Harry just protecting the other "spares"

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Shocked to see in this mornings Telegraph that Harry is concerned for the other "spares" He just wants to break the bad parenting pattern and stop it happening to Charlotte or George. If I was W&K I would be absolutely LIVID by now. What does anyone else think?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/prince-harry-interview-bryony-gordon-spare-book/

That is a good analogy. The drills the children go through in case of a gun wielding loon.

I wonder if Harry worries his kids will end up feeling like the Spares.

They will grow up, without much (close) extended family. Harry’s relationship with his cousins seems to have been important to him and his kids won’t have it.

It could be Harry’s kids that feel hard done by. His kids will grow up seeing photos of their cousins with their grandfather at exciting events. It could be his kids, who are feeling like they don’t matter much to their extended family.

Or, even rebel and decide they would rather go back to England when they are adults. Maybe he should focus and worry about that. And the impact he is having on his own kids.

I came to start the same thread. This is a parenting website, there are loads of threads about interfering family members thinking they have the right to tell parents how to bring up their children.

For me this is the worst part of the book. Whatever Harry has lived through had affected him and he is voicing his experiences 'his truth' bawk. But to think he knows better, to think he has the right to interfere with W&K children, to think he somehow can 'fix' the Cambridge Children and on top of that tell the whole world is narcissism in its finest.

Can you imagine the uproar if anyone said anything about his children, isolated from both families.

If he hadn't been the spare, he'd never have even met Meghan, never mind married her.

I think he's an arrogant self-important prick. Obviously all the "spares" before him had such dreadful lives without him to be their saviour.

If he hadn't been the spare, he'd never have even met Meghan, never mind married her.

This, entirely.

If Harry hadn't been the spare and the privilege of being born into that family he'd have been fortunate to hold down a job in McDonald's, quite frankly. He'd still be the same whining baby too, and nothing would have been his fault.

I'd be pretty fuming if I was W or K - at this point Harry is a stranger to the Wales' kids.

I'm also not sure that there's a particularly strong heir and spare dynamic with QEII's kids - Andrew is an arse but he doesn't seem to have Harry level issues about being the younger brother. Plenty of other issues mind! And Ann, who was the original spare, seems the opposite of bothered

Maybe bitter about no longer being the spare.

Spare no more as he is pushed down the line of succession.

You're right. He's so lacking in self awareness.

I e started to believe he has narcissistic personality disorder

he literally meets the criteria absolutely.

www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

I think there's a lot of truth in this. He clung to William, didn't want to lose him to Kate, sees his brother growing in to his future role and having kids - he's being pushed down the line of succession and knows that he's got a limited time of being important as a Royal.

He probably saw the pushed aside, lacking direction Andrew and Margaret as his future. Could have chosen Anne as his role model instead but...

I think I'd agree with this, after this deluded interview.

Harry's problem isn't that he was the Spare, but that he is no longer the Spare. Charlotte is the Spare.

But he attempts to dress his jealousy up as a benign saviour motivation, trying to mimic Earl Spencer's 'promise' at Diana's funeral probably. He'd be about as much use as him too - i.e. none. In fact I imagine that the best thing for his niece and nephews would be for them to be kept far away from H's sniping and envy.

Absolutely.

Harry (and most people) seem to forget that the Cambridge children have another set of grandparents plus an aunt who is very close to their mum, who all have fairly normal (if wealthy) lives. They are not isolated in the RF bubble. I am sure William will want to ensure that all his children get the opportunities he didn't have to thrive, study and work, and Kate will want them to have the sort of support and happiness she had growing up.

"William and I have talked about it once or twice, and he has made it very clear to me that his kids are not my responsibility"

I'll bet. If my wee brother (or my older sister) started that about my children I would not be impressed. My brother loves to give his opinion about things but never criticises DH +my parenting, and we never comment negatively on his children's upbringing either.

God, so he thought the title of 'Spare' was demeaning and insulting, but he owned it by using it as the title for his book. Now, he then uses that same name, which he found insulting, to refer to his niece or nephew.

He is so nasty and vindictive.

To be fair the school kids here have to learn the same drills in the UK but yes,I get what you mean.

This is this self proclaimed feminist's second negative citing of Charlotte as well. Is he jealous that she's more mature than him, or something?

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

I can’t see how he would’ve ever really felt like a ‘spare’ anyway growing up, as he would’ve surely expected that William would very likely have Children, and that this would mean his position in line to the Throne would go down.

Well this is common sense, but it increasingly seems like he doesn’t have much of this.

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Despite being a very "mature" teacher, I have never yet had to conduct mad gunmen drills, the worst we do is dog on the playground scenarios! ( although when working near Crowthorne we did have " escapee from Broadmoor" practice" )
I would imagine after Dunblane that safety drills were routine but I certainly wouldn't say they were commonplace now.

Sibling jealousy is pretty normal in families IMHO. Usually first born occupies a "special place" sure did in my family. My brother (first born) was treated like a god by my mother.
I think Harry has massively overstepped by wanting to "save" W&Ks children. He seems to forget that W&K have had a long and stable relationship and for the most part, keep their children out of the limelight. Obviously he has no wish to repeat the mistakes of his parents.Harry would do well to follow that path, keep his head down and get on with creating a safe and happy environment for his children to grow up in