what exactly are the royals supposed to be apologising for?

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Didn;t watch the interview last night but have seen clips on the news this morning. He is banging on about abuse and how they need to come out and apologise to both him and Meghan.

But his main gripes appear about the media - which the other royals don't control, that Meghan didn't fit in, that his older brother is more important than he is / sibling rivalry, that Kate didn't "get on" with Meghan. Vague accusations about lies being told (which he doesn't specify) by "certain members" which again he doesn't specify.

What doe he REALLY expect to happen?

I have a question, forgive me if it's been answered on this or another thread.
When Harry says that 'palace sources' were responsible for much of the tabloid content how can he suggest that his family were influenced by the 'narrative' appearing in the media.
Is he suggesting that the royals were reading the tabloids and basing their assumptions on what they were reading after leaking said stories?
Seems a bit arse about face surely.

Is he saying, then, that the Queen was involved in or authorised leaking stories? Or that Charles decided his mother should be on the front-page so he leaked a story? How would leaking a story get them off the front page? Surely it would put them on the front page?
Unless the story was so bad we'd hate them for it? So what are those actual awful stories that made us hate them. I don't remember anything like that. And do they have proof they were planted or are they assuming?
Why would Harry reveal all sorts of personal information but not the very information for which they want an apology? Is it because he doesn't know, rather he just feels that's what has happened?

Exactly, of course the press and media are going to bury the actual points being made by over inflating and blowing out of proportion other things to belittle them and put a narrative forward that they are being petty etc. And well people are falling for it.

I mean they did the same with the pandemic, irresponsible articles about toilet rolls and other things running out based on one empty shelf in one store and creating panic. Its such a tired formula now you can almost see right through it

Why are people pretending they don't understand what his issues are?

I don't think even he knows what his issues are. He is so contradictory it's crazy. He says no-ones tried to reconcile with him and then talks about that incredibly personal interaction with W where W told him that he loved him at Prince Philip's funeral (I think I heard that right?) which was less than two years ago and after the OW interview. He talks about silence being a betrayal but we all know that he and M did fuck all to correct the RF being racist stuff that HE and Meghan started. He is so full of shit.

I think Harold really underestimates the degree to which his wife pissed off their staff. It’s pretty obvious to me where the leaks were coming from, it’s what people do when they’re mistreated and bullied. The turnover of personnel in the Sussex team was incredibly high compared with the other royal offices. Revenge is a powerful motivator.

I think it’s very sad to see a 74 year old man being treated like this by his adult son. These are precious years when grandparents are still young and able enough to enjoy quality family time.
No parent is perfect and I think there comes a point where you have to accept people as they are and show some love, support and forgiveness. Cherish the limited time you still have with them.

Charles has been through several major life events recently. I wouldn’t want to be putting my elderly family members under this much stress. Poor Charles, he means well, so sad for him.

Well as a human being and a father that would be something to applaud. If only they could call off the attack dogs of the baying media and a hyped up mob some good could come out of this.

Well, yes. It's all very well to say he wants your father and brother 'back', but he doesn't seem to want the father and brother he has, but an idealised version that just doesn't exist (for anyone).

IF his father and brother were constantly undermining him and Meghan, as he seems to be claiming (though without any specific accusations) then why would you want them 'back'?

I don't know who the hyped up mob are?
All the tabloid headlines today are not from Charles or Camilla, William or Kate, but taken from Harry's interviews.
They are not pleasant. Who's to blame?

Kate apparently has had something similar burns through staff, and her former right hand woman did a story in the Daily Mail claiming Kate fired her while she was on her honeymoon or something.

I think the leaking against Meghan accusations are the only really serious allegation they have which needs addressing.

But I don't understand which stories he believes the RF leaked?

I'd imagine it's the bridesmaid dress Kate crying one? Ok not great but not awful and a long time ago.

And then the mexit details. But this was once they were leaving so can't be the reason.

So what awful stuff was leaked??

