To think Harry is really ill based on recent comments he's made?

[OhMonDieux]

I'm thinking of how he accuses the media of putting a spin on his comments about killing 25 men.

He says it's been taken out of context.
Does he even know what that means?

If the lines we read were quoted directly from the book, where is the spin? Yes, it may have been part of a bigger picture of (as he alludes to) helping soldiers overcome PTSD .

BUT he still gave a 'body count' and spoke of them as chess pieces (all of which the Army has said is not how they teach soldiers to think.)

Even if- and it's a big 'if' - the intention was good behind relating his war experiences, someone ought to have edited the book. He should have had advice from the military, rather than relying on a ghost writer.

He appears to be in complete denial about anything he does and the fault is always someone else's.

So sad, really, and how his father is coping I have no idea.

Yes, I've notice with Harry, that everything is always someone else's fault.

I'm guessing it's the victim mindset.

I feel like he IS joking, but the mindset you must have to be in to joke about things like that, in that way, is worrying in itself.

This is exactly how I see it too. I didn't read that segment and think it really happened, because of course it didn't. But it happened in Harry's head, and that means he's completely delusional.

Someone on another thread said that Harry has undergone regression therapy under hypnosis and wondered if he has false memories. The poster also said his therapist was actually sitting next to him off screen when he was being filmed but gave no proof.

I did hear an interesting broadcast on the radio yesterday from a psychologist analysing Harry. She said he’d reduced everyone in his lives to either good or bad with no nuance. The language that he is using is very Disneyesque or from a Marvel film, eg his brother being his arch nemesis. That he sees only his pain and not the others around him and that he has no concept that they have any emotions or are living, breathing people with their own lives and struggles. She was asked what therapy she would use if he were her client and said he needed deep work, also suggesting hypnosis. I wish I could play it back it was so interesting. Her name is Lucia something and she’s Italian with a surname ending in i. I’ve done a search and the name I came up with was Dr Lucia Giombini. Not 100% sure if it was her.

The problem is that he is a traitor to people who had a right to their privacy and a right to refuse to be sold to the highest bidder

Quite, but never mind eh? Just so long as they can be used to Harry's own advantage, even if that involves an account of mocking the disabled without any suggestion of later regret

I've just read this extract.

I can't fathom it out.

So H says that he was messing about on a quad bike. And a typhoon appeared in the sky.

His father, Charles, thought it might be H in the Typhoon as it was flying low over Highgrove. ) Hmm- as if- just out for a jaunt?

So C went over to see H and found him on his quad bike talking to the RAF pilot in his Typhoon.

Really?

Please tell me how someone on the ground (off duty and on a quad bike) can talk to a Typhoon pilot who's flying in the area.

Because that's how it reads.

Ok so an amendment to my post- the pilot was flying over Sandringham.

But my comments still stand.

Harry was messing about on a quad bike but giving 'orders' to the pilot and 'joked' with him to target his father in the 'gray' Audi. Just joking of course.

The pilot swooped low over C and missed (of course) but went on to blow up a barn.

I wonder how H was ever let near a real chopper or anything with wings if this is his idea of humour.

NONE of us know who is victim or perpetrator here. Only Harry's version of events is being told, the RF I doubt will ever comment. But for posters here to be accusing each other or being 'naive' and 'sucked in' is ridiculous. How on earth would you ever know who's right and who's wrong?! None of us were ever there!

I don't think I'd say he's "really ill", but who knows? Certainly none of us!

But yeah, he seems to have some mental issue because of his shitty (and obviously quite bizarre) upbringing, just like millions of other people. The difference is that the rest of us don't go on Oprah and write books indulging ourselves in it.

I think Harry is very healthy. Healing and growing. Seeing how he has in the past acted in a way that constituted unconscious bias and trying to change. "What is the point of having a mind if you cannot change it."

I don’t think he is well, if he were my friend I would strongly advise him to stay out of the limelight. He just doesn’t seem to me to be behaving like a 38 year old man, can’t quite put my finger on it. My 18 DS can do the odd daft thing but overall he is much more level headed and steady than Harry.

