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Harry just protecting the other "spares"

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Magnoliasunrise · 14/01/2023 06:52

Shocked to see in this mornings Telegraph that Harry is concerned for the other "spares" He just wants to break the bad parenting pattern and stop it happening to Charlotte or George. If I was W&K I would be absolutely LIVID by now. What does anyone else think?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/prince-harry-interview-bryony-gordon-spare-book/

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Swissmountains · 14/01/2023 13:40

AutumnCrow · 14/01/2023 13:37

I bet Beyoncé is thrilled being dragged into this massive soap opera.

Because that's all it is: soap. That's why there's the interest, the book sales, the viewers, the listeners. There's about as much dignity left as Chastity Dingle screeching in her long cardi at Cain about 'family values', surrounded by bodies and startled children.

I thought that too! Anyone thats anyone in the US will not want their brand contaminated by this and their social diaries are going to have dried up to nothing if they haven't already done so. The indiscretion if nothing else.

Very tainted brand now, I would be handing back the titles and moving house/country if I were them and have a new start. They can sell it as 'Harry's recovery' or whatever because they are going to be persona non grata everywhere now.

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 13:42

Whatever happened to #be kind?

Many have thankfully grown tired of this empty cotton wool sound bite, which usually means, “stop telling the truth about my behaviour because it makes me feel bad!” I’m so happy it mostly gets the eye rolling it deserves, when it’s trotted out these days.

Inkpotlover · 14/01/2023 13:43

Twanky · 14/01/2023 13:36

I think that the late Queen Mother had too much influence in BP, it was probably she who blocked Margaret's marriage to Peter Townsend and I think it was she who blocked Charles and Camilla because Camilla had a past, even though Charles too had a past.

It was the constitution that blocked Margaret's marriage, not the Queen Mother. Because Peter Townsend was a divorcee, she would need the monarch's permission as head of the Church of England to marry. The Queen suggested they wait until she turned 25 for the fuss to die down and PT was sent to Europe to work as an envoy to wait it out. Then, when Margaret did turn 25, they realised the small print of the constitution said she also needed the permission of Parliament and the only way they'd grant it was if she renounced her claims of succession and became a commoner. She refused, he met someone else and then she married Snowdon.

LolaSmiles · 14/01/2023 13:44

I thought that too! Anyone thats anyone in the US will not want their brand contaminated by this and their social diaries are going to have dried up to nothing if they haven't already done so.The indiscretion if nothing else.
I've thought that too!
The movers and shakers in the A list tend to have very little of their private lives in the press. There's not regular leaks about their relationships and families.

If I were someone in elite circles I'd be very wary of opening up to Harry and Meghan now because they've shown themselves to be at best indiscrete and at worst shamelessly willing to sell out anyone's information for a quick dollar.

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 13:46

SleepingStandingUp · 14/01/2023 12:46

I think the best antidote to Spareinitus is to have that third child. Louis and Charlotte can slag of George's "luckiness" and celebrate their own freedoms. He, as heir, will also have two different siblings to bounce off rather than one resentful one. Perhaps Kate should have another after all

Wouldn’t it be lovely if she did? For its own sake of course, but as a bonus, it would be such an irritant to Harry and his pompous stipulations that for the sake of climate change, no one should be having more than two children to ferry around the world in big gas guzzlers and on multiple private jets.

GladysPew · 14/01/2023 13:47

Whinge · 14/01/2023 13:36

This is a good point. Harry seems to be so focused on his past and how being the spare was a negative experience, that he's ignoring the fact he's creating a variation on the heir and spare relationship between his own children.

Lilibet doesn't even have her own identity, she's always going to be reminded that she was named after the childhood nickname of Queen Elizabeth II and Diana.

He's even named William after him calling him his Archnemesis

GladysPew · 14/01/2023 13:48

Sorry, copied wrong post.

AliceOlive · 14/01/2023 13:48

SomethingOnce · 14/01/2023 12:53

Gosh I’ve never seen that footage before. I’m usually wary of things like that as I think too much can be read into an expression and nobody can beam all day long. But that evil expression at little 3? year old Charlotte is plain as day, horrifying!

Evil expression?! Are you a bit mad?

I’m no fan of MM, but that change in expression and dip of the head could easily be read as responsive concern for a little one hesitantly looking up. No way of any of us knowing.

This picking away at interactions involving children as entertainment is quite intrusive for the children.

I agree it’s just nuts. But then Harry tells us Kate made a face when asked to loan her lipgloss and so many people here believe this and think they know exactly what it means.

When I saw that Justine called the Meghan haters unhinged I wondered how she missed their counterparts; those posters that hate W&K just because they think it helps Meghan and Harry somehow.

MysteryBelle · 14/01/2023 13:48

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 13:46

Wouldn’t it be lovely if she did? For its own sake of course, but as a bonus, it would be such an irritant to Harry and his pompous stipulations that for the sake of climate change, no one should be having more than two children to ferry around the world in big gas guzzlers and on multiple private jets.

This

LavenderHillMob · 14/01/2023 13:48

Andrew is 12 years younger than Charles. By the time Andrew was aware of being the spare, Charles was an adult so had a lot more freedom - not that it turned out well.

I can imagine a 2 year age gap makes a difference. And although the gap between Anne and Charles is similar, they weren't schooled together and Anne was no longer the spare by age 10. It's not a surprise to see that H & W

LavenderHillMob · 14/01/2023 13:49

H& W are more competitive

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 13:49

oreste · 14/01/2023 13:14

Giles Coren attended the opening of Soho House in Istanbul with Harry and Meghan over a weekend. The rumour appeared within days of it. At the time, Meghan was already leaking to Canadian blogger. Henrietta has his big girl pants in a twist because the palace originally unearthed that MEGHAN WAS A LEAKE. To tip the story the opposite way, he has been accusing them of leaking ever since to correct it in his own head.

