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Funding Freedom - Palace lies

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babsanderson · 20/01/2023 13:25

Omid Scobie in Finding Freedom said that Meghan received security training, including on how to deal with being kidnapped. Omid Scobie says in a tweet below that a Palace Official confirmed this was true, But it was not.

In both the Mail court case and in Harrys book Spare, it was revealed Meghan was not provided with this security training.

The Palace straight out lied to Omid Scobie.

Funding Freedom - Palace lies
Funding Freedom - Palace lies
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feellikeanalien · 20/01/2023 14:17

Omid Scobie also worked for that bastion of truthful journalism, Heat magazine.😀

greenbackers · 20/01/2023 14:17

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:16

@greenbackers Don't be ridiculous. No one has claimed it is. But it is also not the kind of publication that was being alleged.

You're the one asserting that Omid Scobit must be correct in his tweet, even though he has form for lying and has given no details of his sources. "Palace Source" is totally meaningless.

Lizziet64 · 20/01/2023 14:18

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IcedPurple · 20/01/2023 14:18

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:16

I swear William and Charles could go on TV and say we lie all the time about Harry and Meghan, and you would still all excuse them.

Nice strawman there.

You are the person uncritically believing a hack known to be a mouthpiece for Harry and Meghan.

Given that it's well known that 'the palace' does not comment on security matters, has it never occurred to you that Scobie might be lying to save face?

IcedPurple · 20/01/2023 14:19

feellikeanalien · 20/01/2023 14:17

Omid Scobie also worked for that bastion of truthful journalism, Heat magazine.😀

Wasn't he a K Pop expert before transferring his sublime journalistic skills to being a professional Sussex sycophant?

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:20

@feellikeanalien Yes he did. That was his first job in journalism and he says he left after being called a racial slur. So I doubt he is a fan of them either.

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smilesy · 20/01/2023 14:21

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:16

I swear William and Charles could go on TV and say we lie all the time about Harry and Meghan, and you would still all excuse them.

All we are saying is that Scobie not as reliable as you seem to want him to be

MardyHa · 20/01/2023 14:23

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:15

Okay so the Palace lied to protect Harry around drugs accusation, you accept that.
Do you think the Palace tells other lies to journalists?

Have you read Spare? Harry says that he lied to the Palace about this, when they asked him. He decided a journalist was calling their bluff and so took the risk. So then they took him at his word.

Coronateachingagain · 20/01/2023 14:23

What is the definition of security training or kidnapp training as such. It could be something as simple as explaining how you will work with your security people. Something like a briefing that everybody with security following around will have!
Lost in translation, everyone

JonahCL9 · 20/01/2023 14:23

I thought Scobie lied about his age in an interview...

I was intrigued by the relationship/balance between Scobie and co author Durand in FundingFreedom

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:24

Details of William and Kates security. I wonder where that came from if not the Palace?
www.hellomagazine.com/homes/20221121157586/prince-william-kate-middleton-adelaide-cottage-security-gatehouse/

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babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:25

Coronateachingagain · 20/01/2023 14:23

What is the definition of security training or kidnapp training as such. It could be something as simple as explaining how you will work with your security people. Something like a briefing that everybody with security following around will have!
Lost in translation, everyone

I have already said this was a faked kidnap scenario.

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IcedPurple · 20/01/2023 14:26

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:24

Details of William and Kates security. I wonder where that came from if not the Palace?
www.hellomagazine.com/homes/20221121157586/prince-william-kate-middleton-adelaide-cottage-security-gatehouse/

No real 'details' there. Just speculation.

Why on earth would 'the palace' be sharing highly sensitive information with hack journalists? What would be gained by so doing?

Is it actually impossible for you to even consider that a glorified gossip columnist might be fibbing to save face?

DappledThings · 20/01/2023 14:30

Everyone lies sometimes. Everyone interprets and remembers things differently to other people. Sometimes journalists lie, sometimes they don't properly check their sources, sometimes it's about interpretation.

None of that us any kind of revelation and nothing in this thread is revelatory either.

JustDrama · 20/01/2023 14:30

You sound very cross about it OP. Does it affect your life?

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:31

I hope if anyone suggests in the media that Omid Scobie is lying that he sues them. He is a journalist and will not have tweeted what he did without evidence.
The Palace lied. The Palace lie all the time.

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TrashyPanda · 20/01/2023 14:32

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:11

So do you think the Palace does not lie? In spite of evidence to the contrary.

No, I reckon Scobie needs to provide his proof.

in this interview he states he checks all his facts twice, so it should be easy for him to show two letters from BP.

www.tatler.com/article/omid-scobie-interview-finding-freedom-meghan-markle-new-epilogue

he also says he was one of only 3 journalists invited by MM on her last day of public duty. Which is strange, given his pedigree of working (mainly) for trashy magazines. He’s not exactly credible, is he? Why would anyone release sensitive information to any journalist, far less someone like Scobie, who is basically a gossip columnist?

Bakeacaketoday73 · 20/01/2023 14:34

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:06

Okay so now the line is the Palace does not lie is it? Even though you accept the Palace did lie to journalists about Harrys drug taking?
It is clear the Palace lies again and again and we can't believe a word they say.

You really need to read back what you are saying....

You are accusing the Palace of lying - where is the proof the Palace said anything in the first place? "Well Omid Scobie said the Palace said...."THAT IS NOT THE PALACE!

No one is saying the Palace don't lie, they are saying that you have no proof from this statement that they DO lie.

OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark · 20/01/2023 14:34

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:24

Details of William and Kates security. I wonder where that came from if not the Palace?
www.hellomagazine.com/homes/20221121157586/prince-william-kate-middleton-adelaide-cottage-security-gatehouse/

That could have come from someone who observed the security gatehouse!

In any event, even if it was released by the palace, it’s the type of statement that increases their security. It’s telling whoever might want to have a crack that they’ve got to get past the security hut first. And it’s hardly a surprise that they’d have that. Very easy to guess they probably would.

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:34

Why do you want to attack Omid? Oh I know! He was Royal correspondent for Harpers Bazaar. It is a glossy fashion magazine, but has a bit of celebrity news in it.
www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/

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IcedPurple · 20/01/2023 14:35

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:31

I hope if anyone suggests in the media that Omid Scobie is lying that he sues them. He is a journalist and will not have tweeted what he did without evidence.
The Palace lied. The Palace lie all the time.

You seem very protective of someone who is essentially a gossip columnist. And spokesperson for the Sussexes, which no doubt explains your great affection.

Of course it can't be proved that Scobie is lying because he only refers to an unnamed 'palace official'. Impossible to prove either way. However, we are as free to speculate about the veracity of his claims as you are about 'the palace'. If you want to contact him with details of this page, feel free. You do seem terribly bothered about anyone questioning him, although that's par for the course when one is a 'journalist'.

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:36

@OrcastralManoeuvresInTheDark And the Palace claiming Meghan has had security training including a staged kidnapping scenario with training on how to react somehow damages her security?
Nonsense.
And I note those claiming the Palace never talk about security. Also not true.

The Palace lied. The Palace frequently lie.

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shard5 · 20/01/2023 14:36

Gosh this thread is like trying to reason with a 3 year old!

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 14:37

@shard5 Yes it is. Logic just leads to yet another new objection.

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TrashyPanda · 20/01/2023 14:37

babsanderson · 20/01/2023 13:58

It is normal to fact check and for Palace officials to deny or confirm facts.

You don’t really believe there are enough staff in the BP press office, to research and then answer every single query about any member of the royal family that comes in from any individual across the world, do you?

credible, verified journalists are one thing.

Glorified gossip columnist are another.

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