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The Ludgrove Matron

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Radyward · 10/01/2023 19:59

How awful of him to name this poor woman and discuss her disability and thY He didn't find her "HOT" words fail me . The poor woman. Her poor family. I mean how old is She now. Implicated in this crazy book

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miri1985 · 10/01/2023 20:14

I would hope that hes used a pseudoname for her but she is incredibly identifiable from the way he describes her. I was expecting that the extract that had been released pre publication was going to be just part of the story and it was going to be that Harry didn't realise about how hard life was for her and how attractiveness isn't important etc but no its just a recounting of childhood cruelty and adult cruelty by writing this in a book. Nothing about that he reached out to her and apologised later in left when he saw how difficult life is for disabled people just I laughed at her and taunted her because I deemed her unattractive.

If I was that woman I would be humilated

CocoLux · 10/01/2023 20:18

It reflects incredibly badly on him, I think. I don't know why he included it or what the board of Invictus think of him mocking a disabled woman for failing to make him 'horny'. Yuck.

stbrandonsboat · 10/01/2023 20:20

He just sickens me even more after reading about this. What an awful person he must be.

HarryTheStallion · 10/01/2023 20:24

The whole matron bit of the book has been a bit ick so far. I'd never thought before about how boarding house staff are in situ parents but also potentially attractive to the boarders. No wonder so many people are effed up after boarding.

Boulshired · 10/01/2023 20:27

On Twitter her whole name has been used, it’s just horrible

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 10/01/2023 20:36

I agree he shouldn’t have named her, hopefully it is just a pseudonym, but as others pointed out I bet it’s easy to identify her.

However, I find it refreshing that he has admitted to this. I don’t think any one is 100% good. I bet even Diana was capable of being mean at some points in her life. I consider myself a fairly good person and I can think back to some awful things I’ve done/said in my youth. The only difference is we’re not admitting our faults/past mistakes in a book for all to admit.

Georgeskitchen · 10/01/2023 20:48

He was just a kid at the time tbf, and kids do that kind of stuff. Take the piss out of teachers/school staff, make up names for them etc. Comes with the territory. I do, however, think he was wrong to put it in the book

StarInTheHeavens · 10/01/2023 21:10

CocoLux · 10/01/2023 20:18

It reflects incredibly badly on him, I think. I don't know why he included it or what the board of Invictus think of him mocking a disabled woman for failing to make him 'horny'. Yuck.

Yeah, this big time.

Rhondaa · 10/01/2023 21:14

Georgeskitchen · 10/01/2023 20:48

He was just a kid at the time tbf, and kids do that kind of stuff. Take the piss out of teachers/school staff, make up names for them etc. Comes with the territory. I do, however, think he was wrong to put it in the book

Of course kids do stuff like this but as an adult he should've realised how cruel it sounded. Or his ghost writer, or editor. Surely there's someone with a bit of common sense and kindness who he is currently mixing with?.

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 10/01/2023 21:18

Have you read the relevant section yourselves? Actually in context?

miri1985 · 10/01/2023 21:22

Most people will have moments in their childhood where they were insensitive or downright cruel, the difference is we wouldn't broadcast it now as adults to millions of people and revictimize the person we weren't nice to.

To me, there didn't seem to be any lesson learned or embarassment at past behaviour. No one should whitewash their past or pretend like they were saints but at the same time hes writing about real people, I'm sure this matron would have enough stories about Harry to fill a book but has kept his privacy

If I was that woman I would feel crushed to read it in black and white

Backstreetsbackalrightdadada · 10/01/2023 21:25

Has this been verified as coming from the book? I just cannot believe anyone would be so cruel (though he was/ is racist so…)

Just vile, but sounds like a fake excerpt surely??

steff13 · 10/01/2023 21:26

Harrysfrostbittentodger · 10/01/2023 20:36

I agree he shouldn’t have named her, hopefully it is just a pseudonym, but as others pointed out I bet it’s easy to identify her.

However, I find it refreshing that he has admitted to this. I don’t think any one is 100% good. I bet even Diana was capable of being mean at some points in her life. I consider myself a fairly good person and I can think back to some awful things I’ve done/said in my youth. The only difference is we’re not admitting our faults/past mistakes in a book for all to admit.

But writing it in a book so the whole world can share her humiliation is just adding insult to injury. If he wanted to apologize he could have done that in private; it wasn't necessary to share it with the world.

jtaeapa · 10/01/2023 21:27

WTAF? Anyone got a photo of the page?

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 10/01/2023 21:31

I've literally just finished listening to that section on Audible. It's not cruel, it's not unkind, it's not insensitive.

But, sure, carry on having your opinions formed for you by newspapers. It's much quicker than having to think for yourself.

miri1985 · 10/01/2023 21:37

I've made up my mind myself reading the book that it was cruel, unkind and insenstive to include jibes about her appearance and disabilities

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Butteredtoast55 · 10/01/2023 21:41

@miri1985
Bloody hell, what a horrible little anecdote.

Xiaoxiong · 10/01/2023 21:44

@miri1985 that can't be real. Is that real??

It reads like one of the Private Eye parodies Shock

Xiaoxiong · 10/01/2023 21:45

@Menstrualcycledisplayteam is what is posted above the same as the audiobook?

Cath667 · 10/01/2023 21:49

Gosh, that's truly horrible. If this is a real person then it's unbelievably unkind. I am starting to think that Harry is so privileged that he doesn't realise that the little people have feelings, just like he does. His PR team call him a humanitarian? I call him a shitbag.

BlackFriday · 10/01/2023 21:50

Anyone else getting more than a little bit tired of people trying to minimise unpleasant anecdotes that HARRY HIMSELF has written in this pile of shit by tryng to imply that they're taken out of context?

Rhondaa · 10/01/2023 21:50

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 10/01/2023 21:31

I've literally just finished listening to that section on Audible. It's not cruel, it's not unkind, it's not insensitive.

But, sure, carry on having your opinions formed for you by newspapers. It's much quicker than having to think for yourself.

Confused

It is cruel, it is insensitive. He is mocking her 'crooked' spine fgs.

Confitofduckand · 10/01/2023 21:51

What did he get for GCSE English? There are moments where it actually feels well-written … and then he runs out of vocabulary and gives us the sentence: ‘That lad would then be well and truly fucked’ (even then, there’s monosyllabism for impact and is that a plosive at the end?).

Rhondaa · 10/01/2023 21:52

BlackFriday · 10/01/2023 21:50

Anyone else getting more than a little bit tired of people trying to minimise unpleasant anecdotes that HARRY HIMSELF has written in this pile of shit by tryng to imply that they're taken out of context?

Oh yes. The oft bleated 'context' which is puzzling as the actual context makes it worse!

Butteredtoast55 · 10/01/2023 21:54

It's ghost written @Confitofduckand supposedly by a Pulitzer prize winner who is credited right at the end (they were discussing it on the news this morning). I imagine it's a combination of his prose and Harry's actual words.