Markle v Markle

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Has anyone posted about this hearing to dismiss yesterday?

Ellie Hall of Buzzfeed was tweeting. twitter.com/ellievhall/status/1625944386382008346

My opinion? Samantha is an ass who purposely humiliated Meghan, every chance she got. I hope they throw out the case and reprimand Samantha+ her attorney for being grifters and wasting the court's time.

I think they will throw it out. I dont see she has a case. But from a nosy point of view, I'd love it to go ahead. Imagine the documents we'd see through the discover process. The stuff we discovered through the Depp/Heard trial that wasn't even allowed in evidence...!

I think SM would do anything to draw a parallel between herself and MM.

The nosy part of me agrees with you, but no way it's a winner.

Much as I dislike H&M, Samantha seems a whole lot worse and I think she's stretching here.
It won't go anywhere. Meghan's lawyers don't come cheap and they will get her out of it.

American civil law seems a different kettle of fish to UK law, see Depp v Heard. Under UK rulings it wouldn't get a look in but not so sure in America??
I can't see the point except anger and rejection (and sheer grasping nastiness). How can describing yourself as an only child hurt and humiliate an older step sibling. She didn't have biological siblings from her mother and father. It all seems a bit of a circus.

I confess though, I would love all those half truths and lies to be examined forensically, but that won't happen.

Once again, the solicitors will be the winner in this case.

Meghan did instruct Jason Knauf some nasty things about her children for the book finding freedom so I can see Sam being annoyed about that. Not sure about it turning into a court case though

It is my opinion, that Samantha was the catalyst that caused problems between Meghan and Thomas. I have no proof, but I could see it happening. Samantha is... something else really. I could put words to it but wont.

Here is what surprised me in the case, especially in American law. Samantha sued for $75,000. How is it that her claims of ruin will be made whole by a mere $75,000. Especially since she is staring that her career was ruined by Meghan. Wouldn't that be worth more than $75,000?

This suit was filed, in my opinion again, to force a settlement from H & M. It happens all the time in the US because it is actually cheaper to settle, even if the sued party is not guilty.

For Samantha, a settlement of $75,000 would cause the public at large to assume that H & M are guilty. (see Andrew for example). If that happens, that is a win for Samantha because the public thinks she is guilty of the charges. If they fight it, it opens up a ton of privacy issues for H & M. It is literally a lose-lose situation for H & M.

Samantha Markle is toxic at best and she is the only person responsible for her life problems.

oops typo stating, not staring

They're all awful! MM - surprised she has any pants left she lies so much, but SM and dad are dreadful also. They all need to crawl back under a suitable rock

To all intents and purposes, Meghan did grow up an only child. Samantha and Tom Jr were so much older than her and (I think?) had left home by the time Meghan was old enough to know.
That is one Oprah assertion I don't actually have an issue with.

I had a much older half sibling who wasn't at home. I never would describe myself as an only child, it's incredibly disrespectful

I have a full sibling that is a decade younger than I am. She grew up as an only child, but is not an only child. She will say she grew up as an only child, so will I. Because she essentially did.

There is a difference between growing up as an only child and being an only child.

One describes a set of circumstances that affects the child into adulthood, the other is a matter of birth.

You can Google how growing up as an only child affects those children when they become adults.

Samantha is 17 years older then Meghan. That is an entire generation older in some cases.

You can say you grew up when your siblings had left home. It is very self focused and rude to describe yourself as an only child.

The siblings would have still visited and whether Meghan likes it or not, she still has the same father as them. Though obviously she doesn't like that.

I am going to disagree with you. You may call it that, but that does not mean everyone has to. And vice versa.

Nothing self centered or rude to say you grew up as an only child.

I had a much older half sibling who wasn't at home. I never would describe myself as an only child, it's incredibly disrespectful

Did Meghan actually say she was an only child? I thought she said she grew up as an only child. Which is the truth if her older-half siblings had left home by then and rarely visited. Can you not see the difference?

I really struggle to understand Samantha’s motivations and skimming today’s transcript is not at all making it clearer what she gains out of this.

This suit was filed, in my opinion again, to force a settlement from H & M. It happens all the time in the US because it is actually cheaper to settle, even if the sued party is not guilty

True

But of course Brits don't see it like this (Prince Andrew)

And even though US is their chief focus now, they know they overlook the British angle at their peril

I just cannot see how it gets there but if it does then the rest of the stuff Samantha legal team will say is fair game for credibility reasons. I did have an only child up bringing, my relationship with my siblings was much more Aunt and Uncles. I have no memory of living with them age difference was 18,17,14 they had all left home by the time I was 3. Two joined the forces and one moved away. Even now as middle aged adults I am still treated as the child of the group and there relationship is different with each other. I grew up an only child.

She just seems like the typical abusive family member to me. (Although in this case more like a distant cousin than a FOO member.) She's finding ways to stay connected, keep the fight going and will not want be ignored.

I am glad you brought this up to be honest. Because I keep thinking do they need to be cautious of the British angle?

From where I sit in the US, no. they will be fine here. But Harry is still a Prince of the UK so maybe he does?

It is an interesting conversation at any rate.

I think one of the tabloid mags could be backing Samantha on this. If it goes to court they will probably have so much more to write about. The stories about Meghan have died off - the tabloids are really just rehashing opinions and old stories atm. Once the circus around Harry’s book has died off, the tabloids will be looking to Meghan for more crap. If they don’t get it, they have proven quite capable of turning on Kate (and to a lesser extent William).

We're getting into semantics a bit here but it would have really hurt my sibling if I'd described myself as an only child, that would be like I was trying to take precedence and deny their existence.

I don't quite understand Sam's case though, I guess we'll have to see if it's thrown out or not.

The case is an utter joke, even Samantha's lawyers concede it isn't the strongest, claiming discovery was required to build their case. How are you suing for defamation but paraphrasing the defendant's words? glad the Judge called them out on that.

And that's ,you ,you don't speak for everyone🙄
she was the only child of her mother and the third child of her father.,by all accounts she barely knew her older half siblings ,just because YOU wouldn't say you grew up.as an only child ,doesn't mean Meghan can't ,and how do you know her half siblings visited regularly
my sons have a half sister ,they haven't seen her for a year ,her choice and before that about two years ,again her choice ,their relationship is tenuous at best
Given Sammantha ,doesn't have a relationship with her OWN kids ,why do you think she would have a relationship with her much younger half sister ?

Samantha does seem a nasty piece of work and it's not surprising Meghan and her mother wanted little to do with her. However I think it is the tone of the OW interview where Meghan paints a picture of this isolated family of Doria, Thomas and her which is grating. It's not defamatory in the words as they were chosen quite carefully, but nevertheless it's clear there is no love lost between them.

MM paints a picture of this tiny family, despite photos of them enjoying the company of the wider family, including Dorias African American side. I think with MM it's all about the narrative she wants to portray herself as and why she has such difficulty with the media. If you've spent your adult life carefully constructing a specific image, using SM and acting and then your profile gets so high facts and family are revealed you have kept hidden, you either embrace it or keep quiet. You don't keep on trying to kid people you are someone you're not.

You should be confident enough to accept all sides of your family and invite them to your wedding. I think a lot of this animosity from the markles is due to this public rejection. I think it says a lot about MMs self esteem and I do feel sympathy for her, but feel she could have thought things through better.