royals. I think the whole thing is a joke and should be abolished.

purpledalmation · 08/03/2023 08:52

IcedPurple · 08/03/2023 08:41

Harry has several hundred millions from Netflix, the book and numerous other selling his family down the river ploys he doesn't need the cottage.

I don't think he has anything like that sort of money but he certainly has a lot more cash than your average person who somehow manages to buy their own home without depending on their family at the age of almost 40.

Unfortunately he did depend on his family to make that fortune, some via inheritances and the rest by pimping out his 'truth' in the form of lies and distortions of the truth and exposing his family's private lives. Now he's promoting the use of hallucinogenic drugs to people with mental health problems, much to the horror of genuine psychiatrists.

Novella4 · 08/03/2023 08:53

@SkyandSurf
Sorry .
it easy to lose nuance in these threads and your post jumped out at me

Believe me I've seen worse nonsense from some royalist posters and I assumed you didn't know that all 'royals' live off the state .

Roussette · 08/03/2023 08:53

tatalan · 08/03/2023 08:50

Harry will be back in the UK for the WellChild awards and other charity patronages. I hope he skips the coronation.

That is my view too. He has attended WellChild for 15 years now, apart from a zoom presence during Covid. He is very well thought of by them. Really interesting to see the youtube vids of him at it, how he's changed, well... everyone does don't they!

I hope he skips the coronation too.

purpledalmation · 08/03/2023 08:53

Novella4 · 08/03/2023 08:50

@purpledalmation
You have absolutely no idea how many people 'want ' Harry back
All you have is what the tabloids tell you
Honestly he was criticising the rotten relationship between the media and the 'royals' and he has been proved right on every point

Just do one. I'm going on polls taken in this country and America to base a general consensus that we do not want either of them back here. Yours is simply an opinion. An opinion is not a fact.