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Anti Charles protests on foodbank visit

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OutofEverything · 17/02/2023 13:51

Protests greeted Charles latest visit to a foodbank at Milton Keynes. At least he wasn't egged this time.

Anti Charles protests on foodbank visit
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HedwigIsMyDemon · 17/02/2023 13:55

Good to see legal protests are still permitted - well done to them!

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MarshaMelrose · 17/02/2023 14:34

It was a handful of people organised by the Republic organisation. It's ironic that they did it at a foodbank when Charles has given money to support them and the recipients. I wonder how much Republic has given?
Apparently they were drowned out by people chanting God Save the King.
Is this going to be a thing now? How tedious.

purpledalmation · 17/02/2023 15:07

Just a handful of people demonstrating as they are allowed to do. I would have loved KC to have gone over to them and thanked them for attending. Charm always looks better than displeasure. As it was he did a good job of carrying on regardless.

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OutofEverything · 17/02/2023 15:41

:@MarshaMelrose we have no idea how much he gave. His charity gave £1 million to foodbanks and that included a personal donation. But Charles could have given £20 or £20,000. No one knows.

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MarshaMelrose · 17/02/2023 15:47

The charity head said his personal donation was a substantial amount. That's not going to be 20 quid, is it? 🙄

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OutofEverything · 17/02/2023 15:55

That was said about another donation that was later revealed to be £25.
I do not see why he would not just say how much if it really was substantial. I suspect instead another repeat of a small donation.

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MarshaMelrose · 17/02/2023 16:05

He's not going to arrange a £1,000,000 start up fund and pop in £25, even if it gives you pleasure to think that.
Clearly he's not going to reveal the exact amount because the press would start to compare and wind everyone up.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/02/2023 16:07

Well TBF they mainly just stood with their placards, didn't chuck things (unlike some) and didn't disrupt the visit except for some ugly boos. As a republican myself that doesn't sound like a major problem, though I appreciate monarchists will dislike it and that's fair enough

At least this lot weren't arrested, which for me was going way too far providing protests are peaceful, but as with all the RF I'll hold the admiration for his "personal" donation unless it's proved - especially when this one's finances are notoriously opaque and there have already been numerous issues over dubious transactions

Comedycook · 17/02/2023 16:11

Apparently they were drowned out by people chanting God Save the King

How pathetic.... forelock tuggers.

jeffgoldblum · 17/02/2023 16:16

I'm not a monarchist or republican, more middle of the road , however insulting either side doesn't forward either side's argument .
@Puzzledandpissedoff posts are always reasonable and don't insult monarchists, maybe take a note and not refer to people as forelock tuggers, just because they have a different opinion to you.

daretodenim · 17/02/2023 16:16

purpledalmation · 17/02/2023 15:07

Just a handful of people demonstrating as they are allowed to do. I would have loved KC to have gone over to them and thanked them for attending. Charm always looks better than displeasure. As it was he did a good job of carrying on regardless.

This.

I'm sure there are better places they could have protested. And in that location better things to have protested about! I hope they felt good about protesting a donor visiting a food bank. Hopefully they also reached into their pockets and made a donation - each.

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OutofEverything · 17/02/2023 16:18

@MarshaMelrose You do not know that. You are making assumptions.
I am assuming if it was large, the amount would have been disclosed.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/02/2023 16:22

You're very kind, @jeffgoldblum, but then I try not to insult anyone, monarchists or whatever else
We're all entitled to our individual views and there seems little point in causing angst and resentment

Serenster · 17/02/2023 16:24

Firstly, it is good to see people freely exercising their democratic right to protest. I, like many other posters, have been unimpressed to see the police removing people from royal engagements just for standing around with a blank sheet of paper.

Secondly, this was a pre-organised protest by Republic. If you look at their twitter account, you will see them announcing its and calling for people to come and join them several days in advance. About 20 showed up. So while, as ever, there are people in the UK who dislike the monarchy (and who are perfectly free to hold that opinion!), I don’t see the protest as showing that Republic has a great deal of popular support. Charles quite happily walked over to greet the people in the same section of the crowd as the protestors, so I suspect he is also not bothered by people exercising their right to protest.

(Also, the protest wasn’t outside his visit to the food bank, which was later in the day. It was at his first stop of the day, at a multi-denominational church, to attend a celebratory reception with community leaders from Milton Keynes to mark it being granted city status).

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OutofEverything · 17/02/2023 16:34

@Serenster How many people read their website? I was not aware of this preorganised protest. The same I suspect as virtually everyone.

