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To think Harry is really ill based on recent comments he's made?

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OhMonDieux · 11/01/2023 10:47

I'm thinking of how he accuses the media of putting a spin on his comments about killing 25 men.

He says it's been taken out of context.
Does he even know what that means?

If the lines we read were quoted directly from the book, where is the spin? Yes, it may have been part of a bigger picture of (as he alludes to) helping soldiers overcome PTSD .

BUT he still gave a 'body count' and spoke of them as chess pieces (all of which the Army has said is not how they teach soldiers to think.)

Even if- and it's a big 'if' - the intention was good behind relating his war experiences, someone ought to have edited the book. He should have had advice from the military, rather than relying on a ghost writer.

He appears to be in complete denial about anything he does and the fault is always someone else's.

So sad, really, and how his father is coping I have no idea.

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GFP · 11/01/2023 10:57

Whatever the context and his intention of writing that, I think he has put himself and his family in more danger - not from the RF or press - but from extremist groups. I can’t see how he hasn’t.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 11/01/2023 11:00

GFP · 11/01/2023 10:57

Whatever the context and his intention of writing that, I think he has put himself and his family in more danger - not from the RF or press - but from extremist groups. I can’t see how he hasn’t.

But will claim it’s the ‘media’s’ fault for taking it out of context.

OhMonDieux · 11/01/2023 11:00

I agree but he's trying to make it everyone else's fault.

He does come over as mentally about 13. Teenagers who say 'you made me do it!' and take no responsibility for their choices.

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Rowthe · 11/01/2023 11:01

I think hes been smoking too much weed.

It is well known to cause long term psychiatric problems.

It can cause paranoia, affect trust in people, affect memories- he seems to be having problems remembering things.

AnnieFarmer · 11/01/2023 11:04

I think he is vulnerable and impressionable and is being exploited.

ConsistentlyClumsy · 11/01/2023 11:09

I get he may be joking on this on the below, but this passage is really messed up - particularly when he says 'on my orders', like some weird power trip about not killing his father.

I think it proves he has been dangerous/mentally unstable for quite some time.

To think Harry is really ill based on recent comments he's made?
Tripofalifetime343 · 11/01/2023 11:13

I think he is obviously under stress as anyone would be in this situation , but I think he is fine, the tabloid press are twisting his words massively for money, and I think there are a suspiciously large number of threads being started about his mental health.

Bestcatmum · 11/01/2023 11:13

I was anti Harry to start with but that was largely because of the media spin. I should have stuck by my usual: read both sides then decide. I'm half way through the book and I've actually changed my mind. I haven't got as far as Meghan yet it's mostly his army days. He doesn't just come out with I've killed 25 taliban, that's not what the book says at all. It is totally taken out of context.
Of course anyone can pick holes - do you remember what you did since age 9? In microscopic detail, There will be some things that were maybe remembered differently.
I just came away with the feeling of overwhelming sadness. The brothers were never close that's yet more media bullshit.
I will continue reading, I would probably have done it differently to him, I have a pretty toxic family and my response to that was to just move a long way away and get on with my life. But we're all different. I have complex PTSD myself so I can relate to some of his reactions which may have seemed over the top. Therapy didn't do anything for me but medication helps and self education.

jtaeapa · 11/01/2023 11:16

He is seriously ill. But he seems to be pretty horrible as well. I thought the Pat comments were disgusting and showed him up as ignorant and spiteful. He is like a child, never taking responsibility for anything - there’s always someone else to blame.

GFP · 11/01/2023 11:21

However the media do/don’t spin it, he has publicly stated he killed insurgents undisputed fact - during a war which has been deemed illegal by international law. WOW! Everything else to one side just how shit are his advisors and how naive is he to not think extremist groups are going to react to that.

Cherry60 · 11/01/2023 11:21

ConsistentlyClumsy · 11/01/2023 11:09

I get he may be joking on this on the below, but this passage is really messed up - particularly when he says 'on my orders', like some weird power trip about not killing his father.

I think it proves he has been dangerous/mentally unstable for quite some time.

Wtaf??

BlueKaftan · 11/01/2023 11:23

He’s not ill. Wtf is wrong with you for even suggesting such a thing. He’s been bullied and gaslighted by his family and the powerful media. Why don’t you get that?

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 11/01/2023 11:24

BlueKaftan · 11/01/2023 11:23

He’s not ill. Wtf is wrong with you for even suggesting such a thing. He’s been bullied and gaslighted by his family and the powerful media. Why don’t you get that?

Came here to say exactly this. Making out the victim is crazy is abuser tactics 101.

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 11/01/2023 11:25

A N Wilson is off comparing Harry to Hitler. Weird how none of Harry's detractors have any sense of shame or proportion :/

HaveYouSeenNancy · 11/01/2023 11:26

ConsistentlyClumsy · 11/01/2023 11:09

I get he may be joking on this on the below, but this passage is really messed up - particularly when he says 'on my orders', like some weird power trip about not killing his father.

