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notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 08:45

Are we all going to sidestep the fact that 'gold digger' Meghan was paying for everything.
'we don't have money for her'

She was paying for heaters, lights and sofas. You name it.
All the while we are being fed that she is a 'gold digger' who has come into a privileged family.

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notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 15:54

Lunde · 13/01/2023 12:27

Harry received an annual allowance from his dad. In the financial year 2018-2019 the then Prince Charles paid £5 million to the Cambridges and Sussexes to cover official duties and private expenses - so say the H&M got around £2million .... that's a lot of "work clothes". H&M also received some money from the Sovereign grant.
www.bbc.com/news/explainers-51047186

Charles continued to pay them a "substantial sum" to support their transition to independence after they left the RF

Harry also inherited millions from Diana and the Queen Mother

.... and he got housing, housekeeping, maintenance, gardening and security totally free of charge

Funny you should bring up the BBC.
I'm still quite annoyed by them being the PR arm of the Royal Family. Why am I paying my license for that?

Even the story you link is very biased.

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HaroldandWilly · 13/01/2023 15:57

@notanotheroneagain oh you absolutely did, when you said this...

No she ran a mile when she realised that H has no control over his finances.
Though I do find it weird that this white blond woman was not in the slightest implied as such, while the woman of colour was seen as such.

Yawn. Nothing to do with either woman's skin colour. Why would anyone think to imply that a multimillionaire business woman with their own very large inheritance, be a gold digger. A social climbing actress, already on the hunt for an English footballer boyfriend, on the other hand?

coconotgrove · 13/01/2023 16:01

notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 15:17

I think the whole point is that the papers and people (like posters on here) have been going on about how privileged and rich they are.

Their NotCot is paramount to a mews house in central London. One of my neighbours uses this as a 'tack storage' room not even for the horses, but for the horse gear. Another it's a garage, another worker's quarters, and so forth. But we have been made to believe that H&M are hugely privileged. MM's own place in Toronto seems to have been better. Definitely not as rich as some central Londoners are.

People happed on about how MM was a 'gold digger' who came to live this luxurious life. That is not the case.

Also H was put up in 'workers quarters' at some stage. I feel more privileged than he was.

I beg to differ but NC is not paramount to a mews house in central London, and I say this with absolute certainty having spent most of my teens in a mews house just behind Marylebone High street. Yes, some use them as tack rooms, others as garages, but for many they are homes. While visually very different from the standard period terrace, mews houses are also in essence, terraces too, as none of the home are detached. It is often worth nothing that many mews in London offer a cut through for traffic and pedestrians alike, so hardly as peaceful or secluded as NC.

While NC is a small house, it is completely detached and within the grounds of Kensington Palace. These two things alone make it incomparable to any London mews house, and also far more valuable.

While MM's Toronto home was more spacious, and more luxurious in terms of furnishings, with regards to social status, it's not comparable to NC either. As a royal residence, and situated within the grounds of a larger royal residence, there are very few privately owned residential properties in London that compare.

Am sure H had no issue with his home until he saw it through M's eyes.

Patineur · 13/01/2023 16:01

notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 15:40

It's well attested that it's a detached Christopher Wren house with over 1320 square feet, compared with the average UK square footage of 818 square feet. That's not a mews house, which is typically a small terrace property which will nevertheless cost in the region of £2 million in central London and will be far from tack storage space. Have a look at these, for example..

No doubt about that, it's overpriced.
But I was putting in contest how Central London works. That we are being led to believe that this couple are ungrateful whilst living in unimaginable wealth, splendour and luxury. That is not true according to even their 'pleb' neighbours.

Also 80sqm is not that much.

What is the relevance of 80 square metres? Nott Cott is over 120 square metres. Whether it's "not that much" or not, it's still well above the size of the average house in the UK. Why are we supposed to feel sorry for them for living free in something considerably larger than the houses we are paying for? And with the offer of an apartment in KP and Frogmore House as well into the bargain?

notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 16:02

next post - my dressing room is bigger than Frogmore Cottage? Oh the humanity!!!

You have to ask Camilla to give you details on this, since she used Harry's room as a dressing room.

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Patineur · 13/01/2023 16:05

Why am I paying my license for that?

No-one is making you pay a TV licence fee, OP. By contrast, however, you have no choice about paying for the commercial stations whenever you buy the goods they advertise, so the Beeb is a bargain in all the circumstances.

CathyorClaire · 13/01/2023 16:09

Wasn't Frogmorr renovated to the cost of a few million by the tax payer? Although they are planning paid it back I believe as the media went with it.

There was a much trumpeted repayment of the refurb costs.

What often appears to be overlooked is the way the sum repaid suddenly included eighteen months market rent without actually increasing.

notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 16:23

I beg to differ but NC is not paramount to a mews house in central London, and I say this with absolute certainty having spent most of my teens in a mews house just behind Marylebone High street. Yes, some use them as tack rooms, others as garages, but for many they are homes. While visually very different from the standard period terrace, mews houses are also in essence, terraces too, as none of the home are detached. It is often worth nothing that many mews in London offer a cut through for traffic and pedestrians alike, so hardly as peaceful or secluded as NC.

