Please ‘spare’ us! There’s going to be sequel!

[Tamarindtree]

There's enough for another book! Prince Harry says he cut his memoir in HALF and stripped out details about his father and brother - as he claims he has 'long-term' aim to 'fix' the monarchy!

What an arrogant and deluded oaf!

The Duke of Sussex told The Telegraph he chose to leave out several bombshells because he was concerned his father and brother would not 'ever forgive' him.

'The first draft was different. It was 800 pages, and now it's down to 400 pages. It could have been two books, put it that way. And the hard bit was taking things out.

'There are some things that have happened, especially between me and my brother, and to some extent between me and my father, that I just don't want the world to know. Because I don't think they would ever forgive me.'

Harry also revealed his motivation to speak out so publicly against the Firm is to ultimately 'save [his family] from themselves'.

He detailed plans to derail the relationship between the Royal family and the press, expressing his belief that in doing so he can protect future divisions in the family.

After the dust has settled, he expressed a hope that he and Meghan can reconnect with his family - even if they don't particularly like his decision to share 'his truth'.

😂😂😂😂😂

Either way and in any event, William was too soft with him, far too soft!

He does realise to most people, ‘fixing’ the monarchy means getting rid of it right….

He does realise to most people, ‘fixing’ the monarchy means getting rid of it right….

Latest polls suggest most still support the monarchy. Fixing it for most would more likely mean removing titles from H&M

I wonder what the other cousins think of Harry’s behaviour now? Bringing the Wales kids into it again is such a low blow. I can’t imagine Zara, Beatrice etc. thinking this is ok.

legally the monarch has custody of the grandchildren. I can’t imagine KC to use this power; this would play out politically very badly with America. I also imagine this would only apply if they visited the U.K.

struck by a theme emerging from her posts "simplistic view" 'looking at the bigger picture' - suggesting a distinct hierarchy (oh the irony) in comprehension and insight. Posters on the thread disagreeing with her are just not insightful or capable enough of achieving true enlightenment - a divine right to pronounce.

There's a lot of cultish thinking behind much of modern discourse, particularly that based around critical theories, usually posited with a for us/against us, absolute believer/burn the heretic rhetoric.

Harry's latest utterances (this article and some of his statements in his interviews) show that he is firmly adopting this model and fancying himself as a de facto leader. Most leaders of cults are, as we know from history, absolute hypocrites. They are usually the complete opposite of everything their movement espouses; and their own rules don't apply to them.

All cult leaders seek to separate children from their parents' influence. It's common to every cult to brand non believers - especially family members - as suppressive, dangerous, beyond saving etc etc.

I suspect there's some brinksmanship going on here. If there isn't a big fat file on Harry of all the stuff he's done that the RF did manage to keep quiet, I will be very surprised. His book was a blow across the RF bows to show them he has little shame about talking about his own peccadillos, knowing that the stuffy old formal RF is embarrassed about the most trivial revelations about their private lives. He's self destructive, and he's daring them to pull the detonator and go down with him.

I would like Harry's supporters to answer honestly whether they would support him in his current quest if he was not married to a mixed race woman? Take Meghan's ethnicity out of the equation.

Harry has declared the monarchy to be not racist and that he supports the institution. He is not seeking constitutional change, a republic or anything like major reform.

Remember his past and proven racism - he's the only current member of the core RF who is an on the record racist. He supported and participated in a war that should never have happened, and talks about brown men defending their own country (no matter how reprehensible they might be) in inhuman terms.

He is a greedy man, whose complaints amount to little more than not receiving more money and prestige than his older brother. He has undoubtedly taken every penny he can from the royal and public purse, and would take more if he could, as well as a share in the questionable power and undoubted prestige that William will one day have.

He would like to suppress the press. The press is undoubtedly flawed, but most free speech advocates support an unfettered press.

And then there's all the other downright nasty, puerile, petty details of his life that he saw fit to put in a book, designed to harm his family, claiming enlightenment when he clearly has serious mental health issues and unresolved feelings towards his mother.

But for Meghan, but that he decided to marry a woman of colour, is Harry a man worth defending?

Oh. I wasn't talking from a legal standpoint. The monarch would never enact that right, neither abroad nor in the UK.
I was just talking from the point of view of a concerned relative, ie going to Court to attempt to remove his children to protect them and how that would make Harry feel. I'm not thinking that William would ever do it.

Excellent post.

Harry is coming across as nothing more than a bully. Possibly a brainwashed one. Or a drug addled one. But a bully nonetheless.

Im surprised at how anyone can defend him.