I think it proves he has been dangerous/mentally unstable for quite some time.

Wow - the last few sentences of this are really strange. Well all of it is really, but especially that his dad had been targeted and subsequently spared on his orders.

Swissmountains · 11/01/2023 11:27

He typed out the body count, he called them 'chess pieces'

Now he is being called to account, and it has been pointed out the danger he has put everyone in, he is blaming the media, as usual.

I thought he might be mentally unwell at first, as I couldn't fathom how he could blow up his life like this.

Now I am consider him to be a psychopath.

We were (mis)sold a funny, warm lovely Harry by his aides, I suspect he has always been like this - look at his glee at explaining how he tortured and mocked his disabled matron. This is who he is, as difficult as it is to look at.

vera99 · 11/01/2023 11:27

BlueKaftan · 11/01/2023 11:23

He’s not ill. Wtf is wrong with you for even suggesting such a thing. He’s been bullied and gaslighted by his family and the powerful media. Why don’t you get that?

On his last legs a raving loony SEE FOR YOURSELF !

Theeaglesoared · 11/01/2023 11:29

No one who is happy and at peace writes a book like that. He must be a nightmare to live with. I actually feel sorry for Meghan.

Acheyknees · 11/01/2023 11:31

Whether he's ill or not, he's being very, very poorly advised. He's a nearly 40 year old father.Time to stop the therapy and throw himself into some hard work and build a life for his family away from all this bitterness.

Badbadbunny · 11/01/2023 11:32

I think he's got himself torn between MM and the RF and has lost any sense of reality. MM is clearly manipulative and controlling. You could argue the RF are the same. He's piggy in the middle and I think he's starting to lose it. If he's not careful he'll burn his bridges with both and end up on his own.

MM needs money for her lifestyle (the Suits money will have long run out), so Harry has to be her bank card. He's got nothing to offer other than selling his soul to the media, and there's only so many times he can do it. Once he's bared his soul, there's nothing more and the media won't keep bankrolling him.

That's probably when it will all fall apart. I wouldn't be surprised if MM divorces him and finds someone else to bank roll her Hollywood lifestyle, and then he's left with nothing!

Swissmountains · 11/01/2023 11:32

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 11/01/2023 11:24

Came here to say exactly this. Making out the victim is crazy is abuser tactics 101.

You have been sucked in.
Harry is the persecutor.
He is selling very private and unkind stories about his family
He is hurting them by taunting them during interviews

The victims are in fact the royal family. He has relentlessly cashed in on attacking them.

Harry is the liar, and every single thing he says he either back peddles, contradicts himself in the following interview and/or it is proved to be a complete lie.

It really worries me that people actually believe what he is saying. He is deranged.

Theeaglesoared · 11/01/2023 11:32

BlueKaftan · 11/01/2023 11:23

He’s not ill. Wtf is wrong with you for even suggesting such a thing. He’s been bullied and gaslighted by his family and the powerful media. Why don’t you get that?

But he could have retreated somewhere quietly and lived a simple life. That's what most people would do.

But no - he chose a wife who craves attention, status and money. An odd thing to do if you want to shield yourself from the media.

It is never going to end well.

Swissmountains · 11/01/2023 11:37

The worst part for me, is that I don't think they have even got started yet.

This book is one of three.
Then Meghan's memoirs after that.

An angry psychopath hellbent on settling scores will not know when to stop, does not possess any awareness - and will indeed not even register the pain he is causing. He is dangerously unaware of the plight of veterans and their safety, cold indifference to his children caught up in the cross hairs, sniping at his family for kicks - he is indeed a very dangerous man on a mission (and being paid well) to continue this fight. I truly believe we haven't seen anything yet.

bizzywiththefizzy · 11/01/2023 11:40

Harry is no expert on treating soldiers on PTSD so really is a poor defence and made up on the go .
Does Harry really see himself as an expert on this ?

Spyral · 11/01/2023 11:40

Swissmountains · 11/01/2023 11:32

You have been sucked in.
Harry is the persecutor.
He is selling very private and unkind stories about his family
He is hurting them by taunting them during interviews

The victims are in fact the royal family. He has relentlessly cashed in on attacking them.

Harry is the liar, and every single thing he says he either back peddles, contradicts himself in the following interview and/or it is proved to be a complete lie.

It really worries me that people actually believe what he is saying. He is deranged.

YOU have been sucked in.

It astounds me just how many people in the UK are so gullible and so easily manipulated by the tabloid narrative. Although I should not really be surprised any longer since Brexit.

The newspapers out to attack PH by misrepresenting how he covered this subject in his book, are the same ones that, in 2013, reported stories of how he killed Taliban members and hailed him as hero for doing it. Complete hypocrisy. Which ridiculous numbers of people are falling for.