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Harry just protecting the other "spares"

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Magnoliasunrise · 14/01/2023 06:52

Shocked to see in this mornings Telegraph that Harry is concerned for the other "spares" He just wants to break the bad parenting pattern and stop it happening to Charlotte or George. If I was W&K I would be absolutely LIVID by now. What does anyone else think?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/prince-harry-interview-bryony-gordon-spare-book/

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oreste · 14/01/2023 13:14

MrsMitford3 · 14/01/2023 13:11

Giles Coren has admitted to making the whole thing up at a boozy lunch...

Giles Coren attended the opening of Soho House in Istanbul with Harry and Meghan over a weekend. The rumour appeared within days of it. At the time, Meghan was already leaking to Canadian blogger. Henrietta has his big girl pants in a twist because the palace originally unearthed that MEGHAN WAS A LEAKE. To tip the story the opposite way, he has been accusing them of leaking ever since to correct it in his own head.

Shelefttheweb · 14/01/2023 13:15

SomethingOnce · 14/01/2023 13:13

I’d venture that Princess Anne has her horses and is therefore entirely satisfied - neigh (see what I did there), delighted - with the way things turned out. Imagine being called upon to divert attention to all that monarch nonsense!

And yet she has always been one of the hardest working royals

mixedrecycling · 14/01/2023 13:17

I think Margaret was unlucky in being born when she was - as an upper class girl she was expected to have accomplishments rather than an education, then marry 'suitably' and have children - and she didn't find that stimulating or challenging enough.

Anne escaped some of that, she went to school, and was fortunate enough to find something she was passionate about and could know that her achievements were her own (yes, money was a great help in getting the horses and training she needed, but no-one competes at the level she did without having talent and hard work as well).

MalagaNights · 14/01/2023 13:17

I think what people don't understand about the monarchy and the royal family is that they are not 'superior' to us, they are performing a symbolic role for us.

The Crown is symbolic of the nations history and unity.
The monarch is symbolic of the crown.

They are not chosen for their superiority they are just given this role by birth. That means we will over time get some monarchs who rise to the significance of the role, some who cannot and some who reject the role. That will be the story.

The alternative is a popularity contest where we periodically decide who has convinced us they'd be great at the role.

I think that way we'd get some great representatives and some terrible ones but in a different way to now. They'd all be people seeking it for themselves.

So Harry's harping is ridiculous. No one thinks the monarch is a superior person, or more worthy, they are just the person given the symbolic role. Which only one person can do. William is that person.

If we were a republic I'm sure him and meg would run for president of the UK. They believe they have the qualities.

In fact HMQ was a very ordinary women who would never have sought the role but who commited to it in an extraordinary way because she believed the symbolism of it was deeply important.

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/01/2023 13:18

mixedrecycling · 14/01/2023 13:17

I think Margaret was unlucky in being born when she was - as an upper class girl she was expected to have accomplishments rather than an education, then marry 'suitably' and have children - and she didn't find that stimulating or challenging enough.

Anne escaped some of that, she went to school, and was fortunate enough to find something she was passionate about and could know that her achievements were her own (yes, money was a great help in getting the horses and training she needed, but no-one competes at the level she did without having talent and hard work as well).

I think Margaret was also really unlucky in her dad dying quite young - it messed up the dynamic between her and Elizabeth, suddenly having to ask her sibling's permission to marry and so on.

Twanky · 14/01/2023 13:19

crosspusscrossstitcher · 14/01/2023 12:23

He really just needs to shut the fuck up now.

How DARE he involve Charlotte and Louis in his arguments and imply his brother and sister-in-law are bad parents?

And he has "material" for a second book? But wants to be welcomed back into the family? With THAT threat!?!

I would cut him off if he were my relative. No way would he be allowed near my family. I'd happily never see or speak to him again - because he'd print every.fucking.word.

Wrong, he would print his version of every.fucking.word..

SomethingOnce · 14/01/2023 13:20

And yet she has always been one of the hardest working royals

Equestrian energy, really. Hard work, no fussing.