The passage says the audi windows were nearly rattled out, i took it to mean from the noise. The barn wasn't blown up, the jet engines would have shook it too bits. Likes pointing a hair dryer at a pack of cards. And this wasn't an active situation, it was, at very best, a training exercise so the jet wouldn't have even had live ammunition.

Can't believe I've just stopped so low and read this this thread after intentionally insisting this disaster for so long. But let me be clear about this. King Charles was never in any danger at all.

Please don’t twist my words. Where did I say he was an expert in PTSD? I was saying that his role in helping to run the Invictus Games would have involved speaking to many veterans about their experiences with experts on hand to brief him. I imagine therefore he has a fairly good handle on the subject.

I think the 'really ill' royal is Prince Andrew surely. Do you think he has had counselling? Tried to change? Owned up to his issues?
He single handedly turned the Royal Family in to a laughing stock and in her last year of life his mum had to strip him of his titles and pay £12million to make the allegations go away. What on earth did that do to her mental and physical health? She was a wise and canny lady, presumably she knew that she was confessing to the world that her second son had done something illegal and highly disgusting.
I would argue Prince Charles is pretty ill too if he self identifies as a tampon.

@glasshole assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/43339/dte_info_leaflet_dteeast.pdf
Live-firing training, including Typhoons does happen on UK soil.

Charles was never in danger because this is the fantasy of a deranged mind.
OR
The RF have been able to conduct one of the biggest cover ups ever in order to save Harry's arse.

He despised the palace advisors and wanted to get away from them and their influence. But he seems incapable of making his own sensible decisions without help. He seems to need the structure of someone or an organisation telling him what to do - even if he then rebels against. First the Army, now MM. At the very least he is seriously immature. If I was his friend I would advise him to stop talking in public, and do his private therapy in private, otherwise he will live to regret what he is doing. I do hope that he is not in fact the insensitive and self-obsessed person who comes across on the media now. The fact that he has deliberately put his wife and children at more of a security risk is in itself a really worrying sign about his lack of judgement.

I think the 'really ill' royal is Prince Andrew surely

This "But Andrew ..." gambit is becoming as transparent as a freshly washed window, though nothing like as attractive or useful

You'll find no bigger critic of the RF, including Andrew and even the late Queen, but even they're not responsible for Harry's every choice any more than his wife is. That responsibility belongs to Harry, except that he clearly has no intention of accepting it

He said he leans towards magical thinking which the book excerts I've read bear out. Seals singing, Diana's presence etc. He seems to be almost euphoric at present at expressing things in his own way.

Needs to watch the drugs though.

If you publish a book/s, do TV interviews, sign up to do work with Netflix -- you are opening yourself up to the media and comment/criticism

If you want the money you have to take the flack if it arises

If you don't want comment/criticism, stay off grid

It's not a difficult concept

**Dammit I knew I'd spelt that wrong, excerpts

I think his ghostwriter and his editor have been utterly negligent in allowing so many perfect storms through the editorial process.

@glasshole Of course Charles wasn't in any danger. The whole thing was a joke.

Did you miss that?

What is concerning is that H should think it was 'fun' making it all up and suggest it was real!

And yes, the RAF does so live bombing as target practice.

But can a man on the ground in a quadbike , presumably off duty, talk to a Typhoon pilot?

I don’t think he’s really ill, but yes zero responsibility

Do I believe that within the wider context of the book this reads better than the media extracts? Yes

Was the inclusion of a figure and the use of the words 'chess pieces' wise whatever the other words? No

Is anyone advising H and M properly on this without pound signs? No

Is this a situation they have substantially contributed towards by failing to heed any advice they don't want to hear? Yes

It occurred to me that this whole situation must be giving Harry a real 'rush' - for probably the first time in his life, HE is the one in demand and not William. He is the one making headlines, being asked onto talk shows, being talked about in the papers and social media. Look how much interest he's generated and I imagine that in his head, its because everyone MUST be interested in him, rather than interested because people are feeling like they are watching a car crash in slow motion. And he just doesn't seem to be able to see this.

I am surprised that there has been no mention of his home and family being affected by the floods - surely that would have been brought up in the interviews? ie why aren't you with your wife and family protecting them from the floods?