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notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 08:45

Are we all going to sidestep the fact that 'gold digger' Meghan was paying for everything.
'we don't have money for her'

She was paying for heaters, lights and sofas. You name it.
All the while we are being fed that she is a 'gold digger' who has come into a privileged family.

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MarshaMelrose · 16/01/2023 19:45

Doesn't Kate shop at Waitrose and The Range?

CathyorClaire · 16/01/2023 20:18

it's about it being his legal duty to provide it, as per the rules of the crown.

Please can you provide a link setting out senior royals' legal duties to family members and to the rules of the crown?

Lunde · 16/01/2023 21:14

ghjklo · 16/01/2023 11:47

@EpicChaos when you become a working royal, you give up your job in return for housing and living costs from the sovereign grant. That is what the grant is for. It covers more than a free house. There are other living costs associated - clothing, bills, security, transport etc etc. Edward, Anne, W & K all have these things paid for. Why should Charles single out M & H not to receive the living costs part of it (food, clothing, travel etc). It's not about the fact that they had a free house anyway - it's about it being his legal duty to provide it, as per the rules of the crown. If you can't understand how that's a dereliction of duty, and unfair then that is wilful ignorance. Charles said this the day before they got married!

So H&M were given Notts cottage (same as W&K who lived there longer with a baby). Then they were offered an apartment in KP (again same as W&K) the then current tenants were shuffled out and it was renovated for H&M. Then they decided they preferred to live in Windsor and were offered Frogmore that was renovated to their specifications before they decided to leave being working RF. I also read that Charles offered them a country estate but they turned it down.

Charles also contributed to the working and living expenses from the Duchy of Cornwall of both of his son's families to the tune of £5 million in financial year 2018-9. The figure of £2 million to the Sussex's has been quoted. There was also £4.5 million to his sons between April and June 2020 including a one-off sum to help them start their new lives

Harry himself complained in the Oprah interview that he had been "cut off" financially by his father in 2020 after he left the RF - so after this they just had his multi-million inheritances, her savings and their Netflix, Spotify and book incomes

notanotheroneagain · 16/01/2023 23:11

Can people stop going on about the 4.5M. We all know that never went down when H&M left. So, no, they were not getting half of that at 2.5M or so.

K&M also had other properties, one in Cornwall/Norfolk or wherever. Anyway, it's now 4 places.
H&M were supposed to get a place in Somerset or whatever, but the paps photographed everything, so this did not work out. So they moved to dinghy Frogmore - which needed renovations anyway, as they were old and offices - but they had to pay for it ultimately.

As for Kate, she has been spotted at shops like Harvey Nicks in Knightsbridge too.

As for H's payment, it sounds like they paid him for a previous year of work, but did not inform him that as he was doing his zoom calls (work, by other royals), he would not be paid for that. Then they unceremoniously cut his security and someone leaked his location.

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notanotheroneagain · 16/01/2023 23:15

Arsewangry · 13/01/2023 18:45

He was also left a sizeable sum by the queen mother, in fact she left him more than William as he would not likely become king. So I guess there's another little nest egg to fall back on. More than many of us could ever dream of in a lifetime.

Not too sure, according to Forbes and other financial papers, she was eyeballs deep in dept.

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notanotheroneagain · 16/01/2023 23:17

HaroldeVwilliam · 14/01/2023 10:07

I've not read the thread but I strongly suspect that Harry has been crystal clear about his lodgings/sofa's/and for a prince a relatively humble living standards to show precisely that.
This is what Megan saw ...not a Prince swishing about like Charles at highgrove!!

She was actually putting her hand into her self lined pocket.

However what's wrong with any of it .. nothing. Many couples start out in smaller more humble houses than they end up in later!
It's sweet.
I didn't see him complaining just being super clear that they weren't living in a sumptuous palace like we see in films?

I did not hear any 'complaining' either.

Just a narrative of events and what took place.

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Eyerollcentral · 17/01/2023 02:54

@notanotheroneagain Harry had a couple of million a year from his father, his army pension and an estimated £500,000 per year from the investment of the inheritance his inheritance from his mother….he was absolutely loaded. No real bills to pay out of that either, his home was paid for and he and his wife had a generous clothing allowance from Charles for royal family work. If he was so skint how was he able to pay for multiple flights to Canada, Meghan’s flights from Canada to London, flights to Botswana, the list goes on. You are mad to think there was no money. Harry’s ex girlfriend dumped him when he expected her to pay her own flights to his friend’s wedding. He is tight AF but he isn’t skint by any one’s measure.
The queen mother had debt but she had a huge estate to leave to her descendants.

Morestrangethings · 17/01/2023 06:40

HoppingPavlova · 13/01/2023 09:40

Although I did read somewhere that William/Kate’s kids bedrooms were furnished from Ikea, so maybe it’s become the preferred brand for royal residences 🤣.