MarshaMelrose · 14/01/2023 13:20

What I don't understand is why Harry isn't allowed a memoir. They're pretty common in the world of rich, famous and/or influential. Why are other memoirs ok for people to spill their guts and yet Harry is bashed for telling his story?

I don't think it's because he's telling his story that people are upset, I think it's because he's revealing personal and medical details of others and repeating conversations and thoughts of close family members who shared them with him in the expectation they would remain private.
He's invading the privacy if others in a way he is scathing about when it's the tabloids. But he's actually betraying his family.

purpledalmation · 14/01/2023 13:24

BellePeppa · 14/01/2023 10:40

The more he talks the more unhinged he comes across, the more William has my sympathies for having had to put up with this spoilt brat moron all these years. It’s got to a stage where I can’t physically look at Harry for more than a few seconds as he makes me feel urgh. His smug face, his smirks, the evil glint in his eye are just 🤮. He has gone from my favourite royal (pre M days) to me being absolutely repulsed by him. I even felt slight envy (not sure that’s the right word, maybe wistful) at her getting him. 😬🥴

And if I hear him repeat one more time ... leaking and planting to the media, I will vomit

Inkpotlover · 14/01/2023 13:25

mixedrecycling · 14/01/2023 13:17

I think Margaret was unlucky in being born when she was - as an upper class girl she was expected to have accomplishments rather than an education, then marry 'suitably' and have children - and she didn't find that stimulating or challenging enough.

Anne escaped some of that, she went to school, and was fortunate enough to find something she was passionate about and could know that her achievements were her own (yes, money was a great help in getting the horses and training she needed, but no-one competes at the level she did without having talent and hard work as well).

Your first para is slightly incorrect. She did study until A-level age – her favourite subject was literature and she developed a love of the arts and in particular ballet while Elizabeth's lessons focused solely on constitutional law.

Suzi89 · 14/01/2023 13:25

Doesn’t Charles decide who does what engagements? So it’s pretty unfair to say Anne is more hardworking then W&K when Charles is the one who makes the decisions.

itsnotmeitisactuallyyou · 14/01/2023 13:26

Hazza needs to stop talking now,enough already,most people are probably sick to the back teeth of them all.i know i am.

flapjackfairy · 14/01/2023 13:26

dont know if anyone has mentioned this point but for all Harry knows his kids may be resentful of being denied their place in the RF once they are old enough to understand it.
They may as adults reflect on the isolated existence they were forced to endure and rue the missed opportunities by being kept apart from extended family on both sides.

He needs to think about his own kids wellbeing and leave other peoples kids out if it. After all his actions have already increased the real.risks to his family by provoking the Taliban.

shard5 · 14/01/2023 13:28

He's focussing on trying to get e response out of William so he's upped the ante and is now questioning will and Catherine's parenting.
The difference is that Kate has a very strong and sound relationship with her parents and siblings so the children have atleast one side of a family who are 'normal'.
Harry should butt out, imagine the uproar if Will had questioned anything about Harry and Meghan's parenting style?

Maireas · 14/01/2023 13:30

Suzi89 · 14/01/2023 13:25

Doesn’t Charles decide who does what engagements? So it’s pretty unfair to say Anne is more hardworking then W&K when Charles is the one who makes the decisions.

No he doesn't.
Anne manages her own engagement diary.

queenofarles · 14/01/2023 13:31

Honestly , I think Anne wins , she just seems like she has a very comfortable life , she’s a hard worker for sure , content in her marriage , her children seem lovely and happy, owns horses , great health.

If this is the sort of life Charlotte or Louis is destined to have then it sure beats being high on weed and shrooms in a big mansion in LA .

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 14/01/2023 13:31

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/01/2023 13:18

I think Margaret was also really unlucky in her dad dying quite young - it messed up the dynamic between her and Elizabeth, suddenly having to ask her sibling's permission to marry and so on.

Definitely.

Made doubly awkward by your big sister being head of the CoE (pre the existence of lady-vicars so a female head of what was still very much an entirely patriarchal institution).

