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Camilla will officially be known as the Queen

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AmandaJonah · 26/02/2023 16:51

She clearly is already the Queen. But officially after the Coronation she will be known as the Queen, not the Queen Consort.

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 17:32

Do people still actually look to the royal family for their role models? how quaint.

PillBoxes · 26/02/2023 17:32

Hope Camilla R's regal bunions last the day of the CrownNation.

She is wily. But I am sure she would rather be anywhere else than under a gold canopy getting oil on her head. The price some people pay....

Plitvice · 26/02/2023 17:38

Families will be watching her being publicly elevated and in quite a few households up and down the country, somebody will spontaneously come out with the obvious thing people have (and always will) associate with Camilla. This will either validate her behaviour or awaken them to the hypocrisy - not good for the RF in both cases.

Onnabugeisha · 26/02/2023 17:43

Plitvice · 26/02/2023 17:29

She is a bad role model. It communicates to society that deceit and adultery pays as it leads to power, wealth and even respect.
I know that many people commit adultery these days (even in my own family) so the king is a suitable match for his subjects but couldn't they at least try to break the cycle?

I think you have adultery confused with golddigging.

ancientgran · 26/02/2023 17:48

Plitvice · 26/02/2023 17:29

She is a bad role model. It communicates to society that deceit and adultery pays as it leads to power, wealth and even respect.
I know that many people commit adultery these days (even in my own family) so the king is a suitable match for his subjects but couldn't they at least try to break the cycle?

Or it shows the power of redemption and forgiveness. We've all sinned, even you.

namechanged221 · 26/02/2023 17:48

LightDrizzle · 26/02/2023 17:06

Well yes. Like all the wives of Kings before her.

I imagine you could count British monarchs who have been faithful within marriage on the fingers of one hand. Why should their spouses be held to a higher standard and be demonised?

Saint Diana herself relentlessly pursued and shagged married men. They are all human. We don’t know any of them.

Apart from the wives of kings before we're not divorcees, as he is head of church this matters.

I think it was agreed she would be known as princess consort.

Then the Queen agreed (just before her death, sadly) that she could be known as Queen consort. I wonder how that she latex out?

Now they're taking the word consort out.

So she is the Queen, with a coronation, holy oil, a crown. Not what was originally planned or agreed.

Sorry but we have been played.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 17:50

It communicates to society that deceit and adultery pays as it leads to power, wealth and even respect

I'm pretty certain that 'society' cottoned on to that long before Camilla was born.

Onnabugeisha · 26/02/2023 17:51

namechanged221 · 26/02/2023 17:48

Apart from the wives of kings before we're not divorcees, as he is head of church this matters.

I think it was agreed she would be known as princess consort.

Then the Queen agreed (just before her death, sadly) that she could be known as Queen consort. I wonder how that she latex out?

Now they're taking the word consort out.

So she is the Queen, with a coronation, holy oil, a crown. Not what was originally planned or agreed.

Sorry but we have been played.

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What are you going on about? It’s standard for the coronation to include a Queen consort being coronated as well.

Prince Phillip was excluded because of sexism. The way it went for Queen Elizabeth II wasn’t the norm.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 17:54

So she is the Queen, with a coronation, holy oil, a crown. Not what was originally planned or agreed

Whether she's called queen or queen consort, she still gets the anointing and a coronation - just all like the other queens who were the wives of kings. I have no idea why people are getting their knickers in such a twist over her title.

Mumskisail · 26/02/2023 17:54

Camilla is Wueen because she's the wife of the king and living a life of service. She's clearly a huge support to him. It's very sad to read the nasty comments and seems unnecessary.

LadyMary50 · 26/02/2023 17:56

namechanged221 · 26/02/2023 17:48

Apart from the wives of kings before we're not divorcees, as he is head of church this matters.

I think it was agreed she would be known as princess consort.

Then the Queen agreed (just before her death, sadly) that she could be known as Queen consort. I wonder how that she latex out?