If they were really trying to damage his wife through leaks they deserve an apology and a recognition this was happening.
But where's the evidence & what stories were these?

He wants an apology because he wasn’t born first, because he’s never going to be King and because he reckons everyone is against him.
I don’t think I have ever heard such a whinging, egotistical and vindictive person in all of my 69 years.

The term accountability was used a great deal in the interview. Of course we are all accountable for are actions but people's perception are different. I think TB made the point that issues are more nuanced and I don't think this has fully acknowledged - in many ways it is being painted as clear cut, the reality is this seldom the case.

I think the royal family are doing the right thing and not engaging publicly with this circus. Who knows what the reality was.

As regard the racism allegations - having watched Netflix, OW and interview yesterday I think that there was an attempt to infer the someone in the RF was racist in their comments. I did not think that what was racist at the time and feel that so many people then condemned people for saying it was not racist. Not everything is racist.

It was interesting how surprised/defensive he was , when Tom Bradbury suggested that far from wanting to reconcile, William might be massively put out and ask wtf he was thinking (I'm paraphrasing) by publicising their arguments and fights - without conceding he might have provoked or had an equal part in them.

I do have sympathy for him and Meghan but I literally can't see how he thinks publishing quite personal details and arguments where his family are always the aggressors against him, is in any way helpful to somehow winning them back?

That's because Harry says he's telling the truth, which cannot be challenged.
It actually made me laugh when he said he'd like an apology, but "in private"!
He's playing this all out, in detail, in public, for £££

I honestly don’t get what he’s getting at- abuse - ok well if that’s the case and you want to air it publicly then whats the actual abuse?
Your brother thinks he’s more important than you - he is in terms of the institution you have been born into. He let you know it- ok well rather unkind but not abuse.
You had an argument or two which led to William pushing you. Ok well again, not great but people close to each other and siblings - I guess that happens and you weren’t seriously hurt.
People in your family going to the press - evidence? Or just accusations? In either case it’s nasty but not abuse.
We get it, you feel they have wronged you many times. But what is your part to play Harry? Two sides always. And we won’t ever hear the other side- you know that. You know they can’t and won’t speak so it’s a one sided row from your side only.
i would absolutely love to hear the other side.

Maybe get the story right ? The role became redundant when the households split . She was not replaced .

You haven't met my brother-in-law then and you don't really know him just like you don't really know any of them and if you probably did you probably wouldn't like them. Probably 😀

Maybe it was this one in the time before Kate was beatified by the press. This smells of "difficult".

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3680115/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Kate-s-aide-quits-Kensington-Palace-love-triangle-Media-adviser-leaves-just-three-months-dumping-Duchess-s-Girl-Friday-Prince-Harry-s-assistant.html

So, who was 'briefing against' Kate in that situation?

Given that H is claiming that similar stories about M prove that the stories were being leaked by the RF...

If anyone has been looked over by the media with all the scandals it’s Andrew. I still can’t believe that there hasn’t been more in the press about Andrew given all allegations etc.

Even when that woeful Maxwell woman’s trial was going on there wasn’t too much in the press about Andrew. To my gaze I have felt for a few years now that if anyone has gotten away relatively lightly with all that’s gone in it’s Andrew.

Is there any possibility that Andrew was the one who had stories buried?

Either way he really went to town on Camilla. That won’t go over well.

Who knows it was pre-Meghan so at least this one can't be pinned on her. Point being is that the bile machinbe is spraying all over hapless H&M and are leaving off the home front. Which is the thrust of Harry's argument for those that are listening.

He's vocal about wanting an apology. Is he also prepared to apologise himself? It's all so one sided.

Same with he's not spoken to his dad and brother. Has he reached out and been rebuffed? Or is it mutual not talking. Given he has had a tv series and book could he not assume they wanted to see what was said first?

This.

Not sure if you have quoted the wrong article but there is nothing in that one to suggest Kate was difficult . The staff leaving was more to do with personal relationships .