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Harry has shattered the illusion of the monarchy... I salute him!!

221 replies

Noangelbuthavingfun · 24/01/2023 19:14

Brave man. Painfully transparent and authentic. At last..
Someone that tells it like it is. Refreshing at least and if even 50% of people that read Spare now looks at press articles cynically then that's a result ! I am excited to see change - we need it .
What do you think ?

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IcedPurple · 25/01/2023 16:36

I just don’t get who ever thought they had ‘mystique’ in the first place?

It's a weird feature of these threads that certain posters believe that everyone 'reveres' the royals and has an idealistic picture of them as flawless individuals, due to the narrative they are 'fed' by the press. Everyone except the posters themselves of course. They are intelligent and blessed with critical thinking abilities which allow them to see through all that, unlike the rest of us 'forelock tugging' tabloid readers.

I do wonder if these posters actually know anything about Britain? The royals have been mocked and ridiculed in the press for decades. Centuries even. Nobody really believes they have any 'mystique' or that they are in any way 'better' than the rest of us. We all know they're at least as messy as the rest of us. That's why they're interesting. Perfect people are very dull. Spare hasn't told us anything we didn't know, except to confirm that Harry is even more dim, obnoxious and entitled than we had suspected. If anything, people feel sorry for the rest of the royals for having put up with him in silence for all those years.

Pyewhacket · 25/01/2023 16:38

I think he’s a highly privileged, weak minded, easily led , rather dim and sad individual. And you are a hardened anti Monarchist with an axe to grind.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 25/01/2023 16:38

'Brave' FFS. He wrote a book that comprehensively trashed his family and people who can't answer back. He didn't run into a burning building to save lives.

Pyewhacket · 25/01/2023 16:40

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 25/01/2023 16:38

'Brave' FFS. He wrote a book that comprehensively trashed his family and people who can't answer back. He didn't run into a burning building to save lives.

He didn’t write it, he had to get somebody else to do it for him.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 25/01/2023 16:44

i thought we hadn’t had one of these for a while.

no. He’s a dick. He’d have sold more books if he included tales of day to day palace life.
e.g the queen banned Philip from having beans. William sings “I’m too sexy” when doing the washing up. And camela bakes an amazing lemon drizzle.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 25/01/2023 16:47

The more Harry opens his mouth the more sympathy I have for the royal family, I think his book has done the exact opposite of what he intended. Spare and the Netflix reality show already feels like yesterday’s news, I wonder how he will cope now all the attention is dying down, it must be exhausting having to constantly think of ways to sell your family out to pay his enormous electric bill, yep go Haz.

purpledalmation · 25/01/2023 16:54

Harry has completely lost his way and even Meghan, who is so good at controlling harry, is way out of her depth. It really is a car crash

Blossomtoes · 25/01/2023 16:59

Xenia · 25/01/2023 16:09

For most people in the UK H&M have made them more not less monarchist. The royal family is more popular now than any time in my life time actually. The days when it might have been abolished are long gone.

We’re roughly the same age and I agree with you. This ridiculous fiasco has definitely done the RF’s popularity no harm, it’s made people wonder how they put up with Harry for as long as they did.

Userchange · 25/01/2023 17:11

@Noangelbuthavingfun

Oh please do enlighten us then if you think he is lying ... what is he lying about? How do you know? Genuinely interested

How do you explain away that he accepted an award for fighting racism in the royal family but he himself now claims that there was no racism.

How do you explain that Meghan said that they married days before the big do with the bishop of Cantrbury but he says that's not true?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 25/01/2023 17:17

LadyVictoriaSponge · 25/01/2023 16:47

The more Harry opens his mouth the more sympathy I have for the royal family, I think his book has done the exact opposite of what he intended. Spare and the Netflix reality show already feels like yesterday’s news, I wonder how he will cope now all the attention is dying down, it must be exhausting having to constantly think of ways to sell your family out to pay his enormous electric bill, yep go Haz.

My sympathy is with the staff at KP when Haz was there. If what Valentine Low wrote is correct they deserve medals for putting up with it.