If Harry had been less of a loose cannon I’m sure he could’ve been found some sort of diplomatic/ambassadorial role - but the drug taking and lack of personal responsibility no doubt made that a bit too risky?

IcedPurple · 14/01/2023 13:34

On the flip side he is now absolutely loaded, and has 400 million Americans (to say nothing for the rest of the world) deeply entertained and interested in anythjng and everything he says/does.

Are you using Harry's fact checker regarding the population of America?

And are people really "deeply entertained and interested in anythjng and everything he says/does"? Or are they just fascinated by royal gossip and dirt? He's had 3 years to find a career which doesn't involve dishing the dirt on his family, and shows no real sign of doing so. When he runs out of royal gossip to peddle, will people really be so interested in him?

And I would argue that by the standards of the lifestyle he seems to think he deserves, he's not 'absolutely loaded' at all. Especially as it's very unclear what his income stream will be once the royal gossip dries up.

Magnoliasunrise · 14/01/2023 13:34

Maybe he should have called his book

Pissed off I'm not the Spare anymore

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DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 14/01/2023 13:36

Maireas · 14/01/2023 13:30

No he doesn't.
Anne manages her own engagement diary.

Anne seems to takes a lot of the less glam jobs?

She looks surprisingly at ease in hi vis and a hard hat!

I expect it suits her to leave most of the fancier/dressier occasions to Kate/Camilla/Sophie/Princess Michael etc.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/01/2023 13:36

The message is loud and clear, the gun is at the heads of the royal family, come to the god damn table and apologise or I will spill everything

Harry's already told us what he thinks about his own "memory curation" as opposed to objective truth, so if he's going to try this stunt he'd better make sure he's got the proof

In a free world he can say whatever he wants, but even spoken words have consequences and I rather doubt they'll appeal to him - especially now it's getting to the point where it's hard to believe a word he says

Twanky · 14/01/2023 13:36

mixedrecycling · 14/01/2023 13:17

I think Margaret was unlucky in being born when she was - as an upper class girl she was expected to have accomplishments rather than an education, then marry 'suitably' and have children - and she didn't find that stimulating or challenging enough.

Anne escaped some of that, she went to school, and was fortunate enough to find something she was passionate about and could know that her achievements were her own (yes, money was a great help in getting the horses and training she needed, but no-one competes at the level she did without having talent and hard work as well).

I think that the late Queen Mother had too much influence in BP, it was probably she who blocked Margaret's marriage to Peter Townsend and I think it was she who blocked Charles and Camilla because Camilla had a past, even though Charles too had a past.

Whinge · 14/01/2023 13:36

RockaLock · 14/01/2023 10:52

And yet, despite being The Spare being the worst thing that could ever happen to anyone ever, Harry has named his charitable foundation and production company after Archie.

I wonder how Lilibet will feel being the spare in her family!

This is a good point. Harry seems to be so focused on his past and how being the spare was a negative experience, that he's ignoring the fact he's creating a variation on the heir and spare relationship between his own children.

Lilibet doesn't even have her own identity, she's always going to be reminded that she was named after the childhood nickname of Queen Elizabeth II and Diana.

AutumnCrow · 14/01/2023 13:37

MarshaMelrose · 14/01/2023 13:04

Blame Beyonce.

I bet Beyoncé is thrilled being dragged into this massive soap opera.

Because that's all it is: soap. That's why there's the interest, the book sales, the viewers, the listeners. There's about as much dignity left as Chastity Dingle screeching in her long cardi at Cain about 'family values', surrounded by bodies and startled children.

Florissant · 14/01/2023 13:38

Twanky · 14/01/2023 13:36

I think that the late Queen Mother had too much influence in BP, it was probably she who blocked Margaret's marriage to Peter Townsend and I think it was she who blocked Charles and Camilla because Camilla had a past, even though Charles too had a past.

She didn't block Princess Margaret from marrying Peter Townsend. The QM told her to choose between being a princess and marrying PT. Margaret chose the former.