Haha, I don’t think either Kate or William put it together though.

Ridemeginger · 17/01/2023 08:07

notanotheroneagain · 16/01/2023 23:15

Not too sure, according to Forbes and other financial papers, she was eyeballs deep in dept.

Is that why there was a sinister plot around her death? Did the Queen declare, "'Orf with her head!" when the Queen Mum lost a bundle on the 2.15 at Ascot?

Morestrangethings · 17/01/2023 08:09

WaddleAway · 13/01/2023 14:57

OP do you genuinely think H&M had so little access to cash that all they could afford was an IKEA sofa on credit? Do you think that prior to buying that sofa Harry had been sitting on the floor?

Possibly he sat on the floor (did Kate &William take their Ikea furniture when they left?), or had the Ikea furniture (that Kate and William left behind them? ) just seen much better days. I assume K&W took the Ikea nursery furniture that they use, (as reported here on mn).

Morestrangethings · 17/01/2023 08:14

Ridemeginger · 17/01/2023 08:07

Is that why there was a sinister plot around her death? Did the Queen declare, "'Orf with her head!" when the Queen Mum lost a bundle on the 2.15 at Ascot?

I read years ago that the Queen Mum was big in debt to the bank (about 6 million pound at the time) but the bank were never going to ask for it back. Who knows if it was true, but I sort of admire the old lady if she did. And yes, (The bank would have recouped it after her death, most likely).

ArnoldBee · 17/01/2023 08:18

Harry states himself in the book that he had a brown sofa. I suspect like many things that have come to light that Meghan didn't know how things worked she she was an outsider and Harry didn't tell her!

Patineur · 17/01/2023 08:23

Can people stop going on about the 4.5M. We all know that never went down when H&M left. So, no, they were not getting half of that at 2.5M or so.

No, we don't know any such thing.

H&M were supposed to get a place in Somerset or whatever, but the paps photographed everything, so this did not work out. So they moved to dinghy Frogmore

Frogmore is not a boat.

Damnautocorrect · 17/01/2023 09:50

Frogmore is probably worth about the same as anmer due to its location.

mixedrecycling · 17/01/2023 09:51

From the BBC in 2002 (news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1993665.stm):
'In 1994, the Queen Mother reportedly put aside two-thirds of her money into a trust fund for her great grandchildren.'

Once it was in a trust fund it was not available to cover debts.

Of course, this is still 'reportedly' - but it seems likely and quite normal among the wealthy to preserve their wealth. 'Reportedly' Catherine and her siblings benefitted from a trust fund set up by a great (and another great?) grandparent that paid their school fees.

So perfectly possible that H has inherited millions from the QM (whether the capital or the interest) AND the QM had debts when she died.

Damnautocorrect · 17/01/2023 09:59

notanotheroneagain · 16/01/2023 23:11

Can people stop going on about the 4.5M. We all know that never went down when H&M left. So, no, they were not getting half of that at 2.5M or so.

K&M also had other properties, one in Cornwall/Norfolk or wherever. Anyway, it's now 4 places.
H&M were supposed to get a place in Somerset or whatever, but the paps photographed everything, so this did not work out. So they moved to dinghy Frogmore - which needed renovations anyway, as they were old and offices - but they had to pay for it ultimately.

As for Kate, she has been spotted at shops like Harvey Nicks in Knightsbridge too.

As for H's payment, it sounds like they paid him for a previous year of work, but did not inform him that as he was doing his zoom calls (work, by other royals), he would not be paid for that. Then they unceremoniously cut his security and someone leaked his location.

I am enjoying the accuracy of this post.
”whatever”
”wherever”

good factual points.

they had to pay for the renovations as they left, the house comes with the job. Like school caretakers used to get a house on the grounds. They were renovations as it was multiple flats and offices converted into one large home. Had they stayed working, they would not have had to pay. It was the fact the tax payers paid for a wedding, renovations (we still had paid the cost of work to the structure, just not the decorations etc) and then two years later they moaned their bollocks off, and fucked off.

ive actually seen frogmore cottage (long story). It’s beautiful and not dinghy or dingy.

there’s no way their main home would be Somerset, it would be like anmer. a private residence. They would remain in a london (or windsor) base, so presumably the KP flat they were having renovated. Which ironically, everyone knows the location of. So it’s not a security risk people knowing where the house is. - see also the raising of the standard when the monarch is in residence.

… or whatever.

Damnautocorrect · 17/01/2023 10:01

During the IRA bombing campaign and after Mountbatten died, security was upped in every royal residence or place they spent time. This meant a few minor royals having to move out of their homes as they couldn’t be secured.

security is not about it being a secret location. It’s about being able to secure the property.