No, no, no. I have already clarified it that a mews house could be a full home with 3 dc at another thread. Not looking down on that at all. Costs a fortune.

But, I was putting it in context of how we were supposed to imagine H&M as incredibly privileged, living the high life in large palaces. That is what was sold to us. That is why I say this.

As you will well know by where you grew up, that people in London will smash together 3 townhouses to make it into one. The nanny will have the whole floor all to themselves, the basement will be turned into a personal pool and gym etc.

We were made to believe that the RF were financially (and in other ways ) way above these people.

That is not the case.

Also most mews are either cul de sac or cobble narrow lanes, so very few traffic go through them. And some houses in London also have a private automated gate/ security, so you don't just walk in. As you well know.

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JonahCL9 · 13/01/2023 16:27

Well having just popped over to read the 'macabre and sinister' cliff hanger about QM's death -- I'm agog. Plus the threat of PH reaping us away like a vengeful demon if the aforementioned macabre and sinister cliff hanger is revealed

Blossomtoes · 13/01/2023 16:28

We were made to believe that the RF were financially (and in other ways ) way above these people.

Were we? The Queen was worth about £350 million, the only person who would consider that chicken feed is Sunak. It’s pretty bloody obvious that the RF is better off than just about all of us.

BabyFour2023 · 13/01/2023 16:29

She had to put ikea furniture on a CC… I don’t think she’s bankrolled the relationship.

Serenster · 13/01/2023 16:33

We were made to believe that the RF were financially (and in other ways ) way above these people.

You may think that, the rest of us saw the Queen having her breakfast in Tupperware containers, a three-bar electric heater in her room in Balmoral, Prince Anne’s decidedly cluttered and dated living room etc. etc.

The Royal Family are very, very asset rich, absolutely. They have a huge collection of antique furniture and objets d’arts. They live and work in huge and historic palaces and houses. They wear super expensive historic jewels. But, by and large, they don’t have an “everything must be gold-plated!” mindset. Other monarchies do that (the Sultan of Brunei is a good example - the business class toilets on Royal Brunei Airlines are gold plated!). But the British Royal family not so much.

(also, since this is the third time it’s cropped up, it’s tantamount not paramount)

Ridemeginger · 13/01/2023 16:36

What on earth are you blathering on about, OP. Who is the "we" in We were made to believe that the RF were financially (and in other ways ) way above these people. ?

Whatever you might have been led to believe, it's not a secret that the younger royal couples have moved between what are, in effect, starter homes until they have families and need bigger spaces. What is so outrageous about this? Kate, William and George lived at NotCot. Why wasn't it good enough for H&M in the interim - that is all it ever was, a temporary home. Even the lovely Kensington Palace is broken up into apartments, grand through they may be. I think it always has been. Anyone expecting to get a whole castle is a fool - or was told a load of lies by their idiot other half.

RedToothBrush · 13/01/2023 16:37

notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 16:23

I beg to differ but NC is not paramount to a mews house in central London, and I say this with absolute certainty having spent most of my teens in a mews house just behind Marylebone High street. Yes, some use them as tack rooms, others as garages, but for many they are homes. While visually very different from the standard period terrace, mews houses are also in essence, terraces too, as none of the home are detached. It is often worth nothing that many mews in London offer a cut through for traffic and pedestrians alike, so hardly as peaceful or secluded as NC.

No, no, no. I have already clarified it that a mews house could be a full home with 3 dc at another thread. Not looking down on that at all. Costs a fortune.

But, I was putting it in context of how we were supposed to imagine H&M as incredibly privileged, living the high life in large palaces. That is what was sold to us. That is why I say this.

As you will well know by where you grew up, that people in London will smash together 3 townhouses to make it into one. The nanny will have the whole floor all to themselves, the basement will be turned into a personal pool and gym etc.

We were made to believe that the RF were financially (and in other ways ) way above these people.

That is not the case.

Also most mews are either cul de sac or cobble narrow lanes, so very few traffic go through them. And some houses in London also have a private automated gate/ security, so you don't just walk in. As you well know.

Are you American who think all Brits live in houses like on Paddington Bear?

The book is clearly pitched at Americans who believe this.

To Brits it just makes him look like an insufferable rich wanker who hasn't got a clue how anyone else lives.

1300sq ft for a couple in central London is decent before you factor in it being detached and in a nice setting. Or a period property.

The fact he didn't appreciate any of thing just makes him a bellend.

We can go round and round with this argument like the one about his responsibility taking. It still comes back to him being an ungrateful whiner who doesn't understand what he has been given.

He compares himself constantly. But only to people he sees as his peers. Never to anyone below him. And that's the grate that the British Public are always going to go 'you fucking what' to.

