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The Ludgrove Matron

231 replies

Radyward · 10/01/2023 19:59

How awful of him to name this poor woman and discuss her disability and thY He didn't find her "HOT" words fail me . The poor woman. Her poor family. I mean how old is She now. Implicated in this crazy book

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ArcaneWireless · 11/01/2023 16:55

I wonder if his cousin is ok with him describing someone as crooked?

My cousin (spina bifida/scoliosis) is not ok with it.

And this book is written by the man he has become?

Aye, and by the nasty article he was and remained.

My cousin used a different word. I believe he paired it with frostbitten and also flaccid.

She was right.

CathyorClaire · 11/01/2023 17:06

And yes, I'm fully aware of the pledges he's allegedly made to donate the book proceeds to Well Child and Invictus among others ... show the receipts when the time comes and I might actually believe it

Might be quite nice to see the receipts in respect of the damages he won way back when which were allegedly to be donated to Invictus too.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2023 17:15

Might be quite nice to see the receipts in respect of the damages he won way back when which were allegedly to be donated to Invictus too

I'd forgotten that one, Cathy - you're right of course

CathyorClaire · 11/01/2023 17:20

He'd no doubt claim to be horrified by the comparison but the lack of empathy Harold displays for others is quite reminiscent of that displayed by ghastly Uncle Andy in the Newsnight interview.

Seems it's yet another unpleasant family trait.

CathyorClaire · 11/01/2023 17:22

I'd forgotten that one, Cathy - you're right of course

We're all going to need spreadsheets to keep up soon 😉

daretodenim · 11/01/2023 17:27

It betrays the fact that Harry is a bully and perhaps his denial of the bullying accusations against him and Meghan may be due to the fact that he doesn't recognise such behaviour as bullying! After all, they're little people - who are paid to follow orders - surely they don't have the feelings of finer folk like H & M.

Absolutely this.

Swissmountains · 11/01/2023 17:44

daretodenim · 11/01/2023 17:27

It betrays the fact that Harry is a bully and perhaps his denial of the bullying accusations against him and Meghan may be due to the fact that he doesn't recognise such behaviour as bullying! After all, they're little people - who are paid to follow orders - surely they don't have the feelings of finer folk like H & M.

Absolutely this.

It does seem he does not recognise his own bullying behaviour at all - can we assume that he also does not recognise bullying towards his own family? They are not 'little people' paid to do what he wants, do you think he has placed them in the 'not worthy' pile too? And basically everyone else around him?

It seems to me that the only people he thinks matter in the world, are himself and Meghan. Everyone else is there as a prop/audience.

He only recognises his own pain, he has no ability to see anyone else's whatsoever.

Ridemeginger · 11/01/2023 17:50

It seems to me that the only people he thinks matter in the world, are himself and Meghan.

It seems to me that the only people he thinks matter in the world, are himself and Diana. He's playing out, with Meghan, the life his mother would have had, with him the gallant saviour and provider.

EpicChaos · 11/01/2023 17:55

" She just seemed empathy challenged. "

Hello pot, may I introduce you to kettle?!

On the whole, what an appalling specimen of a human being he seems to be! I'm disgusted by him. He appears to have not one single redeeming quality about him, at all and after all of this, anyone ( charities, A listers, etc. ) still giving him the time of day needs to be given very short shrift, imo.
How anyone can even try to defend/excuse the comments about the matron, let alone comments about anyone/anything else, is beyond me.
The man he has become? ' Man ' certainly isn't the/any of the word/s I'd use to describe him!

Notgotanyidea · 11/01/2023 18:19

Mocking a woman for her crooked spine. The exact condition his cousin has major surgery to correct. Nice guy.

WolfFoxHare · 11/01/2023 18:20

ancientgran · 11/01/2023 11:46

Kids do bad stuff, they don't all have the maturity to understand how harmful it is. He is now a 38 year old man and he has described this woman in a very unflattering way, if he just wanted to tell us he was an obnoxious 13 year old he didn't have to identify her and whatever her name is expupils and staff will know exactly who he means.

I hope he says somewhere that he is ashamed of what he did but that doesn't alter the fact that he has held this woman up to ridicule.

Yes, I agree. It’s not so much that he was a little shit at prep school that bothers me about this. If the story had been leaked to the press when he was in his teens, I’d have thought ‘Little shit, how horrible!’ but also that loads of children can be cruel like that before they develop a bit of empathy. The problem is that he’s approved a description of ‘Pat’ that reads like something from a Roald Dahl novel, as an adult. If that section had been written in a different way, eg ‘There was one particular matron who no-one really liked because she was always a bit grumpier than the others. I was very rude about her at the time to make my friends laugh.’ etc etc, with maybe some expression of regret, it would be a different matter.

longwayoff · 11/01/2023 18:26

He still seems to be oblivious to just how much of his character and behaviour has been protected from wider public knowledge.by the RF press office he despises. When all the bowing and scraping is over hel'l find out how cushioned he was. Like Andrew he thinks it's all going pretty well. I expect hell be offering us a tour of the house next.

Blossomtoes · 11/01/2023 18:30

He still seems to be oblivious to just how much of his character and behaviour has been protected from wider public knowledge.by the RF press office he despises.

This. If they hadn’t been beavering away for a couple of decades to cover his tracks none of this would be a revelation and his popularity would have been in the gutter. He’s certainly doing his best to negate all the work they did on his behalf now.