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jeffgoldblum · 17/02/2023 16:36

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/02/2023 16:22

You're very kind, @jeffgoldblum, but then I try not to insult anyone, monarchists or whatever else
We're all entitled to our individual views and there seems little point in causing angst and resentment

Yes , I agree, people are entitled to their own opinions , I may disagree but that doesn't entitle me to make insulting comments and I will add that @MarshaMelrose also doesn't insult other posters even though she comes from a different view , neither of you result to name calling.
I'm not being overly complimentary but because I read more than post I see regular posters and recognise their names and the majority of their posts , I'm just being factual.

MarshaMelrose · 17/02/2023 17:50

OutofEverything · 17/02/2023 16:18

@MarshaMelrose You do not know that. You are making assumptions.
I am assuming if it was large, the amount would have been disclosed.

But why, though? Does he regularly announce the amounts of his personal donations? If so, I've missed that. As I said previously, if he announced giving different amounts to different causes, there'd be inevitable friction as the press would make out he thought some causes more worthy than others. Wiser to just keep shtum.
I know the Queen donated to causes and didn't reveal the amounts either. (My dad was of the same mind. Although, in his case, it probably was just twenty quid. 😄 )

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/02/2023 18:42

if he announced giving different amounts to different causes, there'd be inevitable friction as the press would make out he thought some causes more worthy than others. Wiser to just keep shtum

Absolutely, Marsha. My own interest is in where it came from rather than how much it was, but as you rightly say, mentioning any amount would just be a recipe for trouble

On another tack, did anyone else notice how hemmed in he was by security guys again? Understandable if protests were expected of course, but hard not to muse that it was hardly ever necessary with his late mum

upinaballoon · 17/02/2023 19:14

I thought we were supposed 'to do good by stealth'. If you're digging someone out of rubble it's hard to do it in a way that no-one will notice, but as far as I know, people who give donations to charities and good causes are to do it privately in the corner, not making a great loud show about it. The late Queen gave to the disasters just like we might, and most likely she gave more than I would have sent and we should all shut it and sign the cheques, or make the visit and not make a megashow. What is this alleged £25? The same £25 that William and Kate were alleged to have given to the foodbank which they visited?

Coxspurplepippin · 17/02/2023 19:28

Comedycook · 17/02/2023 16:11

Apparently they were drowned out by people chanting God Save the King

How pathetic.... forelock tuggers.

If you're a republican hoping for a vote at some point as to whether the UK remains a constitutional monarchy or becomes a republic, you may want to speak about those who favour a monarchy with a little more courtesy. You won't win anyone over by insulting them. see also Brexit.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 17/02/2023 19:37

OutofEverything · 17/02/2023 16:34

@Serenster How many people read their website? I was not aware of this preorganised protest. The same I suspect as virtually everyone.

Well if you were that bothered about the UK becoming a Republic you would go out of your way to educate yourself on how to make it happen. There appears to be a few staunch republicans on here ( see the silly forelock tuggers comment) but how many posters actually do anything about it but complain on here? I may not agree with the protesters stance but kudos to them for making a stand on what they believe in and doing it peacefully.

Comedycook · 17/02/2023 19:46

@Coxspurplepippin I'm not a republican or a monarchist. I'm pretty neutral. I genuinely find it pathetic when people shout "god save the king" to drown out protests. It's sycophantic at best

LadyVictoriaSponge · 17/02/2023 20:04

Comedycook · 17/02/2023 19:46

@Coxspurplepippin I'm not a republican or a monarchist. I'm pretty neutral. I genuinely find it pathetic when people shout "god save the king" to drown out protests. It's sycophantic at best

I don’t see it as pathetic, just different sides of the same coin 🤷🏻‍♀️

myrtleWilson · 17/02/2023 20:10

upinaballoon · 17/02/2023 19:14

I thought we were supposed 'to do good by stealth'. If you're digging someone out of rubble it's hard to do it in a way that no-one will notice, but as far as I know, people who give donations to charities and good causes are to do it privately in the corner, not making a great loud show about it. The late Queen gave to the disasters just like we might, and most likely she gave more than I would have sent and we should all shut it and sign the cheques, or make the visit and not make a megashow. What is this alleged £25? The same £25 that William and Kate were alleged to have given to the foodbank which they visited?

Interesting to see the genesis of a Mumsnet myth being created here.

On 31/01/23 at 10:59 on the Charity Engagement thread this was posted
"Wasn't there a royal who said to the media they had made a donation to charity and it ended up being £25" (no link or citation)

Later that same day at 15:04 on the Kate launches campaign thread this was posted "One of these donations was later to be revealed to be for £25" - again no link.

I saw another post but can't find it via AS (perhaps withdrawn/deleted) that said along lines of "royal gave a donation but it was £25 or £20 (deflation a thing for royal donation stories)

Today we have the "That was said about another donation that was later revealed to be £25" - no link

But then we have significant development in the origin story of the Royal Donation with the the assertion that not only was the £25 donation by a specific Royal couple (previously unidentified) but narrowed down to a specific visit...