To think Harry is really ill based on recent comments he's made?

[OhMonDieux]

I'm thinking of how he accuses the media of putting a spin on his comments about killing 25 men.

He says it's been taken out of context.
Does he even know what that means?

If the lines we read were quoted directly from the book, where is the spin? Yes, it may have been part of a bigger picture of (as he alludes to) helping soldiers overcome PTSD .

BUT he still gave a 'body count' and spoke of them as chess pieces (all of which the Army has said is not how they teach soldiers to think.)

Even if- and it's a big 'if' - the intention was good behind relating his war experiences, someone ought to have edited the book. He should have had advice from the military, rather than relying on a ghost writer.

He appears to be in complete denial about anything he does and the fault is always someone else's.

So sad, really, and how his father is coping I have no idea.

If I’m completely honest, if you take away that they are royal and look at it purely on a family basis, then Charles must be desperately worried about harry.

whatever is behind this, this behaviour is abnormal and unhealthy. Deeply so. I think any of us can say, deep down, if this was our child, we would be devastated and consumed by concern. There are also little children involved here.

he is displaying signs of delusion, paranoia, he tell us us his memory isn’t whole since his mother died, he accepts and knows his words aren’t factual truth, but declares them his truth, so tells us that’s all that matters, he is also unable to comprehend the consequences of his actions, and has a clear inability to truly feel empathy. He is also quick to anger when challenged, and deflects when he doesn’t wish to answer.

He pretends he feels empathy for his family, but you can see he simply doesn’t comprehend what that is, he has no empathy, and he is also strongly narcissistic and self absorbed.

He has self views which are overly grandiose, telling us his novel is of historical significance, how many Taliban he killed, he tells us repeatedly how important he is whilst displaying great offence that he was perceived as the spare, that he didn’t get his own way with the half in half out.

he tells us he even told Meghan she was coming in to change rhe british monarchy, throw out the old traditions, start ones Meghan deemed appropriate, like this was his decision. On leaving he told us he would collaborate with the queen. Like he was her equal.

and he has now displayed fury that he didn’t get to do as he wished. That he was thwarted.

none of us can diagnose him, none of us know if he has a personality disorder, or mental illness, but if I was his parent and this was my son, I’d be very distressed and deeply concerned.

for me, this stopped being about royal gossip and started to be about a man publicly unravelling, with very significant issues now on full display ti the public.

Oh rubbish.

If I were on combat duty, doing what I was being paid to do - killing insurgents- I can absolutely imagine reconciling what I was doing by dehumanising my targets.
How else could anyone kill another human being in cold blood?

I absolutely believe his comments have been manipulated to suit a narrative.

I can absolutely imagine reconciling what I was doing by dehumanising my targets.

Isn't that the logical thing to do?

none of us can diagnose him, none of us know if he has a personality disorder, or mental illness,

doesn't stop all the crazies who think H&M are Lucifers henchmen deciding they know more though!

confusedcentral5 · Today 23:04
I can absolutely imagine reconciling what I was doing by dehumanising my targets.

“Isn't that the logical thing to do”

Yes, of course.

so why all the stupid hoo-ha about it?

Oh ffs let’s not turn this into yet another tedious MN man v woman debate.

@Thestagshead yeh great post, completely agree. He never uses the word "compassion" without getting a dig at someone-like on Oprah when he said his father and brother were trapped and he has compassion for that. Or that he has compassion for Camilla being the 3rd person in a marriage-please!

@Blossomtoes

Oh ffs let’s not turn this into yet another tedious MN man v woman debate.

Apologies for sharing an observation...

And it's not a man vs woman thing.

It's a people who blame male behaviour on women vs people who don't blame male behaviour on women thing.

Plenty of women do it too. Extra depressing.

To think Harry is really ill based on recent comments he's made?

He's not ill. He's a unpleasant, frost-bitten dickhead

Because you have a thought in your head, doesn't mean you should communicate them to the world. Just have some discretion and common sense.

I agree that in order to be in active service you have to find a way to deal with that - without question.

Point several people are trying to make is strip all the drama away from it, if this was a ‘regular’ autobiography that mentioned military service and a kill number (for want if a better description) - he still puts himself in danger from extremism groups based in the fact he’s a Royal Prince and a huge target.

In this particular case it’s got nothing to do with which side you are on and how the media has spun it. He has made himself and his family less safe by his own comments. The war was deemed illegal by international law and we have the most known man on the planet currently saying he personally killed 25 insurgents - at a time when ISIS/Taliban has reclaimed power in Afghanistan. For a member of the royal house he appears to have no clue about national security or his own.

