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Radyward · 2023-01-10T19:59:14+00:00

How awful of him to name this poor woman and discuss her disability and thY He didn't find her "HOT" words fail me . The poor woman. Her poor family. I mean how old is She now. Implicated in this crazy book

jtaeapa · 10/01/2023 21:55

What the fuck?
I hope the poor woman is long since dead and can't read this bullshit.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 10/01/2023 21:56

Bloody hell. I thought he was a trouble making dolt before this. This is absolutely disgusting. He should be ashamed at himself. Scum.

ArseInTheDogBowl · 10/01/2023 21:58

From the man who wants to shoehorn 'misogyny' into as many sentences as possible, along with 'unconscious bias' 😂

Odious, horrible man.

SheilaFentiman · 10/01/2023 22:00

Huh?

He is recounting an anecdote from when he was 13 of him and other boys being shitty to a staff member at school. Cruel and rude, yes. “Absolutely disgusting and scum” - that applies to a lot of kids, then.

Do your kids not come home and tell you that the English teacher has a big nose, or Jack had to write an apology letter to the PE teacher for mimicking him, or whatever?

HunterHearstHelmsley · 10/01/2023 22:00

BlackFriday · 10/01/2023 21:50

Anyone else getting more than a little bit tired of people trying to minimise unpleasant anecdotes that HARRY HIMSELF has written in this pile of shit by tryng to imply that they're taken out of context?

They are as disgusting as he is. Just finding excuses.

ArseInTheDogBowl · 10/01/2023 22:01

SheilaFentiman · 10/01/2023 22:00

Huh?

He is recounting an anecdote from when he was 13 of him and other boys being shitty to a staff member at school. Cruel and rude, yes. “Absolutely disgusting and scum” - that applies to a lot of kids, then.

Do your kids not come home and tell you that the English teacher has a big nose, or Jack had to write an apology letter to the PE teacher for mimicking him, or whatever?

Difference is, those 13 year olds don't usually write in a book for all the works to see when they're pushing 40.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 10/01/2023 22:01

SheilaFentiman · 10/01/2023 22:00

Huh?

He is recounting an anecdote from when he was 13 of him and other boys being shitty to a staff member at school. Cruel and rude, yes. “Absolutely disgusting and scum” - that applies to a lot of kids, then.

Do your kids not come home and tell you that the English teacher has a big nose, or Jack had to write an apology letter to the PE teacher for mimicking him, or whatever?

Was that written in a book by a 38 YEAR OLD MAN?!

garlicandsapphires · 10/01/2023 22:03

Imagine if it was your mum he was describing.

MrsJoyless · 10/01/2023 22:03

"KV"? Did no one, not one single proofreader, know that English schoolboys traditionally mispronounce "cave" in this way? I assume Harry himself never took Latin....

miri1985 · 10/01/2023 22:09

SheilaFentiman · 10/01/2023 22:00

Huh?

He is recounting an anecdote from when he was 13 of him and other boys being shitty to a staff member at school. Cruel and rude, yes. “Absolutely disgusting and scum” - that applies to a lot of kids, then.

Do your kids not come home and tell you that the English teacher has a big nose, or Jack had to write an apology letter to the PE teacher for mimicking him, or whatever?

If my kids were recounting making fun of a disabled person 25 years later without any hint of remorse while being head of a charity to empower disabled people, I would be ashamed of them.

If my kids were constantly talking about misogyny while also recounting without remorse how they judged a woman 25 years ago for not being what they considered fuckable then I would be ashamed of them

LavenderHillMob · 10/01/2023 22:09

miri1985 · 10/01/2023 21:37

I've made up my mind myself reading the book that it was cruel, unkind and insenstive to include jibes about her appearance and disabilities

What. The. Actual. Fuck?

Did he think he was Roald Dahl rewriting the witches and forget this was about an actual person?

Why does the little shit get to bully people because he is a member of the royal family?

Cath667 · 10/01/2023 22:09

Until now I've believed Harry was the innocent victim of a narcissist (based on personal experience). I was worried about what would happen to him if Meghan dumped him. I still think he's the victim of a narcissist but I now realise he's a really nasty piece of work. He deserves everything coming to him. Criticising his family - nasty. Writing cruel things about innocent people who were just trying to earn a living - vile.

NameChangeGin · 10/01/2023 22:10

Oh my gosh. Poor poor Pat.

Yes, young people can be mean, but this is horrible.

Even if you want to excuse it as him being young, then surely in this book he'd talk about how awful he feels now looking back on it? How bad it was of him and how he'd like to apologise to her if he saw her again. Or even use the book to apologise? But no. He actually emphasises how funny he thinks all this is and how he was the one most enthusiastically laughing at her.

Horrible man.

NameChangeGin · 10/01/2023 22:16

If my kids were recounting making fun of a disabled person 25 years later without any hint of remorse while being head of a charity to empower disabled people, I would be ashamed of them.

this with bells on.

No hint of remorse in what he says. Horrid, self absorbed, out of touch, uncaring Toff who has no values, has sold his family and his soul, and believes himself to be the only person worthy of being considered human and with feelings.

I'm not surprised he saw the 25 victims of his army killings as chess pieces. It appears his psychopathic and narcissistic tendencies started very young and he has been able to de-humanise people for a long time.

