what exactly are the royals supposed to be apologising for?

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Didn;t watch the interview last night but have seen clips on the news this morning. He is banging on about abuse and how they need to come out and apologise to both him and Meghan.

But his main gripes appear about the media - which the other royals don't control, that Meghan didn't fit in, that his older brother is more important than he is / sibling rivalry, that Kate didn't "get on" with Meghan. Vague accusations about lies being told (which he doesn't specify) by "certain members" which again he doesn't specify.

What doe he REALLY expect to happen?

Some of you must be very young if you don’t remember the pics and stories of Zara hanging out of a first floor window pissed out of her nut and screeching at her then boyfriend (a jockey named Richard).

We’re the RF supposed to issue a denial?

Some people are awfully naive to take things at face value - not everyone tells the truth.

H&M did come up with a half in and out solution - e.g. Africa and it got pulled and then a second option was presented and it wasn't agreed. They tried to carve themselves into a role away from W&K but the family wouldn't have it. To be honest the RF should of just let them get on with their half in and out proposal for Africa. The RF shot themselves in the foot by doing that.

I might have misunderstood but did Harry say that they want to have a role in the Commonwealth?
I thought the late Queen gave them roles on the Commonwealth but they gave them up ?
So , are they back to wanting half in/ half out ?
I thought they were blissfully happy away from the RF ?
I am confused .

Harry has legitimate concerns, the tabloid press are awful and of course palace walls leak like a sieve.

I can’t help thinking that his own team was at it as well though from fairly early on,

He sounded articulate but he didn’t really say a great deal and it all lacks coherence, specificity and actual evidence (this was lacking in the Netflix doc as well). It’s all wordy, overblown and overly dramatic. You can find yourself drawn in when watching but you stand back, the dust settles and the inconsistencies become clear.

It’s then clear that it’s quite dull and repetitive. It’s also one-sided and overly personal and lacks reflection and nuance and is very self-centred. There wasn’t any real push back and anything that headed in that way was met by a political, media trained response.

It’s all too vague leaving the impression that all these celebrity style tell-alls are for cash. If he really wanted to make a difference he could hire hard hitting investigative journalists and go right ahead with documentaries and articles that cut out the personal, petty nonsense and focused on his points relating them to the world beyond the media and asking some big questions about finance, power, institutional relevance and values providing actual hard evidence that was checked to within an inch of its life. Not making the Netflix mistake of being a bit lazy where too many silly own goals in pictures and headlines draw everything into question.

The part I just can’t understand is that he contradicts what has dominated the last 2 years by watering down their claims that the monarchy is racist. A narrative that he says was created by the British media forgetting that it came through very strongly on the OW interview and later the Netflix doc. he also neglects to say that is was the main headline in the US media and beyond as well because it was headline worthy.

Little knob wants them to apologise for leaking stories about him and meagain - with no evidence that this actually happened and a lot of evidence that he’s as mad as a box of frogs and a raging hypocrite

What happened to empire 2 ? Now they want back in - made their money and crawling back

They didn’t want half in/ half out in Africa , they wanted it in N America ( as per their own statement) . Harry had previously said he wanted to raise his children in Africa but not sure that would suit Meghan who likes glitz and glamour.

I'd not like to have the life Harry or William has, not for a minute. Imagine being in the spotlight all your life...when you go to primary, secondary and high school- no privacy at all...that's not a life.

I also believe that its up to us to get our s* together so we don't have to worry about the fuel bill. Even better, public transport or bike is a good suggestion if one does not want to worry about fuel bill.

What has Africa done to deserve them ? Antarctic would be better

For leaking stories about them to the press. Although also William believing the press stories about Meghan being rude and abrasive. Which William is accused of leaking...

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Harry would do anything to protect his wife from attacks.

So he lays into his father's wife and brother's wife and wonders why they don't take it well.

Idiot.

Who is more likely to be "leaking stories" to the press - someone really senior like Anne, William, Camilla, Sophie, with no money worries, secure in their position, trusted member of the family, OR a minor member of staff who is on £20k a year and worked off their feet, who has been at the receiving end of a bollocking or just sees the lure of $$$ from the papers ?

Harold says "leaks from the Palace" and people automatically assume the royal family. But how many members of staff must there be? Hundreds, probably.

It just all seems like first world problems to me. No mention of the cost of living crisis and how most of us can't afford to put our heating on.

I really wish everyone would focus on the economy and how to raise everyone, rather than some squabble about not getting to wear a certain tiara.

Quarrelling with your father on the day his mother dies because you want to have it your way your wife's way is obnoxious and lack any dignity, respect and basic humanity. The male spares do see to turn out bad.

Maybe you’re looking in the wrong place for those discussions. You wouldn’t really expect to find them in the Royal Family section, would you?

Gosh yes you are right. Megan comes across very well here. She is clearly a very intelligent lady. Kate I think is the perfect royal wife. Megan is leader. I agree the senior royal wouldn't of been happy about this if what Harry says is true.

I'm sure there are a number of staff who will sell stories for money. But Harry is talking about 'royal sources' who are trying to control the narrative. Nothing to do with selling stories.

For example he talks about information leaked from private meetings between Camilla and William. And he's sure William wasn't the leak.

Yes, they were originally given senior roles in the Commonwealth. If you remember Meghan's tribute to the Commonwealth was to have the flowers of the countries embroidered on her wedding veil.
Harry said at the end of this interview that they would be happy to take on such a role again.

That ship has sailed forever.

Why are people pretending they don't understand what his issues are? It is easier to mention the beard point or bigger bedroom but it is pretty clear that he is fucked off with his family for constantly briefing the press in order to make themselves look better. He didn't feel supported or protected.

Meghan is a leader?
In what way?
I think she's a very confident, articulate woman, but I don't know what leadership skills she has shown.

Harrys issues is that only himself and Megan are allowed to leak their story's and provide narrative to the celeb world on their terms and only in a good light.

Anything negative in the so called TOXIC british media is obviously a leak from his family. Plus for a bonus anything negative from Megan's family are because they are obviously the worst family in the world (apart from her saintly mother) and were assisted by the Royals.

So basically if you are not kissing their feet with admiration and worshiping the Altar of Megsy saint Diana, your an evil in the world to be removed with the media.

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That came over loud and clear, but can you not see how vague and contradictory this is?
"Not supported" - in what way, on what occasion? What did they want?.

Oh I can see Charles giving in

He didn't feel supported or protected

He might not feel it but his misdemeanours were covered up for 20 years.