Is this true? 😲

Swissmountains · 14/01/2023 13:51

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 13:42

Whatever happened to #be kind?

Many have thankfully grown tired of this empty cotton wool sound bite, which usually means, “stop telling the truth about my behaviour because it makes me feel bad!” I’m so happy it mostly gets the eye rolling it deserves, when it’s trotted out these days.

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IcedPurple · 14/01/2023 13:52

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 13:42

Whatever happened to #be kind?

Many have thankfully grown tired of this empty cotton wool sound bite, which usually means, “stop telling the truth about my behaviour because it makes me feel bad!” I’m so happy it mostly gets the eye rolling it deserves, when it’s trotted out these days.

Yes, and it's almost always directed at women.

Was Harold #beingkind when he revealed very private details about his family in his book?

BigBoysDontCry · 14/01/2023 13:53

OneDayIWillBeOrganised · 14/01/2023 12:55

We're not all limited as grown adults by our family though.

But what you are limited by is also largely irrelevant. And many people ARE limited as grown adults by their family. They might have caring responsibilities that they can't afford to outsource financially or emotionally. It's not always about controlling, it just is what it is.

Being incredibly wealthy he does have more control over his life than lots of other people. Especially as he clearly lacks in terms of intelligence and work ethics.

Swissmountains · 14/01/2023 13:56

BigBoysDontCry · 14/01/2023 13:53

But what you are limited by is also largely irrelevant. And many people ARE limited as grown adults by their family. They might have caring responsibilities that they can't afford to outsource financially or emotionally. It's not always about controlling, it just is what it is.

Being incredibly wealthy he does have more control over his life than lots of other people. Especially as he clearly lacks in terms of intelligence and work ethics.

True liberation from family confines can be found I find by a cast iron will to do things differently, and follow your own values. It can not be found endlessly picking at the wound or starting fights.

Ridemeginger · 14/01/2023 14:00

IcedPurple · 14/01/2023 13:52

Yes, and it's almost always directed at women.

Was Harold #beingkind when he revealed very private details about his family in his book?

His misogynist, ableist anecdote about a disabled woman working at his school was certainly not kind! People twisting themselves into pretzel shapes to defend this astonish me.

Blossomtoes · 14/01/2023 14:00

Suzi89 · 14/01/2023 13:25

Doesn’t Charles decide who does what engagements? So it’s pretty unfair to say Anne is more hardworking then W&K when Charles is the one who makes the decisions.

Their offices co-operate to decide who does what. It’s perfectly fair to say that some members of the RF make themselves more available than others. Engagements are a blunt instrument to measure workload, there’s a lot more to being an effective member of the RF. Charles is, by all accounts, a workaholic.

MysteryBelle · 14/01/2023 14:00

oreste · 14/01/2023 13:14

Giles Coren attended the opening of Soho House in Istanbul with Harry and Meghan over a weekend. The rumour appeared within days of it. At the time, Meghan was already leaking to Canadian blogger. Henrietta has his big girl pants in a twist because the palace originally unearthed that MEGHAN WAS A LEAKE. To tip the story the opposite way, he has been accusing them of leaking ever since to correct it in his own head.

You are right on the money. Also, do you all remember at the beginning when Harry attended an event and was seated next to Rose? Meghan was told she couldn’t attend with Harry, this was in early days of relationship. It was reported at the time and there was a picture of Harry sitting next to Rose that was in all the papers. I bet Meghan was very angry and the rumor happened after that. I think she is the source of the rumor.

Ridemeginger · 14/01/2023 14:00

But then "Be Kind" is always a one way street for the people who invoke it.

IcedPurple · 14/01/2023 14:06

Ridemeginger · 14/01/2023 14:00

His misogynist, ableist anecdote about a disabled woman working at his school was certainly not kind! People twisting themselves into pretzel shapes to defend this astonish me.

They'll be along to tell us that we need to see the 'context'.

I wonder what Invictus think? Mind you they've allowed themselves to become basically the Harry and Meghan show of late, so chances are they won't mind.

BethDuttonsTwin · 14/01/2023 14:07

Ridemeginger · 14/01/2023 14:00

But then "Be Kind" is always a one way street for the people who invoke it.

Indeed. Seems to be only a very few who determine the definition of kindness and also who gets to benefit from The Kindness.

queenofarles · 14/01/2023 14:09

Giles Coren attended the opening of Soho House in Istanbul with Harry and Meghan over a weekend. The rumour appeared within days of it. can’t be Istanbul , Amsterdam maybe.
I swear they are like McDonalds they are everywhere .

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/01/2023 14:12

His misogynist, ableist anecdote about a disabled woman working at his school was certainly not kind! People twisting themselves into pretzel shapes to defend this astonish me

Useful, though; as I said on another thread, it's worth knowing exactly who the posters are who'll defend the telling of this "anecdote" without apparent regret

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/01/2023 14:12

queenofarles · 14/01/2023 14:09

Giles Coren attended the opening of Soho House in Istanbul with Harry and Meghan over a weekend. The rumour appeared within days of it. can’t be Istanbul , Amsterdam maybe.
I swear they are like McDonalds they are everywhere .

Istanbul was earlier (2015) - Amsterdam was 2018 and apparently attended by the trio

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