Drama between Eugenie/Jack and William/Kate

[AmandaJonah]

I missed this last year. Apparently Eugenie and Jack had wanted to love into Adelaide Cottage as their main British residence (they also live part-time in Portugal for Jack's work). But William and Kate successfully claimed Adelaide Cottage instead as their fourth or fifth house?
This apparently led to tension between the two families. Instead Jack and Eugenie live in Nottingham Cottage which has two bedrooms. They already have one child and Eugenie is pregnant. I am guessing this is why they wanted a slightly bigger house.

www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a42035692/where-does-princess-eugenie-live-nottingham-cottage/

As head of the C of E, surely KC has heard of the parable of the prodigal son?

The point is that the prodigal son saw the error of his ways and returned contrite. Hence the killing of the fatted calf etc. Still waiting for Harry for realise and acknowledge that he could have made a few mis-steps along the way!

Ach there’s still time for reconciliation on both sides I reckon 😀

They of all people should be aware that life can be cut short all too soon.

Overall life in the RF would be a lot less toxic if they were relieved of their duties and we could all elect a head of state instead! 🙂

Exactly this. I strongly suspect that Charles would be very much hoping for a prodigal son!

Sometimes, people just need to let time pass before a reconciliation can happen.

However, if I was a betting woman, whilst Harry stays married - well I can't see a reconciliation happening.

Actions have consequences.

All Meghan's fault then!

I think William is the prodigal. They were on the outs for a long time but having children seem to have brought William to a maturity that adults understand that people make mistakes and no one's perfect. They look like they have a healthy relationship and it's clear his children have formed a good relationship with their grandfather.

I didn't say that. But I suspect that the RF would find it easier to deal with Harry without her. They love him, I doubt they love her.

It would be easier for them to blame her as she isn't family.

I don't think that is massively controversial. You see it in real life all the time. It may not be right but it is what happens.

And personally, I think what has happened is all down to Harry. Well and how he was brought up.

Yes, that's nice to see, isn't it? Enriching for everyone involved.
I did like seeing the pictures of Louis on Pa's lap at the Jubilee parade!

IF Charles ever wants to see his son and/or Meghan and his GC, he will have to provide them with somewhere suitable to stay.

There are plenty of apartments at St James, KP, Windsor etc that can be used for guests. It’s not like Harry and his family will be expected to book into the local premier inn if they come to family events.

Beatrice’s husband is seriously wealthy in his own right and is also the heir to an Italian title . They have a beautiful house in the Cotswolds and the small grace and favour at StJames palace. Rather like Pippa Middleton she has the wealth and status and none of the responsibility, well only if she chooses. Eugenie however has much more limited resources, her husband is upper middle class but not in the same league financially so hence the need for a house on the royal estate.

@MarshaMelrose
You have repeated the PR narrative re William and Camilla for those who want to swallow it

That William joined in with the 'Diana was paranoid ' line that C and C push along with their media friends, says all you need to know about William
He has not protected his mother's memory.

Both camps ( Willy and Camilla - I suspect Charlie is weak) brief against each other and will continue to do so

her husband is upper middle class but not in the same league financially so hence the need for a house on the royal estate.

But why? Eugenie and her DH are quite capable of getting a mortgage so really don't need a house on a royal estate. 'Want'... yes.
Not 'need'.
It's all animals at the trough isn't it.
I am sure Eugenie's husband earns a good wodge at his property development job in Portugal. He comes from a titled family who have a coat of arms, his father went to Eton etc. They won't be short of a bob or two most likely. We talk like these people are skint with a bad credit record!

I agree, @Roussette . Eugenie and Jack are very wealthy, very well connected individuals. They could afford a very high spec home anywhere. They choose not to. They choose to remain lease holders on a Royal estate. For status reasons, I would suggest.

Yes. If it were me, I would want to have a totally clean record, to be independent because our family could afford it, to not be accused of anything because of my connection with the RF and thereby not see any horrible media about me and my family.
I don't understand why minor Royals don't think like this.

But it isn't me, and there is an element of trading on the royal connection for every one of them. I suppose there is an elevated sense of entitlement there

That’s how I would think too @Roussette

Envy, entitlement, status all the usual reasons I suspect. Also titles ( very distant in his case) do not equal money, his father was a chartered accountant and although privately educated he did not grow up in an huge pile or anything, affluent but not rich, certainly by the standards of her sisters husband. His own employment status is somewhat chequered.

I wonder if Eugenie buys more into the “blood princesses” line touted by their father than her sister does.

Andrew has always been utterly insistent that the two girls need full time security.

Although, interestingly, it’s Beatrice that has kept her child far more hidden from the media so far than her sister.

You know what poshos are like, @Roussette . Middle-class people (me!) would rather die than free-load, but ime posh people spend their whole time trading on connections. They never pay for a holiday, they’re always “staying with friends”. They never go through a job application process, someone always “finds” them something.

Someone like the Brooksbank fellow seems blandly pleasant enough but is the hanger-on in the ski chalet with the indefinable “drinks PR” job.

I think you're right, @YetMoreNewBeginnings - there's definitely been a brand York, which Sarah Ferguson is still part of. I have read that Eugenie has lobbied Charles and William for her father to have some sort of royal role. I think the status and titles are still very important to them.

@YetMoreNewBeginnings I agree. I posted upthread that Eugenie seems a little bit pushy and not publicity shy.

I think Charles is quite right that there should only be a core crew. There is no need for a cast of thousands waving from the Buck Palace balcony; it will collapse (good news for the republicans!).

William understands his mother better than random strangers on the internet. He was 15 when his dm died and was exposed to quite a lot when she was alive.
What has H done to respect his dm’s memory? The 8 hour cream/frozen todger anecdote is just disgusting. I’d be livid if I was William.

It must be quite a bizarre situation to be in.

If your father (and presumably mother) is telling you that you’re a target, you need security, and there was a tacit agreement by your grandmother because the security was/is paid for privately after polite protection was removed…

Then you’ve your uncle saying it’s absolutely fine and not needed, plus you see your Aunt Anne, Uncle Edward and Aunt Sophie only needing security when on official visits, but living in secure royal estates.

When you think about it logically, it’s a very bizarre way to live.

Even getting a job must be weird. A balance between “No, I’m just a normal person so I just want a normal job and be treated normally” and “But my Granny is the Queen so I’m expected to participate in these annual events…”

Totally agree. And I have known people like this, the sense of entitlement is something to behold.
It is all about connections. Those made at private school, University, early jobs, moving in the right circles.

I remember before Beatrice was married and she had those 15 holidays in one year, Aspen, St Barts, Verbier.... it was all friends, friends of friends and connections. Yachts, ski chalets, villas etc.

I'm deluded thinking they wouldn't grab a royal property given the chance!

I think we'll see less of these minor royals, they certainly won't be on the balcony any more. I think the late Queen liked to include all the grandchildren and cousins, but it's different now.