Superb post @Ridemeginger

Sorry? Why? I am me and hard though it is, I may have a different view on some of the H&M stuff than you. There is no need to suggest you are 'missing something' about me

I think it is, at best, unfair, and at worst, rude to suggest I coule be a troll or not coherent.

I don't go around questioning either of you two @sydneysunset and @MeghanAndTheSeals
I don't know you, I don't know your names or your posting history, so you are in the position of knowing my name and questioning me.

My views on the Monarchy are unchanged from what they have been for many many years. And now this is happening with Harry & Meghan I am listening and dissecting what I think about the situation. We are allowed different viewpoints on a forum, surely?

Has anyone actually read the book and not liked it? Coz everyone who has read it seems to like it except for Dan Wooton.

im currently reading ‘revenge’ by Tom bower and it’s very good though I note the bias.

I will read spare for balance but when there are second hand copies on sale so he doesn’t get the money.

I might them dip my toe into ‘finding freedom’ but think I might have had a bellyful by then.

I’m guessing he sees the book sales as a sign of support when in fact it’s just rubbernecking at a car crash.
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This 100%

I am amazed the amount of people that have bought the book tbh. I thought there was a cost of living crisis and people are saving their pennies.

This is an excellent post.

Were the usual supporters cheerleading for PH prior to MM being in the picture?

Is the warranted rage of how MM was treated by the tabloids conflated with and hiding the mess of an existing bitter, tedious, racist, ignorant, deluded fool - that the RF PR machine ironically kept hidden?

Or has he changed?

@Ridemeginger has got right to the heart of it.

It amazes me that his supporters still talk about H as if he's a naive young person not someone pushing 40, and how they will give endless leeway for his behaviour, because of his mother's death, but none at all to William.

I found the style(s) it's written in intensely annoying to read. Much of the content is quite interesting, some not in a good Way, but Harry's lack of self awareness is pretty profound. He thinks he has it all worked out, he's come to an understanding not just of himself but of other members of his family. He can change, learn and grow but no-one else is capable of doing the same

Before MM, Harry came across as cheeky and cheery, advocating for veterans with injuries/illness.

now his own words paint a very different picture - spoilt, angry, misogynistic and disablist. Oh, and a proven liar who thinks he knows better than everyone else. Especially his brother.

MM isn’t to blame for any of these. It’s all down to who Harry is.

the RF did a great job of painting his public image as a relatable man and hiding his insane jealousy. He’s ruined all that and made himself a laughing stock through his own words. Plonker.

Excellently put!!! I agree

I would say it is a combination of both. He was getting on with it in a way similar to many people who have gone through tough experiences in childhood. He was happier than he is now and holding it together. Despite not being very intelligent, he forged a career, learned some useful skills, had a few relationships.
Meghan's manipulation/validation/providing access and endorsing of the spiritual woo, the drugs, teas and potions (of which there are MANY) has addled his brain on a whole other level.

You see it a lot in LA and it's environs. The ONLY difference is that it does not usually involve British princes.

Meghan has been the one shown to be the consistent liar of the two. He is confused, deluded, now speaks her words through his voice (extremely common in echo codependency).

His ego is out of control. Why don't any of his enablers say enough now stfu.

He has no credibility whatsoever, so many holes in his gossipy trashy book that anything else he has to say will have people laughing at him.

He talked about his 'todger' in the same paragraph as his dm! he ridiculed a disabled lady, he has had senior military bosses and experts condemn him.

Respect to the royal household for keeping this fool under wraps for as long as they could, until somone came along and saw the kerrrrching factor.

The game is up Harold. I bet even Netflix are backing away.

I think they’re using each other equally. Harry is able to stick it to his family - something he’s wanted to do for years - under the guise of “protecting my wife” from the “unconsciously biased” 🙄 BRF.

I see today that Harry is demanding an apology from them “you know what you did, just come clean!” If an ex H was behaving this way towards his ex wife after a marriage break up, repeatedly publicly shaming and humiliating her and demanding she apologise publicly for her behaviour that only he is accusing her of, we’d be calling him a coercive abuser.

I think Meghan has met her match.

I’m sure Eugenie is distancing herself now. She’s the only one he seems to have a relationship with.

I liked the first half . The second half had a completely different tone , and I am convinced that the ghost writer gave up half way through or was sacked. The second half is really badly written, incoherent, rambling, disjointed. The time frame is all over the place. The trip to Africa is not mentioned at all. The lead up to them leaving is hardly dealt with. It’s like Harrys memory is fucked.
The writing style is that of an immature teenage boy in the second half. It’s embarrassing.
I think it is important to read it to know what is actually said and how.

Well said.