She changed the whole look or Givenchy hate her?

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I think she changed the lot just before the wedding.
Anyone know the lead time for Givenchy bridal wear?
Facts as I see them.

1. Her evening Sella mccartney dress looked stunning and fitted well.

1. 4 days before the wedding a local tailor Aja had to refit all the daytime bridesmaids dresses. Where was Givenchy?
2. on the day the dresses look ok but not fabulous
3. on the day her day dress was not fitted correctly. i am not sure you could fit it with that darting position and a boat neck.
4. Her veil was fabulous but didn’t match the dress and tiara.

This is no disrespect to Aja there is only so much you can do to refit a dress esp if there is no allowance for darts or seams and the cut is all wrong.

so A B or C?
A
She changed the complete look tiara and all and only kept the veil right up until the last minute.
B She kept chopping and changing or couldn’t make a decision right up to the last minute.
C
Givenchy hated her and sent sub par dresses even though the whole world would be looking?
I think there was no time for Givenchy to get the bridesmaids dresses fitted.
most likely there had been too many design changes before hand.

I read somewhere that Princess Charlotte cried about the fit of her dress, what 4 year old does that? would a young girl be aware of whether clothes fit or not?

I read somewhere that Princess Charlotte cried about the fit of her dress, what 4 year old does that? would a young girl be aware of whether clothes fit or not?

I take it you haven't known many 4 year old girls! 😂

So true, only sons and they don't care what they wear.

It's normally about stuff feeling wrong with kids, rather than the look. If it's as big as is suggested then it would have felt uncomfortable - there would have been fabric pooling under the arm, excess fabric around the chest. Clothes that are way too big but made from a stiff fabric aren't a nice sensory experience

why didn’t Kate take her along, that’s the question because it seems like the hem at least was salvageable. The sleeves, I have to say I am not good on sleeves but they could presumably have been made tighter so maybe that was the design?

Well I'm not sure that I'd be willing to take my 3/4 year old to fittings lasting until 4 am in the morning.

Well I'm not sure that I'd be willing to take my 3/4 year old to fittings lasting until 4 am in the morning.

You obviously don’t know what a dress fitting is. The children would have needed to be there at the start of the process, would have put the dress on, measurements would have been taken, the child could then leave and the seamstresses/tailors would do their job.

There's no evidence that she didn't take Charlotte to be fitted

With any alterations that I have had done (not many and a fantastic dressmaker friend has always done them) or my DD when she was a bridesmaid, the hem was the last thing to be done because any alterations could apparently affect how the clothes hang. In my (limited) experience, sewing people have an almost obsessive interest in hems and how long they should be etc.!

Kate must have taken her to at least one fitting for everyone to realise that the dresses didn't fit! But I wouldn't blame her if she didn't want to take a 3 year old to a fitting ending at 10 pm the night before the wedding.

cm read as inches would have resulted in larger than adult-sized dresses. I think that would have been spotted pretty quick.

Oh, some of them do, trust me!

I suspect Charlotte didn’t cry because she was upset over the aesthetic of an oversized dress, or even because it was uncomfortable (those both perfectly possible for a 3 year old). I suspect it was the ‘fitting’ not the ‘fit’. We have been told there were six girls there and we know they all had problems With their dresses. Even without any considerations of mistreatment, nasty comments or bullying, for a 3 year old to have to hang around while girl after girl gets measured in ill fitting dresses would be a lot to expect a three year to put up with.

I'm feeling bamboozled.

Is the timeline:

1. Mid-May fitting with dress designer and Givenchy team. Reported to be a bit on the stressful side but no major dramas (Finding Freedom).

2. Very shortly thereafter Ajay and team are working night and day to try to fix major multi bridesmaid dress debacle in time for wedding. No apparent practical input from Givenchy team. Whoever is responsible for the fiasco pays for the alterations.

3. 19th May, wedding. Meghan gets out of car and the dress designer pops up to smooth out her dress. Business as usual.

The only explanation I can come up with is that Givenchy got it wrong and Meghan agreed to point at Kate and say 'Look squirrel!' every time bridesmaid dresses were mentioned in return for a lifetime's supply of couture gowns.

But, honestly, that can't be right!

Not sure about a units mixup although NASA once lost a multi-million pound spacecraft for that very reason.

Jeremy Vine did an item on maths cock ups that proved to be expensive last week. Some were quite funny but I don't think that can have happened here or surely the dresses would have been either enormous or Barbie sized?

Unless Meghan herself was the one who made some sort of mistake with the measurements? Perhaps agreeing sizing up to allow for growth but with no one knowledgable about children not knowing how much to allow for and doing too much?

I can't believe that Meghan was that closely involved in organising the bridesmaids dresses. There clearly was a screw up by Givenchy but why it happened I doubt we'll ever know, unless the bad publicity makes them speak out, but even then I doubt they will (especially if it is actually all not just partly their fault).

I don't know why I keep mulling this over but here goes:

Meghan hums and haws over the designs. Completion of the dresses is behind schedule. Dresses finally arrive four days before the wedding. They have to be right, or nearly right. But they are not. None of them are. They are the wrong size - beautiful but the wrong size. Givenchy decide that they don't want to attempt changes which cannot be made to their own exacting standards in the limited time remaining. They down tools(needles).

Then the cavalry arrives (Ajay and team) to do a 'quick fix' and save the day.
Meanwhile Meghan is feeling bad about humming and hawing for so long. She downplays the magnitude of the problem in her mind. Kate doesn't help with the downplaying.

My guess (purely speculation) is that the more determined Kate was that there was a huge problem with the dresses, the more Meghan was determined that everything was fine and it was a minor issue. The ladies obviously don’t get along.

One possibility which occured to me, and it seems daft but...the bridesmaids are mostly quite close in age - they were ( I think) 2, 3, 3, 4, 6 & 7

In the photos there's a cluster of wee ones who look similar sizes, the 4 year old (with the best fitting dress) who is quite noticeably taller, and then the older siblings who look fairly similar to each other.

Maybe they mixed up the dresses/measurements at some point in the process. If the kids were never all back together for a fitting (which if they were popping in to KP separately as and when they could then they wouldn't have been) it would have been easy to miss especially with 4 separate tailors working on the repairs.

I saw exactly this happen with BM dresses when I was buying my wedding dressm except they were all together so they very quickly went "mine's way too small", "Mine's way too big" oh hang on let's swap.

I do feel that Givenchy is to blame not Meghan. Designers are used to working with difficult people. I refuse to believe Meghan was that much of a problem that Givenchy couldn’t work with her. They work with the biggest divas in the world. It’s part of their job to realize a bride’s vision and create a dress they’ll love. The design seems very Meghan too. It’s not like she wanted a meringue with loads of lace, bows and beading, then changed her mind at the last minute to something more simple. I just don’t see it.