Until now the royals have protected him, hidden him away, and put down any public displays of poor attitude down to Harry being 'a lad' and fun loving. Now Harry has sold the family out and has noone to protect him, we are seeing his true colours. So sad.

RedCatWhoGotTheCream · 10/01/2023 22:22

Boulshired · 10/01/2023 20:27

On Twitter her whole name has been used, it’s just horrible

Yes, took about three seconds to find it. What a sad nasty little man he is.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 10/01/2023 22:27

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 10/01/2023 21:31

I've literally just finished listening to that section on Audible. It's not cruel, it's not unkind, it's not insensitive.

But, sure, carry on having your opinions formed for you by newspapers. It's much quicker than having to think for yourself.

I agree- context is everything. He even said nothing made him more happier than being able to make her laugh because she quite often laughed with him. But surprise the tabloids didn't get this far.

He is not being pleasant but he is giving an account of himself and his teenage friends in the boarding house. Honestly some of your children must be angels - if you have experience of boarding schools then it gets like this and shocking but so does the school playground. I don't hear my kids talking like this when I'm around but I'm sure at some point they have done similar especially with friends.

Bit off topic but if you want to hear more about boys at this school read Black boy at Eaton.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/01/2023 22:30

So not just racist but disablist - or is he going to tell us that the retelling of this as an adult is some kind of "unconscious bias" too?

I'm so anti-violence as to be off the scale, but if I found someone had written like this about my own disabled son they wouldn't need a ghost writer - they'd need a bloody orthopaedic surgeon

NameChangeGin · 10/01/2023 22:31

PreparationPreparationPrep · 10/01/2023 22:27

I agree- context is everything. He even said nothing made him more happier than being able to make her laugh because she quite often laughed with him. But surprise the tabloids didn't get this far.

He is not being pleasant but he is giving an account of himself and his teenage friends in the boarding house. Honestly some of your children must be angels - if you have experience of boarding schools then it gets like this and shocking but so does the school playground. I don't hear my kids talking like this when I'm around but I'm sure at some point they have done similar especially with friends.

Bit off topic but if you want to hear more about boys at this school read Black boy at Eaton.

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this may be so, but surely you would expect that when those children grow up, are heading up disabled charities and spouting 'bekind", they would show some self reflection and not name and shame this poor person in a book read by millions? Would you not hope and expect they would show some remorse??

If I had ever treated someone in this way. If my children had, then I would feel awful and would hope my children would to. Surely there should be some apology? Some sense of remorse shown? Some acknowledgement that he was a child then, but now he's grown up he realises how wrong this all was and how he hopes poor Pat is ok?

CallipyJean · 10/01/2023 22:32

MrsJoyless · 10/01/2023 22:03

"KV"? Did no one, not one single proofreader, know that English schoolboys traditionally mispronounce "cave" in this way? I assume Harry himself never took Latin....

Yes! This is so bizarre. It should be really obvious from the context

magicthree · 10/01/2023 22:34

SheilaFentiman · 10/01/2023 22:00

Huh?

He is recounting an anecdote from when he was 13 of him and other boys being shitty to a staff member at school. Cruel and rude, yes. “Absolutely disgusting and scum” - that applies to a lot of kids, then.

Do your kids not come home and tell you that the English teacher has a big nose, or Jack had to write an apology letter to the PE teacher for mimicking him, or whatever?

Of course kids come home and tell their parents such things, and we all know they can be lacking in empathy - but seriously, are you comparing that to writing about it in a book which potentially millions will read? If you think that is acceptable then that tells us a lot about you.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/01/2023 22:42

Surely there should be some apology? Some sense of remorse shown? Some acknowledgement that he was a child then, but now he's grown up he realises how wrong this all was and how he hopes poor Pat is ok?

You'd hope so, yes, considering this book was touted as being about "the man I've become" and that a grown adult might be expected to have more empathy or even just a little basic decency

Unfortunately it becomes ever clearer that Harry's only empathy is for himself, and sooner or later he'll pay the price for that

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 10/01/2023 22:49

It's simply a description of her appearance. If I describe someone as being in a wheelchair, or having one leg, am I mocking their appearance? Or describing it? The confected outrage is tedious.

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Radyward · 10/01/2023 22:53

No one would paint themselves in as bad a light as this for the consumption of millions of people. His ghost writer mustnt have known what to think plus his publisher throwing him under the bus with this anecdote. Talk about warts and all . As for the Taliban chess pieces - seeing humans as such -

its total self destruct mode on Harrys behalf.
Some proviso stating that he was a child but embarrassed in hindsight at his behaviour towards her plus a sorry would have been appropriate as well as ( what he wanted ) successfully making us all picture boarding at ludgrove/ life at ludgrove for him age 13. High jinks or whatever.

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NameChangeGin · 10/01/2023 22:55

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 10/01/2023 22:49

It's simply a description of her appearance. If I describe someone as being in a wheelchair, or having one leg, am I mocking their appearance? Or describing it? The confected outrage is tedious.

He literally writes that he 'went on mocking her' as she walked down the stairs (with some difficulty due to her disabilities)

BeginningToLookALotLike · 10/01/2023 22:55

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 10/01/2023 22:49

It's simply a description of her appearance. If I describe someone as being in a wheelchair, or having one leg, am I mocking their appearance? Or describing it? The confected outrage is tedious.

No, it's an anecdote of him mocking her because she was disabled and he also didn't like her appearance. Poor woman.