She changed the whole look or Givenchy hate her?

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I think she changed the lot just before the wedding.
Anyone know the lead time for Givenchy bridal wear?
Facts as I see them.

1. Her evening Sella mccartney dress looked stunning and fitted well.

1. 4 days before the wedding a local tailor Aja had to refit all the daytime bridesmaids dresses. Where was Givenchy?
2. on the day the dresses look ok but not fabulous
3. on the day her day dress was not fitted correctly. i am not sure you could fit it with that darting position and a boat neck.
4. Her veil was fabulous but didn’t match the dress and tiara.

This is no disrespect to Aja there is only so much you can do to refit a dress esp if there is no allowance for darts or seams and the cut is all wrong.

so A B or C?
A
She changed the complete look tiara and all and only kept the veil right up until the last minute.
B She kept chopping and changing or couldn’t make a decision right up to the last minute.
C
Givenchy hated her and sent sub par dresses even though the whole world would be looking?
I think there was no time for Givenchy to get the bridesmaids dresses fitted.
most likely there had been too many design changes before hand.

No, it’s because posters like me talk about the fashion and discuss it with others. Lead by example

I definitely remember comments being made at the time about M's dress. I think it was initially surprise at how simple it was, but I do also remember comments about how it wasn't especially fitted.

@WomanhoodIsABirthright who is that? She is gorgeous! The dress definitely looks better on the other woman, but I assumed that Meghan wanted it relaxed fitting. That’s her style (at non royal functions at least).

She looked lovely and the kids looked cute. I am hopeless at sewing and obviously I bow to the knowledge of people who are experts but still it looked good. The bit that struck me was those poor kids in new shoes with no socks/tights. I didn't think that was kind. Some people (me) seem to suffer much more with new shoes that others, I'd have been in agony and probably bleeding as I seem to have feet that just don't like new shoes and couldn't cope sockless/tightless.

My assumption was that MM had a whole team helping her with the wedding, so that there was such drama about the dresses was a bit

But seems that she was a one woman band, although am wondering about Givenchy's lack of fitting being more along the lines that they made the dresses per the measurements so why would there need to be any alterations?

www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a20757993/meghan-markle-royal-wedding-gown-twitter-reactions/

My bridesmaids lived in different countries so I used a made-to-measure online dressmaking service (not Givenchy). Even after making the dresses to the women's measurements, further fittings were needed., certainly to get the lengths right. Once they had their dresses, they went to local seamstresses for final alterations and sent me the bill.

Seemed to work fine. I had three bridesmaids, all very different shapes and sizes (they wore the same colour but chose their own dress styles from sketches and one of them was pregnant) and as far as I can tell, the dresses fitted beautifully. They all said they felt good in their dresses, which was what mattered most.

Yes, long sourcing chain undermines credibility.

Main point of interest is that things were not all well, and this is from four years ago (so not a reaction to the book)

If you think that link has a ring of believability to it then you are gullible. Anyone can post absolutely anything on the internet and given the right circumstances, or enough naive people, it can be believed.

Someone I know once decided to see whether they could start a story on the internet as a joke. The professional sports club they supported was looking for a new manager. Friend did a bit of research into unknown European managers and picked a random name. They then posted on twitter and sports message boards just that they'd heard this person might be the new manager. It took off all over the place, even bookmakers added the name to the list of potential managers. Message boards were full of people madly searching for this person's credentials in the sport and discussing why the club would appoint them.

It was all complete nonsense, and the person confessed what they'd done, but it just shows how people fall for complete lies.

It was all complete nonsense, and the person confessed what they'd done, but it just shows how people fall for complete lies

A bit like the William affair BS, then?

Princess Angela of Liechtenstein
Panamanian designer
Princess Angela of Liechtenstein is a Panamanian-American fashion designer and member of the Liechtenstein princely family. Born in Panama and raised in the United States, Angela became the first woman of primarily African descent to marry into a reigning European dynasty.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Angela_of_Liechtenstein

So she's a designer.
I wonder if she designed her own dress, and MM ripped it off 😬
The first black woman in a royal family too!! That's got to be relevant to the rip off design.

I've no idea if that's true or not. It makes no difference to the fact that your link is completely unsubstantiated. And even if the author is genuine, it's still nothing but a third hand account from the cousin of someone who heard it from someone else.

I like Meghan's wedding dress. It is not bodyform fitting, that does not make it ill fitting. The bodyform close fitting works well for some styles and fabrics e.g. the lace sleeves on Kate's wedding dress, and looks cheap on other styles and materials. But it is a style choice, not ill fitting.

I am not so keen on her evening dress. I think formal halterneck style dresses rarely work. There is also too much material which swamps her a bit.

I don't believe for a minute that after having 4 tailors working on the dresses days and night that the hem on Charlotte's dress was not straight. Charlotte was 3 years old. Kids stand strangely and make clothes look strange. My DD was like this every time I took a photo when she was a young child.

And if Meghan was so horrible that she was continually mocking a 3 year old child as that link claims, there would be a lot of stories about her. Because a mother continually mocking another 3 year old child is extreme behaviour.
I also agree with another poster that Givenchy will be well used to very demanding and difficult clients.

Givenchy sacked a staff member. It sounds like the person sacked has complained to friends and made up a story to justify their sacking. This is a fairly common thing for someone sacked to do.

@BradfordGirl someone has posted a picture of the bridesmaid dress on display and the hem isn't straight

I do t follow this stuff but reading your post why would Givenchy miss the opportunity to have a stunning dress viewed by millions, incredible publicity for their brand because they didn't like Megan. Or amI missing the point ?

@BradfordGirl careful, reason doesn't seem to be the order of the day!

Because a mother continually mocking another 3 year old child is extreme behaviour.

Meghan wasn’t a mother

And it wasn’t just the hem that wasn’t straight, the bodice was clearly too large too.

Yes, i wasnt really on MN at the time, but it was certainly mentioned on other forums that the flower girl dresses looked a bit baggy & not quite right. Also that Meghan's dress was a tiny bit ill fitting - consensus was she'd lost weight.

Actually, it was

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/3280443-Meghans-awful-dress-yesterday

No-one knows do they, that's exactly the point. It's all just mindless gossip, whichever 'side' you're on.

Angela of Liechenstein, who MM copied, actually designed her dress herself

www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4717473-mm-wedding-dress-was-a-rip-off-from-the-first-black-woman-to-marry-into-a-western-royal-family?reply=122991755

I'm sure it was, as I said I wasn't really on MN at that time so wouldn't have seen it.

Actually- I’m wrong. Apologies. It was her dress at a wedding that was seen as I’ll fitting. You were completely correct.