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Anti Charles protests on foodbank visit

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OutofEverything · 17/02/2023 13:51

Protests greeted Charles latest visit to a foodbank at Milton Keynes. At least he wasn't egged this time.

Anti Charles protests on foodbank visit
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OutofEverything · 18/02/2023 16:46

Roussette · 18/02/2023 16:43

I am amazed you are defending Andrew and Mountbatten

I'm not amazed. I'm depressed

I can understand that.
Mountbatten was clearly a prolific paedophile. There is loads of evidence. And this is supposed to be partly why the IRA killed him.
Andrew clearly lied in his TV interview over and over again. So the allegations against him are probably true.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/02/2023 16:50

Fawcett the Fence has been removed THREE times now
He'll be back

Right idea but possibly wrong tense, Roussette?
Considering Charles reportedly said that "he can manage without just about anyone except Michael" and is known to expect to have his own way, I find it very hard to believe Fawcett's not still involved - doubly so considering the stories he could probably tell if "disappointed" in any way

Mountbatten’s preference for boys, as opposed to men, was confirmed by his driver during the war, Norman Nield

It was confirmed by his valet Bill Evans too, OutofEverything; I knew him personally

ChungusBoi · 18/02/2023 16:56

Anyone with any decency would be ashamed that their subjects need food banks at all. They absolutely disgust me. Parasitic royals.

Roussette · 18/02/2023 16:56

Yep Puzzled he's probably flying under the radar...fixing incognito

OutofEverything · 18/02/2023 16:56

@Puzzledandpissedoff Thanks for that.
It is generally accepted that Mountbatten was an active paedophile by almost everyone except the most ardent royal defenders.

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Roussette · 18/02/2023 16:59

OutofEverything · 18/02/2023 16:56

@Puzzledandpissedoff Thanks for that.
It is generally accepted that Mountbatten was an active paedophile by almost everyone except the most ardent royal defenders.

The thing is... Mountbatten had the luxury of no or little media reporting on him, a very different time, when all royals and those connected with them were revered without question.
If it's come to light all these decades later it must've been very bad.

derxa · 18/02/2023 17:00

OutofEverything · 18/02/2023 16:46

I can understand that.
Mountbatten was clearly a prolific paedophile. There is loads of evidence. And this is supposed to be partly why the IRA killed him.
Andrew clearly lied in his TV interview over and over again. So the allegations against him are probably true.

You're defending murders by the IRA? Bloody hell. It wasn't just Mountbatten who was killed that day

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 17:02

Roussette · 18/02/2023 16:40

Blimey!

Are you honestly honestly saying you would be incapable of moving an inkwell 2 inches and you'd sack someone for that? Really?
What about being nice and pleasant to staff who run around after you, doing all but wiping your arse, who probably spend 24/7 trying to make sure everything is right for you so you don't have to lift a finger to do anything?

Well done on your robust defence of LM and PA. I've posted on this ad nauseum. Not sure what to say anymore 😳

They don't wipe his arse and they dont put toothpaste on his toothbrush!

I have mo problem with peoolecsaying they dont like someone but PA has been convicted of nothing. And apart from some FBI files based on g

HedwigIsMyDemon · 18/02/2023 17:02

@derxa “any money saved would disappear into a black hole”. I love it when people make these ridiculous statements with no evidence or backing whatsoever 🙄. It would go to the Treasury who, with a decent government, can spend it on public services. This stuff isn’t rocket science 🙄.

Roussette · 18/02/2023 17:03

derxa · 18/02/2023 17:00

You're defending murders by the IRA? Bloody hell. It wasn't just Mountbatten who was killed that day

I don't think there's defending of that. A truly awful crime.
I would've preferred a no cover up justice system taking him to account. But being who he was, it would not have happened.
I think - from what I've read over the years - he was a deeply unpleasant man.