'I'm like you and buy shirts from txmaxx but he'll why should I actually have to live to these awfully low standards' is the message which he's not managed to see the cognitive dissonance in (like the op). Everyone else just sees straight through the humble bragging to the real beef that he felt he was being forced to slum it and not live in the manner his rank demands.

Oh do fuck off.

SleepingStandingUp · 13/01/2023 16:45

notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 15:01

I absolutely did not.
Though I do find it weird that this white blond woman was not in the slightest implied as such, while the woman of colour was seen as such.

Surely the difference is their respective networths and probably more importantly their families networths. Chelsea had far more financial security than Meghan could ever have as unmarried women.

Xenia · 13/01/2023 17:00

Yes to this "You may think that, the rest of us saw the Queen having her breakfast in Tupperware containers, a three-bar electric heater in her room in Balmoral, Prince Anne’s decidedly cluttered and dated living room etc. etc." Lots of those in the UK with inherited titles have lots of land but not much money and are happy to use handed down furniture, tupperware etc. Also the royal family are in a sense trustees holding land etc for the nation and future royals and do not always have that much ready cash.

WinnieFosterReads · 13/01/2023 17:04

Sometimes I think certain posters sole knowledge of the UK and the RF is based on Netflix romcoms and Disney princesses. And instead of being embarrassed at that lack of knowledge, they argue they're right. It's absolutely baffling.

PinkTonic · 13/01/2023 17:08

Serenster · 13/01/2023 11:39

I had thought the Cartier jewellery was said to be her wedding gift from Charles? Kate got a similar diamond bracelet/necklace/earrings set on her wedding.

Catherine’s parents bought her diamond wedding earrings

Serenster · 13/01/2023 17:56

Catherine’s parents bought her diamond wedding earrings

Yes - she didn’t wear Charles’ (alleged) gifts on wedding day. She is shown in the bracelet and earrings here.

Meghan's credit card
notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 18:03

Serenster · 13/01/2023 16:33

We were made to believe that the RF were financially (and in other ways ) way above these people.

You may think that, the rest of us saw the Queen having her breakfast in Tupperware containers, a three-bar electric heater in her room in Balmoral, Prince Anne’s decidedly cluttered and dated living room etc. etc.

The Royal Family are very, very asset rich, absolutely. They have a huge collection of antique furniture and objets d’arts. They live and work in huge and historic palaces and houses. They wear super expensive historic jewels. But, by and large, they don’t have an “everything must be gold-plated!” mindset. Other monarchies do that (the Sultan of Brunei is a good example - the business class toilets on Royal Brunei Airlines are gold plated!). But the British Royal family not so much.

(also, since this is the third time it’s cropped up, it’s tantamount not paramount)

What do you suppose is the whole point of a royal family? Why is not Gemma, Sue, Garry from down the road etc.?
Why are they not, nor you for that matter, royals?
The narrative is that they are pure and above everyone by birth. Above everyone else (not what I believe obviously).
Anointed to be Head of the Church of England ?

Other posters. Don't try to re-write history. We is the public, being fed how entitled and grand this family is. Everyone going on about how MM should be grateful to join them etc.

So did the queen have 500M and the richest woman in the world? Or was the a lie?

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notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 18:07

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WinnieFosterReads · 13/01/2023 18:14

I'm sure it's not relevant at all. But someone mentioned on another Royal thread that the MN obsessives on Reddit are trolling the RF board. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that there's been two threads today about Harry being a pauper rather than a prince.

Countdown2023 · 13/01/2023 18:15

Which version of the truth are we in now?

Blossomtoes · 13/01/2023 18:17

notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 18:03

What do you suppose is the whole point of a royal family? Why is not Gemma, Sue, Garry from down the road etc.?
Why are they not, nor you for that matter, royals?
The narrative is that they are pure and above everyone by birth. Above everyone else (not what I believe obviously).
Anointed to be Head of the Church of England ?

Other posters. Don't try to re-write history. We is the public, being fed how entitled and grand this family is. Everyone going on about how MM should be grateful to join them etc.

So did the queen have 500M and the richest woman in the world? Or was the a lie?

That isn’t the narrative at all. Nobody, except perhaps Harry, thinks they’re pure or above us. The Queen wasn’t even the richest woman in the UK, let alone the world. So, yes, it was a lie.

MarshaMelrose · 13/01/2023 18:25

notanotheroneagain · 13/01/2023 15:33

With what? From when?

We do know that some couple did re-do a kitchen worth a lot and moved a tennis court a few inches and gilded their driveway at taxpayer cost. Millions I believe.

We also know that H&M paid for out of their pockets for certain things, including any 'upgrades' like s certain type of wood etc on the floor as well as ........well, the whole renovation for a house that was falling apart that does not belong to them.

As ever, you're wrong. All renovation costs of Amner Hall were paid for out of private money. Unlike Frogmore which is crown estate and therefore was renovated from money from the sovereign grant, Amner Hall was a private purchase and so did not have public money spent on it. H&M rightly paid for upgrades privately. The sovereign grant is to keep the building fabric in a sound condition.