Now they're taking the word consort out.

So she is the Queen, with a coronation, holy oil, a crown. Not what was originally planned or agreed.

Sorry but we have been played.

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Frankly I couldn’t care less,the Royal Family are as far distant from me as the sun.I can’t stand all these pious comments though😒

Onnabugeisha · 26/02/2023 17:56

Mumskisail · 26/02/2023 17:54

Camilla is Wueen because she's the wife of the king and living a life of service. She's clearly a huge support to him. It's very sad to read the nasty comments and seems unnecessary.

I agree completely.

Plitvice · 26/02/2023 17:56

Despite being part of tradition, the holy oil sounds pervy to me simply because it's those two!

AllOfThemWitches · 26/02/2023 17:57

This is an outrage

Nah I don't care really, good for her

DappledThings · 26/02/2023 17:59

How are people still fixating on this? She's already the Queen. She is often referred to as Queen Consort but that's just one usage of her title. Calling her Queen Camilla now, or Queen Consort now or Queen Consort after her coronation are all correct and acceptable options.

Wives of Kings are always Queens. Hisbands of Queens are not Kings because a King outranks a Queen and the monarch can't be outranked. Hence Prince Albert, Prince Philip but Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra etc.

This isn't news!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 17:59

Sorry but we have been played

You might have been, it was obvious that when Charles became king she'd be queen because she's his wife and the wife of the king is the queen consort. Or queen for short.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 18:00

DappledThings · 26/02/2023 17:59

How are people still fixating on this? She's already the Queen. She is often referred to as Queen Consort but that's just one usage of her title. Calling her Queen Camilla now, or Queen Consort now or Queen Consort after her coronation are all correct and acceptable options.

Wives of Kings are always Queens. Hisbands of Queens are not Kings because a King outranks a Queen and the monarch can't be outranked. Hence Prince Albert, Prince Philip but Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra etc.

This isn't news!

It's baffling how people don't get this. I must have posted variations on what you've said above several times, and yet here we are.....

Starseeed · 26/02/2023 18:00

AmandaJonah · 26/02/2023 17:07

She is an adulteress. But if Charles can be King and be an adulterer, why she should she not be Queen?

I cannot understand why people get so get up about this. You do know the Church of England was created so the King of England could divorce his wife, right?

IntentionalError · 26/02/2023 18:02

I have no idea why anyone would even consider this an issue. We have had Kings for centuries, and their wives have been Queens. It really is entirely unremarkable, and someone would have to be spectacularly historically ignorant to need this explaining to them.

DappledThings · 26/02/2023 18:03

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 18:00

It's baffling how people don't get this. I must have posted variations on what you've said above several times, and yet here we are.....

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Me too, I'll see you on the next inane thread about this too I hope!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 18:04

Starseeed · 26/02/2023 18:00

I cannot understand why people get so get up about this. You do know the Church of England was created so the King of England could divorce his wife, right?

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Adulteress 😂How sweetly Victorian that sounds.

Divorced his first wife so he could marry his second then when he was tired of her had her executed for adultery while at the same time claiming not to have been really married to her so the daughter he married her for was declared illegitimate.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/02/2023 18:07

someone would have to be spectacularly historically ignorant to need this explaining to them

There's one hell of a lot of them out there, judging by the numbers of threads about this since last September. I mean, it's not even specialised knowledge. King's wife = queen/queen consort.

Logicoutofthewindow · 26/02/2023 18:11

All these holier than thou types on here. Judgemental and no idea what she is really like.

Why does it bother you so much?

MrsFinkelstein · 26/02/2023 18:13

@namechanged221

Eleanor of Aquitaine was married to Louis VII before marrying Henry II

She was effectively divorced from Louis before marrying Henry. They called it an annulment but she bore Louis 2 children during their marriage.

PerfectYear321 · 26/02/2023 18:13

It's all bullshit anyway

Abolish the monarchy