3points · 17/01/2023 10:05

I know the conversation has moved on since but regarding the why is she paying when he's a millionaire, well it's a classic move when you're seeing a rich guy. You insist on paying, you insist on splitting the bill, you show him that you are frugal or at least sensible with money (ex display sofa, Ikea furniture... ) to give the impression that you aren't after his money and don't expect to be bankrolled. It's a way to gain a rich man's trust. Add on it the fact that he isn't a self made rich man nor a an ordinary rich man, he is a Royal who could go shopping without a wallet, he doesn't even need to SEE a note or a coin to get something. It's a totally nouvelle concept. You can see how he saw the sun shine out of her arse. His expectations and understanding of real life is incredibly poor due to his 'bubble' life.

notanotheroneagain · 17/01/2023 10:09

I know the conversation has moved on since but regarding the why is she paying when he's a millionaire, well it's a classic move when you're seeing a rich guy.

Oh please, a gold digger doesn't do that for any number of years, let alone 6yrs. They cut their losses as soon as they think the guy is tight. Months at the most.

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Damnautocorrect · 17/01/2023 10:13

notanotheroneagain · 17/01/2023 10:09

I know the conversation has moved on since but regarding the why is she paying when he's a millionaire, well it's a classic move when you're seeing a rich guy.

Oh please, a gold digger doesn't do that for any number of years, let alone 6yrs. They cut their losses as soon as they think the guy is tight. Months at the most.

And who bought the house they have now?
whose name is it in?

3points · 17/01/2023 10:17

notanotheroneagain · 17/01/2023 10:09

I know the conversation has moved on since but regarding the why is she paying when he's a millionaire, well it's a classic move when you're seeing a rich guy.

Oh please, a gold digger doesn't do that for any number of years, let alone 6yrs. They cut their losses as soon as they think the guy is tight. Months at the most.

Well, firstly I never suggested in my post that Harry is tight. A rich guy can be generous but still in the back of his mind might wonder if there is an ulterior motive. Same with very famous guys.

Secondly, they dated on the quiet for less than 6 months, news was publicised and then got engaged a year after their first date. So when you say a gold digger would bolt in a couple of months, actually when the prize is as big as Harry, I think any gold digger would easily wait this long and longer.

notanotheroneagain · 17/01/2023 10:18

they had to pay for the renovations as they left, the house comes with the job. Like school caretakers used to get a house on the grounds. They were renovations as it was multiple flats and offices converted into one large home. Had they stayed working, they would not have had to pay.

Whatever, indeed.

No caretakers pay for renovation to have the house with good standards to live in. Dicky Arbiter who has been to Frogmore (having worked for the palace for years), also came on TV and admitted that the house had not been touched in decades. He mentioned rusty pipes and problems, so Frogmore was already earmarked for due renovations.

If the caretaker stops working, they can pay rent to carry on living at the premises, what they don't do is pay millions for due renovations - and H&M are still reportedly paying that rent on top of the re-imbursement.

As for the wedding that you are all harping on about, it was already reported ages ago that they wanted a small wedding and were not granted it.

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3points · 17/01/2023 10:19

Damnautocorrect · 17/01/2023 10:13

And who bought the house they have now?
whose name is it in?

It doesn't matter now. She's secured him, they are married.
The whole sing and dance act of going halves and being frugal is before you secure the rich guy. Come on, keep up!

Damnautocorrect · 17/01/2023 11:08

3points · 17/01/2023 10:19

It doesn't matter now. She's secured him, they are married.
The whole sing and dance act of going halves and being frugal is before you secure the rich guy. Come on, keep up!

Oh yeah that was my point.
he bought the house. Put it in her name.
that is a very well played game.

Damnautocorrect · 17/01/2023 11:10

notanotheroneagain · 17/01/2023 10:18

they had to pay for the renovations as they left, the house comes with the job. Like school caretakers used to get a house on the grounds. They were renovations as it was multiple flats and offices converted into one large home. Had they stayed working, they would not have had to pay.

Whatever, indeed.

No caretakers pay for renovation to have the house with good standards to live in. Dicky Arbiter who has been to Frogmore (having worked for the palace for years), also came on TV and admitted that the house had not been touched in decades. He mentioned rusty pipes and problems, so Frogmore was already earmarked for due renovations.

If the caretaker stops working, they can pay rent to carry on living at the premises, what they don't do is pay millions for due renovations - and H&M are still reportedly paying that rent on top of the re-imbursement.

As for the wedding that you are all harping on about, it was already reported ages ago that they wanted a small wedding and were not granted it.

As I said.
It’s a crown property so the tax payer paid for the renovations to protect the property. (Bear in mind staff were living in it, so it wasn’t uninhabitable).
H and M paid for the decorations.