HedwigIsMyDemon · 18/02/2023 17:04

@derxa do you generally struggle with comprehension? Where is @OutofEverything defending the murders by the IRA?? 😬

Roussette · 18/02/2023 17:06

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 17:02

They don't wipe his arse and they dont put toothpaste on his toothbrush!

I have mo problem with peoolecsaying they dont like someone but PA has been convicted of nothing. And apart from some FBI files based on g

That's why I said... "All but wipe his arse".
And I've never had a problem with the toothpaste myth, I think he'd broken his arm or something at the time.

But if you don't think every whim, every demand, every fancy..is not catered for by his aides, you are deluded.

3 boiled eggs sir? Choose yer fave !

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 17:10

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 17:02

They don't wipe his arse and they dont put toothpaste on his toothbrush!

I have mo problem with peoolecsaying they dont like someone but PA has been convicted of nothing. And apart from some FBI files based on g

Ugh. I hit post by accident.

I have no problem with people saying they don't like someone but I believe people should be at least charged before they are called offenders. Nothing to do with them being royal. A footballer, Mason Greenwood, just got charges dropped because of new evidence. I would equally stand up for him if people called him a rapist.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/02/2023 17:13

Mountbatten had the luxury of no or little media reporting on him, a very different time, when all royals and those connected with them were revered without question

Exactly, Roussette, and for all their own use of it these days I often think just how much they must hate social media and 24/7 news

TBF there are times I hate it too - like many tools it can be used for good or ill - but then I don't have an unmerited position to defend

derxa · 18/02/2023 17:15

Roussette · 18/02/2023 17:03

I don't think there's defending of that. A truly awful crime.
I would've preferred a no cover up justice system taking him to account. But being who he was, it would not have happened.
I think - from what I've read over the years - he was a deeply unpleasant man.

We don't condone murder in this country no matter how unpleasant the person is.

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 17:16

OutofEverything · 18/02/2023 16:46

I can understand that.
Mountbatten was clearly a prolific paedophile. There is loads of evidence. And this is supposed to be partly why the IRA killed him.
Andrew clearly lied in his TV interview over and over again. So the allegations against him are probably true.

If there's something much evidence, could you link some if it? Not the old FBI files based on gossip about his homosexuality. And really? The IRA were debating whether it would be a great coup to kill a relation of the RF and him being a paedophile tipped the balance. Tsk.

Probably doesn't mean definitely. That's why we have court systems weigh up evidence and not social media.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/02/2023 17:19

I believe people should be at least charged before they are called offenders

Agree with this too, Marsha; in any case it's hardly necessary to insist he's an offender, since for many his already known repulsive behaviour and befriending of a known paedophile is enough

Then again at least he's only befriended/supported one paedophile as far as we know, unlike his older brother who's done it with several

Seems to be something of a family habit Hmm

Roussette · 18/02/2023 17:20

derxa · 18/02/2023 17:15

We don't condone murder in this country no matter how unpleasant the person is.

I don't condone murder either, and I am not sure why you have got that from my post

Roussette · 18/02/2023 17:22

That's why we have court systems weigh up evidence and not social media.

That doesn't work too well with members of the RF.

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 18:05

OutofEverything · 18/02/2023 16:40

@MarshaMelrose I am amazed you are defending Andrew and Mountbatten.
By the way the FBI had files saying that Mountbatten was a paedophile. To pretend this is about one man's allegations is extremely disingenuous.

FBI dossier on Mountbatten revealed that the Americans had deep reservations and distaste for his Lordship. The file states that both he and his wife Edwina were “persons of extremely low morals” and that Mountbatten was a paedophile with “a perversion for young boys.”

In the dossier Baroness Decies stated that Mountbatten was “known to be a homosexual with a perversion for young boys” and was “an unfit man to direct any sort of military operations because of this condition. She stated further that his wife, Lady Mountbatten, was considered equally erratic.” EE Conroy, head of the New York FBI field office, added in the file that she “appears to have no special motive in making the above statements.” The comments from the Baroness show that the behaviour of the Mountbattens was an open secret within elite British circles for some considerable time.