CheeseDreamsTonight · 25/01/2023 17:19

This is a brilliant listen

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/triggernometry/id1375568988?i=1000595984100

He talks about the monarchy, it's symbolism and traitors

HareAndBear · 25/01/2023 17:30

Bluekerfuffle · 24/01/2023 19:39

The only thing that prat shattered was a dog bowl.

Very funny!

Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 17:31

hoooops · 24/01/2023 22:43

I just wonder if you think he is a money grabbing, attention seeking lying prick - who are your sources? The media .....?

Who needs the media when he has laid it out so clearly in the book?

This reminds me of Private Eye taking the piss out of those feeling sympathy for Harry, "forced to live a life of immense privilege that wasn't always exactly to his liking".

But why would you not see that just having that privilege, and with that the bigger burden of always having to fight for what's the truth is in fact...living a lie? Very few would want that...that's the point. Not everyone wants to live a life governed by what the media can or cannot sell and with no privacy

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Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 17:34

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 24/01/2023 23:03

Same way we all form opinions of those we don’t actually know … it’s not based on any true reality, more it’s a vibe.

I’ve just always found William to be going through the motions. I accept this is my interpretation, but he has a light work load compared to other Royals and I still sense he resents the job. Really, he’d love to be a Trustafarian like his mates - all the money, all the status, none of the work. I know a good few old Etonians who have more than one large property in the UK and abroad, staff and funds. They ‘work’ on their estates and have a lovely time heading into the City once a month to visit their mistress club.

I’ve always been torn on Catherine - I get the need for her to be the absolute opposite of Diana but that is the Institutions need. The family business ruling the actual family (Harry’s main complaint).

I find her so bland. She’s either so ‘eyes on the prize’ that she’ll accept anything, including putting all of her needs and personality second, or shes so totally devoid of personality or agency that she’ll accept it. Neither of these are traits I find attractive.

I get that some may say she loves William so much that she’s prepared to (and has become brilliant at) subverting her needs but again, that’s not a trait I would encourage in a daughter or similar.

Omg...quite right !!! Its either weakness or supreme focus (eyes on the prize...status, etc.) That makes you compliant. Until she gets the brunt of negative media attention . .....be interesting to see how they react to that . Say as long as there's something to say about Harry, they'll be OK

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IcedPurple · 25/01/2023 17:42

Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 17:31

But why would you not see that just having that privilege, and with that the bigger burden of always having to fight for what's the truth is in fact...living a lie? Very few would want that...that's the point. Not everyone wants to live a life governed by what the media can or cannot sell and with no privacy

Royals have plenty of privacy. We almost never see them unless they are on official duties. Even when 'off duty' photos are snapped of them, the British press rarely publishes them. Harry seems more than happy to let strangers into his 'private' life however, with descriptions of his frigid penis and delight in mocking disabled women.

And rather than, as you rather melodramatically put it "having to fight for what's the truth is", surely it's better just not to let it get to you? Accept that you cannot control what complete strangers think about you, and that ultimately you have to learn to not care, unless it's something really important? All public figures have to do that, not just royals. A huge part of Harry and Meghan's problem is that they are completely obsessed with what is being said about them. Decades from now, no doubt and we'll still be hearing 'their truth' about who made who cry at a toddler's dress fitting.

Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 17:52

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 24/01/2023 23:34

Sorry - catching up..,

but he seems to hates us for it. He seems to despise the role but yet hasn’t the balls to walk away.

I agree.... and if the book is anything to go by, hasn't got the balls to drive change. Harry says fuck it I will drive change... I will never be king anyway. There isn't really anyone else with the balls to do this - if you hate it thst much, get out. H has done just that.

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Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 17:56

Eyerollcentral · 25/01/2023 00:45

Really? I also thought he behaved appallingly towards any ‘little people’ that he described in his book - the examples above, the matron, the N. Irish soldier instructing him in Afghanistan, the person in the apartment above him, anyone working for the Queen, I could go on. What did you think was egalitarian about him punching a bodyguard whilst pissed, knowing he couldn’t give him a slap back?