Ridemeginger · 11/01/2023 18:40

He's still only telling what he wants to tell though, because he thinks it helps his image. I reckon his regular guy anecdotes are the tip of the iceberg. The RF must have been working overtime to protect his reputation, the ungrateful git.

ArcaneWireless · 11/01/2023 18:46

SnowAndIceLobelia · 11/01/2023 14:52

The problem I have with Harry is that he is perfectly content and thinks it within his rights to throw others under the bus. he talks about losing his virginity and then there is massive specualtion about who it was with, with the media camping outside likely candidate's houses. He talks about his 'number' when in the military and this has potentially put alot of people in some jeopardy, as detailed by any number of current and ex military on a variety of fora. He talks about Pat and her physical disabilities and her greay hair and how hot he considers her to be or not and she is then named on twitter. He talks about his family members and gives away details like if they are circumcised or not or that his dad still has a childhood teddy.

Now, leaving aside the fact that the RF have power and money compared with the other people he has shamed in his book, NONE of these people have consented to have this information out there and poured over by the entire world. Harry writes like these things are just fun japes and they have no consequences at all. He is apparently entirely incapable of acknowledging or respecting the dignity and privacy of other people.

For someone who witters on about privacy, about the media, about people saying things in public about him or his family that he does not like... for someone who claims to be mental health campaigner and someone who claims to be about kindess and compassion and anti bullying- well it makes him look like a hypocrite at best.

So yes, at best I think he is a bit thick and a hypocrite. That is the nicest spin I can put on it. He is actually coming across as really very nasty.

This says it all.

👏🏼

CPL593H · 11/01/2023 19:42

I said on a thread the other day that the Ludgrove matron was identifiable and she clearly is. A small boy being horrid is forgivable, a 38 year old man writing what Harry did in a globally exposed book, with no seeming remorse, is not. Shameful.

onlylarkin · 11/01/2023 19:44

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 10/01/2023 21:18

Have you read the relevant section yourselves? Actually in context?

Like the part how he loved making her laugh.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2023 19:46

CPL593H I'm not going on Twitter and I'm certainly not going to ask the lady's name on here, but just wondered if there's any indication if she's getting on okay these days (apart from no doubt being doorstepped by the media)?

BubziOwl · 11/01/2023 20:34

MrsJoyless · 10/01/2023 22:03

"KV"? Did no one, not one single proofreader, know that English schoolboys traditionally mispronounce "cave" in this way? I assume Harry himself never took Latin....

Tbh as someone decidedly not upper class, it did bring me a small bit of joy to read that extract and feel that I apparently have better Latin knowledge than a member of the royal family. So thank you, Harry!

TrashyPanda · 11/01/2023 21:24

that extract is awful.
bratty kid being cruel is one thing.
adult male recalling how he taunted a lady with disabilities with absolutely no remorse or reflection on his shitty behaviour is just disgusting.
why does her appearance or disabilities have to with anything?
why does he mention them in such negative terms?

i wonder how the participants in Invictus Games feel about him now his true colours are revealed.

Backstreetsbackalrightdadada · 11/01/2023 22:59

Oh I’d forgotten Eugenie had needed surgery… wow yes wonder what she thinks of his description of the matron?

Boulshired · 11/01/2023 23:24

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/01/2023 19:46

CPL593H I'm not going on Twitter and I'm certainly not going to ask the lady's name on here, but just wondered if there's any indication if she's getting on okay these days (apart from no doubt being doorstepped by the media)?

The person who I read who said her full name assumed she was no longer alive. That she was loved and feared staff member

MeghanAndTheSeals · 11/01/2023 23:59

Tripofalifetime343 · 11/01/2023 14:05

Oh fhs have any of you actually read the passage concerned?

Taunting anyone is horrible but please don't do this woman extra harm by presenting her as some sort of victim.

Harry described her as someone whom small boys would be "ill advised to approach with any problem" and that she used to grab fistfuls of small boys and they were "well and truly fucked" if caught by her.

I'm not saying that justifies taunting as it doesn't but please read the passages accurately.

Schools could be pretty rough places back then; they tend to be gentler now.
I know when I was at school there was awful bullying and racism going on and certain teachers were mocked. It wasn't a kind environment. And I am sure that most of you on here have read about how Eton pupils allegedly jeered a group of visiting state school girl recently. This was the reality of Harry's environment when he was nine and he is telling it as he experienced it.

Ah, get it - you’re one of those people. Good of you to point it out.

There is NO excuse for what he wrote and, yes, we’ve all read it. Small clue, the text was included in the OP.

faffadoodledo · 12/01/2023 06:53

Backstreetsbackalrightdadada · 11/01/2023 22:59

Oh I’d forgotten Eugenie had needed surgery… wow yes wonder what she thinks of his description of the matron?

Scoliosis is horrible. The surgery is gruelling and risky and doesn't necessarily mean you'll be free of pain or having to have further surgery. And if you haven't had it (not suitable for everyone) it can lead to body dysmorphia and other mental health problems as well as pain. So descibring someone with the condition as H did is a real low blow and will compound the feelings of self loathing many have.
Such a cool move from someone who claims to be a mental health campaigner 🙄

I know a lot about this because my daughter has scoliosis and been through all the things I've described.

I'm so so angry with that man

faffadoodledo · 12/01/2023 07:00

Dysphoria not dysmorphia

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