Mountbatten’s preference for boys, as opposed to men, was confirmed by his driver during the war, Norman Nield. Speaking with New Zealand truth, Nield admitted that he transported young boys aged 8 to 12 to his commander and was paid to keep quiet.

Historian Andrew Lownie, whose book, The Mountbattens: Their Lives & Loves exposed much of the scandal, conducted an interview with Anthony Daly who was a sex worker for London’s rich and famous during the 1970s. Daly revealed that “Mountbatten had something of a fetish for uniforms — handsome young men in military uniforms (with high boots) and beautiful boys in school uniform.”

The FBI file are just gossip. Not intelligence.

The files were put together in 1944. Homosexuality was illegal and homosexuals were held in disdain. Nowhere in the dossier does it say he was a paedophile, that's what Lownie surmised they are saying. We have no idea what age "young boys" refers to. But let's say it is actually children, there's no substantiation of anything. The only "evidence" was what one person said. Elizabeth de la Peor Beresford. It's just gossip from one person.

Anthony Daly. He doesn't know anything first hand. He says he "was told" so more unsubstantiated gossip.

I'd never heard of Norman Nield. I can't find his interview with the New Zealand Herald. But I agree, what he says carries weight for me. However Lowndes has said that the FBI files called LM a paedophile and they didn't, so I know that he takes licence to twist things. However, I feel sure NN must have said similar to what has been reported.

Kincorra House. That has been investigated and LM was held not responsible. Of course, it's perfectly possible it was a cover up by the powers that be. It's a dreadful period and I hope Arthur Smyth gets resolution and justice. As far as I know he's the only person to have made an allegation based on a recent realisation. I wish him the best.

LM has openly stated that he and his wife were promiscuous. But there's not a pile of evidence that he was a paedophile - just Norman Nields. So I can't say if he was not. I shall watch the court case and see the evidence there.

Roussette · 18/02/2023 18:07

Dear oh dear...

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 18:10

Roussette · 18/02/2023 17:06

That's why I said... "All but wipe his arse".
And I've never had a problem with the toothpaste myth, I think he'd broken his arm or something at the time.

But if you don't think every whim, every demand, every fancy..is not catered for by his aides, you are deluded.

3 boiled eggs sir? Choose yer fave !

Well if I paid a chef, I'd want them to cook me what I wanted, too. What's wrong with that?
I have a cleaner and each week I tell her what I'd like her to clean. 😱

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 18:14

Roussette · 18/02/2023 17:22

That's why we have court systems weigh up evidence and not social media.

That doesn't work too well with members of the RF.

I don't think the Americans care that PA is a member of the RF. Otherwise they'd have found a way to foil VG's court case.
Where are the FBI charges? Against anyone really.

Roussette · 18/02/2023 18:32

MarshaMelrose · 18/02/2023 18:10

Well if I paid a chef, I'd want them to cook me what I wanted, too. What's wrong with that?
I have a cleaner and each week I tell her what I'd like her to clean. 😱

Yeah 3 eggs!

P.s. HE doesn't pay for the chef

Serenster · 18/02/2023 18:39

OutofEverything · 18/02/2023 16:56

@Puzzledandpissedoff Thanks for that.
It is generally accepted that Mountbatten was an active paedophile by almost everyone except the most ardent royal defenders.

Yeah, everyone said that about Cliff Richard too when his name came up in Operation Yewtree and we all know how that turned out. It’s why we have rigour around evidence and proof in courts of law (important safeguards for all of us from trial by gossip and social media).

Also, Buckingham Palace went to the trouble of denying the boiled eggs story after it was published by Jeremy Paxman. Amusingly, that must have been one silly rumour too far for Prince Charles. 🤣

In 2012, the Prince of Wales website FAQ section said: “Does The Prince of Wales have seven boiled eggs cooked for his breakfast but only eat one, as claimed in Jeremy Paxman’s book On Monarchy?

“No, he doesn’t and never has done, at breakfast or any other time.”

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