I wonder if you get a different idea if you hear Harry read it himself... interesting. He narrates it on audible. I didn't read anything into treating lesser people badly... on the contrary you hear the context in the voice (I think anyway ...? ). Fascinating that people read /interpret things differently

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Blossomtoes · 25/01/2023 17:58

He’s not “driving change”. Anyone who thinks what he’s doing will make any difference to the monarchy is as delusional as he is.

Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 17:59

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 25/01/2023 10:20

Does the title of your post consciously echo George Galloway saluting Saddam Hussein, or is that just coincidence?

Nope! Just a play on his military career and how proud he is of that and his achievements... found it fascinating as never knew. I have respect for his stance and speaking his truth
But you can read into it what you like

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Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 18:00

TrashyPanda · 25/01/2023 10:25

I think it’s shown him to be a petty, immature, misogynistic man who is obsessed with his prick and has a disturbing Madonna/whore complex.

a nasty piece of work

Truthfully - have you read the book? What part of if exactly gives you this idea? I'm baffled by your view... but if you haven't read it I could understand it

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Eyerollcentral · 25/01/2023 18:02

@Noangelbuthavingfun Oh right it just sounds like he a massively entitled prick when you read it yourself but when Harry reads it you realise he is actually the reincarnation of St Francis of Assisi. Give me a break

Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 18:04

shockthemonkey · 25/01/2023 13:54

He sings beautifully, too... right?

😆well... I wouldn't go that far lol

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IcedPurple · 25/01/2023 18:05

Eyerollcentral · 25/01/2023 18:02

@Noangelbuthavingfun Oh right it just sounds like he a massively entitled prick when you read it yourself but when Harry reads it you realise he is actually the reincarnation of St Francis of Assisi. Give me a break

The definition of the word 'context' is being stretched by the day.

First it meant reading the relevant few pages, then the entire book, and now, it seems, listening to the dulcet tones of the Prince of Eight Hour Cream himself. That's the only way you can truly understand the Wonder of Harold.

It's all about the 'context' when Harry's very own words confirm that just about everything his critics have said is true. And the rest.

Eyerollcentral · 25/01/2023 18:09

IcedPurple · 25/01/2023 18:05

The definition of the word 'context' is being stretched by the day.

First it meant reading the relevant few pages, then the entire book, and now, it seems, listening to the dulcet tones of the Prince of Eight Hour Cream himself. That's the only way you can truly understand the Wonder of Harold.

It's all about the 'context' when Harry's very own words confirm that just about everything his critics have said is true. And the rest.

Quite right, context here means agree Harry is amazing even though he describes himself as a total wab. It’s like a cult!

Noangelbuthavingfun · 25/01/2023 18:09

AmazonianAvatar · 25/01/2023 00:56

All Harry’s done for me is make me like William and Kate. I was never interested in the RF before him and his narc wife started their whingefest. Totally baffled by the hysteria over Diana. Occasionally mused if the Queen wiped her own bum if I noticed her on TV although I did like her colourful outfits as she got older. Surprised at first at such bright colours on an elderly lady and thought she looked great.

Most people weren’t deluded to think they were anything over than human (or lizards) so nothing surprising that there might have been some dysfunction.

A lot of people have suffered truly horrific abusive childhoods (me included) with all types of abuse, lost one or both parents at an early age, but we have to carry on often without reaching our full potential and in poverty due to accumulated mental health issues without his riches, servants, education, job of choice, private jets, luxurious holidays and access to first class physical and mental health care.

I can’t identify with him at all and him telling his ‘truth’ certainly doesn’t help any of us. He’s only making money for an even more hedonistic lifestyle.

It’s just made me judge him as an over privileged, pompous, whiny weiner with no self awareness and pretty nasty to boot.

I had to read your post twice. Interesting view and I can totally see your point ... comparing his views to normal people.
I suppose I looked at this in comparison to what we know of thd monarchy today - not in the context of normal people and their struggles. So I can see it from.your side and your interpretation .... I suppose I just think life is hard for everyone at some point... who is anyone to judge what you value and what you strive for. Just because they have money and privelegde ... doesn't mean they have to suck up a life of lies to make up for it. God I know I wouldn't want to... thanks for your post

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