what exactly are the royals supposed to be apologising for?

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Didn;t watch the interview last night but have seen clips on the news this morning. He is banging on about abuse and how they need to come out and apologise to both him and Meghan.

But his main gripes appear about the media - which the other royals don't control, that Meghan didn't fit in, that his older brother is more important than he is / sibling rivalry, that Kate didn't "get on" with Meghan. Vague accusations about lies being told (which he doesn't specify) by "certain members" which again he doesn't specify.

What doe he REALLY expect to happen?

Edward and Sophie have the commonwealth or that’s what the ER wanted

So on the one hand Meghan was becoming the most popular Royal and was feted on front page of newspapers...
And on the other hand the mean British press was destroying her..

.. Eh? Seems a bit contradictory.

I agree with all of this. Meghan was leaking to the press during the courtship and that's all been proven. In a structured organisation, which the RF is, you simply can't have Harry and Meghan trying to compete with, and get better headlines than, the Queen and the two directly in line to the throne. Yet consistently this is what they did, releasing stories about themselves on the same day as other more senior royals. In a commercial organisation this would be totally unacceptable; in the Royal Family it was undermining and vindictive.

In a structured organisation, which the RF is, you simply can't have Harry and Meghan trying to compete with, and get better headlines than, the Queen and the two directly in line to the throne

I don't disagree, but let's not forget the times when Charles as PoW had "his" staff briefing against Buck House, with various advisers stuck in the crossfire

Up to a point they all do it, but right now it's Harry doing all the complaining, even while doing exactly the same thing himself - and I believe it's this which sticks in a lot of folks' craws

Rich people being able to use the media in their own private PR wars is a problem, but can Harry and Meghan honestly say they have never briefed journalists or leaked stories either directly, through friends or through any of the many staff and agencies they have employed? Could he explain where the likes of Omid Scobie and People Magazine and Oprah Winfrey have been sourcing their information?

Oh, and has Harry ever felt thankful for the royal machine ensuring his success at every stage in his life (despite his inadequacies), for rescuing him from his many fuck-ups (e.g. getting into fights or whipping him away from army drug tests), for using their influence to suppress true but negative stories about him, and for ensuring he had a popular public image when he is obviously a boorish, petty, aggrieved, but also very sad, person?

From what I understand, Harry believes the RF deliberately leaked negative stories to the press. However, the one occassion where a story was leaked - his meeting with Camilla, was explained as being leaked 'unknowingly', by a PA to Camilla, who told the story to her husband, who then told the story to a journalist, with the PA accepting responsibility and resigning. A lot of the other 'leaks' are unfounded accusations.
For example, if supposing the story of the staff bullying is true, then despite the NDAs, there will be little loyalty from said staff member, who may then tell friends and family and who then leak this information anonymously to a journalist. So when Buckingham Palace are asked to comment, they can rightly say they have not leaked.
What we know is that there definitely was a high turnover of staff, and Buckingham Palace, attempted to deny the bullying claims at the time, by saying the staff left for personal reasons (which may be true).
This is an exmaple of a negative story being leaked and BP trying to protect them (at the time).

My understanding of what he said was that he wants them to "take accountability" for leaking stories. Does he expect a statement from the Palace saying they did this?

He also wants them to apologise for their "unconscious bias". But if they do indeed have unconscious bias they wouldn't know that so shouldn't have to apologise for that surely?!

In both interviews he just came across as a spoiled brat seeking his Daddy's attention. Quite sad at this point.

I think he also wants them to acknowledge and apologise that they didn't put out a statement to refute or correct false stories/narratives about Meghan.

...although he didn't do the same when all the papers inferred from the OW interview that he and M suggested the RF was racist which apparently they didnt

he really is just beginning to resemble a spoilt, putulent teenager now. I cannot take him seriously.

A documentary about W&H when they were younger noticed even then that William was prone to the odd tantrum when stressed and Harry was a 'Mummy's Boy'. He had to be next to Diana at all times, very clingy which does explain his relationship to Meghan in many ways . Appears to have projected his memory of his mother onto her & put her on the same pedestal.

Do you know what false stories about Meghan? Not being snarky. I've seen this stated a few times now but I genuinely still have no idea which stories he says were false.

I agree that this is what is at the heart of Harry's issues. Harry expected everyone to immediately gush over and worship Meghan as he does, in his mind he has elevated and placed Meghan on a very high pedestal, much like his mother Diana - saintly, above criticism and without fault. He seems to have spun a narrative around Meghan that she will end up dead at the hands of the paparazzi/evil media as he believes that is what happened to his mother and I find that very concerning.

Harry can't accept that not everyone has to feel about Meghan the way he does.

It is also very jarring the way Harry keeps saying that his family didn't think he could attract anyone like Meghan which is very dismissive and disparaging of his previous girlfriends and imo Meghan is not that special. I can't believe his family thought anything of the sort anyway having seen/known his previous girlfriends.

In Harry's mind Meghan is 'magical' not a mere mortal, I wonder how long Meghan will be able to maintain her status on that pedestal her husband has placed her on, it must be exhausting. This is not love and an equal partnership it's something else entirely and I don't think it is either (a) healthy or (b) sustainable over the long term.

I'm pretty sure they mis-reported the neighbourhood she grew up in when they first got together

Maybe the bridesmaid story...?

I'm only going on what he has said, although some things he is not all that specific about.

It's all rather reminiscent of the Duke of Windsor's attitude to Wallis Simpson, accounts of which were rather similar. It appears that she was quite taken aback that he was prepared to give up the throne for her as she didn't really view the relationship as much more than a passing fling.

It's all rather reminiscent of the Duke of Windsor's attitude to Wallis Simpson, accounts of which were rather similar. It appears that she was quite taken aback that he was prepared to give up the throne for her as she didn't really view the relationship as much more than a passing fling.

It is, @Patineur Wallis Simpson's divorce from her second husband was only made Absolute in 1937. Edward abdicated in December 1936. I think once Edward started down the road of 'You must be my Queen, it is the Throne or you' the trap was sprung on Wallis, he'd done all of that for her.

There was no fairy tale happy ever after for Wallis and Edward by all accounts they were as miserable as sin in their Paris bolt hole.