Cannabis induced psychosis. Or at the very least cannibis induced paranoia.

I don't think he uses cocaine anymore and his drinking probably doesn't help his mental health , even if he doesn't drink excessively.

Drinking spirits on live tv at the age of nearly 40 - I can't see how that indicates he is looking after his mental health. FWIW i think he looks like he drinks too much- you can see it in his face

What I can’t understand is why news outlets told us all the Taliban’s “response” to him killing 25 of their terrorist group members. Who gives a fuck what those murdering bastards think about anything? It’s completely baffling that they were given air time, from any news outlet, let alone BBC, Sky etc.

Maybe it’s because people are concerned about terrorist attacks on UK soil (again).

Quite. And maybe so Harold can see the effect of his stupidity and think a bit harder about what he says. But obviously it’s the media’s fault. As usual.

This.

The instigator of it all is very silent too, which is quite ominous.
Hes making such a mistake, and ultimately she will use it against him later.

Omg, it's like the Daily Mail editor & so-called journalists are living in these crazies' heads!

I think the media are playing catch up now.

Revelations from Harry are coming so thick and fast, that it is impossible for journalists to shape a narrative. Everybody in the Royal Family is copping it from Harry. He seems to be, himself, absolutely living and breathing according to what the press think. He's defined his whole purpose based on whether he thinks the public like him. Why doesn't he just do something worthwhile and realise that actuality is what matters, not perception.

Oh ffs give it a rest.

That's the thing with TV shows, they allow the public to hear it from the horses' mouth - and often, in this case. There's no press filter on what he says. He's spouting his own version and feelings every day, on a different show.

You've just cut Justine's profit in half just like her ex husband....

Very true. Maybe Harry should just confine his thoughts to posts on MN. Maybe he has. Maybe you're him! Maybe I'm him! Haha, I sound like Charles!! 😁

I always find it worrying when people don't expect others to be shocked by something they say which is completely unethical.

So, we now know that Harry sees army manoeuvres like a computer game. There's fun for him in what he says about the Typhoon. He can see missions like a game of chess. It isn't propriety which stops other military veterans speaking about things like this, it is a natural reticence in the face of death. I just wonder where Harry's morality lies, if he doesn't have a natural feeling for it.

All morality with Harry is about thinking one thing until someone puts him straight, and then he learns and thinks another thing. What is his own moral compass?

What did he think about shooting rabbits, when a teenager? Didn't he worry about bunny wunny's feelings? Everything is just fun for him. He either should have an argument: 'This is the way of the countryside' 'Its a quick death for the rabbit' , or object and admit that he started to question it. Most youngsters would go through the questioning stage. They used to do fox hunting near where I lived, and, for a long time, my sister and I would go with our parents to watch the hunt, from a distance. Then we got to twelve or so, and didn't want to. We felt sorry for the fox.

He didn't question drugs at the time. He bases his decision in wearing on Nazi uniform on what others say. He also mixes up the petty grievances with the bigger ones - like having a small bedroom at Balmoral. Feeling miffed is the same as feeling wronged, to him.

He can't explain anything morally to himself. It was mean William saying for Harry to stay out of his way at Eton, but most people, over the years would acknowledge how William was also an outsider at Eton, having Royal protection officers next to him, and being the heir and people on their guard and he, himself, trying to appear normal and have a normal life. However, William has obviously got his slightly hard side, making every allowance for a teenager and suspecting that Harry was probably an irritating kid brother who tried to push into his games. Harry could have said 'I told him he was being mean' but instead he thinks 'Fine', but feels suppressed resentment. So he becomes a mass of resentment, because he doesn't process things and understand the nuances, at the time nor as he matures. Somebody else has to tell him a new way of thinking. That's where he is as an adult, someone who can be told what to think and who just experiences events without working them out.

The night shift is tiring at least I'm on a beach somewhere nice wasting my time....

i think @Thestagshead has it right. Unraveling in public.

It strikes me Harry had poor quality, detached parenting compounded by the loss of his mum and being shoved in boarding school where there was inadequate support. A tough hand, but many kids have it far worse. Not his big brother’s job to look out for him. Who was looking out for William? And he did alright.

If Harry was well, he would have seen this book and all these interviews are not worth the money they bring. The damage, the embarrassment in the long run. Maybe he is not bright enough and will never realise what damage he is doing to himself and his family by laying all this out in public.

I do wonder how Meghan can egg this on, how can she think this is the best way to help Harry? It’s appalling. I couldn’t ever forgive for this if I was W or K.

At the same time, I don’t understand RF not trying some kind of intervention to help. Can they really have written him off? It seems callous.