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what exactly are the royals supposed to be apologising for?

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 08:05

Didn;t watch the interview last night but have seen clips on the news this morning. He is banging on about abuse and how they need to come out and apologise to both him and Meghan.

But his main gripes appear about the media - which the other royals don't control, that Meghan didn't fit in, that his older brother is more important than he is / sibling rivalry, that Kate didn't "get on" with Meghan. Vague accusations about lies being told (which he doesn't specify) by "certain members" which again he doesn't specify.

What doe he REALLY expect to happen?

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UrsulaPandress · 09/01/2023 08:31

I only heard him saying that THE WORLD is waiting to hear from the RF. Aye right.

AlmondBake · 09/01/2023 08:32

The whole interview was about one particular gripe - how the tabloid press are stirring up trouble and how the Royal family collude with them. It seems he believes his family members are constantly leaking negative stories about him and Megan to the press, essentially to make themselves look better. The whole 1.5 hour interview was about this.

^^ This. Whether or not you accept his grievance he expressed it pretty clearly.

Boulshired · 09/01/2023 08:32

at the time it felt the biggest driving force of negative press was Meghans family. It hard to know what intentional leaked or what is loose lips. The bullying, Tiara, bridesmaids dresses could have easily come from Harry’s and Meghans staff. If you’re to believe lots of the posts about the royal family there’s lots of “a friend, of a friends 100th cousin twice removed, told me”.

Fieldfly · 09/01/2023 08:33

Why didn’t he use this opportunity to correct the lies that were told, or at least tell us which stories were untrue? Instead he has revealed a load of stuff that wasn’t previously known or even rumoured. Makes no sense!

BMW6 · 09/01/2023 08:33

Well no-one can determine whether there is any truth in his accusations as he isn't giving any specifics as evidence.

Thousands of words, absolutely no substance.
It's all woolly innuendo and paranoia by the bucket

Fieldfly · 09/01/2023 08:34

quite butterfly! He’s doing for cash!

Ricco12 · 09/01/2023 08:34

He wants the to apologise for telling the media fake stories about Megan to make the public dislike to take the spot light of Megan and back onto the No1 royals.

He already explained in his documentary the time when all the senior royals attended a event including the Queen and the next day it was Megan face on the front page attending the event. Not the Queen. Just like Diana she was becoming the UK favourite royal and that simply is not allowed so the RF had to change public views of her and to do this they were giving the press made up stories of her. That's what he wants a apology for.

Ricco12 · 09/01/2023 08:36

JustWhattheDoctorOrdered · 09/01/2023 08:19

I thought it was really clear.

He was accusing the RF family of leaking stories about him and M to the press. And not publically defending him and M when bad stories appeared.

That’s a pretty serious accusation. Isn’t it?

Yes very clear and he has said it many times, I'm not sure why people don't understand why he finds it unacceptable behaviour.

They trashed Megan to bring the focus back to the senior royals.

BMW6 · 09/01/2023 08:37

Ricco12

So can you outline what stories he means?

4thtimeunlucky · 09/01/2023 08:37

I understood his point that (some) members of the RF are planting or leaking some (unspecified) stories about him and Meghan that aren't true, primarily to either make another member of the family seem superior, or to cover negative stories about the RF. And haven't denied or corrected any false stories that may have come from other sources.

However he could probably have said as much in 15 minutes, and this seemed (to me) like a revenge tactic. TOm Bradbury asked why he was bringing up various personal incidents and his response was that this has happened to me particularly in the last 6 years why shouldn't I do it back (words to that effect)

I understand that to a degree but I don't understand that after all that, he's hoping they will apologise and reconcile. The story about Wiliam pushing him over onto the dog bowl, for example, didn't go into what led William to act in that way. (Not condoning violence btw) its unlikely that he went in spoiling for a fight but Harry doesn't mention what he might have said or done to trigger that.

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 08:38

This leaking thing - it's a serious allegation.

But this is the first we've heard of it. Up until now it's been other stuff about tiaras and tights and lipgloss and curtseying. You'd think that if the major issue is leaking stories then that would have been front and centre from the very start.

Or is it as things have gone on, that the pair of them have become more and more paranoid?

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Ricco12 · 09/01/2023 08:40

BMW6 · 09/01/2023 08:37

Ricco12

So can you outline what stories he means?

Watch the Netflix documentary, it shows the headlines he is on about.

4thtimeunlucky · 09/01/2023 08:41

It's not the first time he's mentioned it, that has been one of the major issues

Ricco12 · 09/01/2023 08:41

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 08:38

This leaking thing - it's a serious allegation.

But this is the first we've heard of it. Up until now it's been other stuff about tiaras and tights and lipgloss and curtseying. You'd think that if the major issue is leaking stories then that would have been front and centre from the very start.

Or is it as things have gone on, that the pair of them have become more and more paranoid?

The whole documentary on Netflix is about the leaking of the stories and the issue around it.

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 08:42

The whole documentary on Netflix is about the leaking of the stories and the issue around it.

I didn't watch that either. Just what's been reported on the news - which is quite a lot of stuff.

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Stickytoff · 09/01/2023 08:42

SallyWD · 09/01/2023 08:24

I watched last night's interview. I haven't watched any of the other interviews so I wanted to understand what was going on. The whole interview was about one particular gripe - how the tabloid press are stirring up trouble and how the Royal family collude with them. It seems he believes his family members are constantly leaking negative stories about him and Megan to the press, essentially to make themselves look better. The whole 1.5 hour interview was about this. If this is true, I can understand how deeply hurt he is. Imagine if your family were doing this. I can also see why he feels he has to tell his side of the story.
As I said it's the first interview I've watched and I thought he came across well. However, I do think he's gone too far in revealing deeply personal interactions with William and Charles. I feel he could have made his point without revealing so much about them. I felt he's most angry with William. I do wonder how they can ever reconcile after this.

Yes this is why he is upset. I guess if you can’t believe that this happened or if you can’t understand why your family members briefing negatively to the press against your wife might hurt then it must seem completely bonkers why he has done what he has done.

I’ve been in a little bit similar shoes in terms of experiencing family betrayal except in my family it was CSA against me in my family and genuinely people don’t get it even when the dysfunction in a family is at that scale, others genuinely expect you to just suck it up and be quiet while you have been betrayed in an awful way by your family because it is absolutely taboo to speak out about family dysfunction so I’m genuinely not surprised what Harry is experiencing.

Fieldfly · 09/01/2023 08:43

Not everyone has Netflix! What are the stories he says are untrue?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 09/01/2023 08:43

Just like Diana she was becoming the UK favourite royal and that simply is not allowed so the RF had to change public views of her and to do this they were giving the press made up stories of her. That's what he wants a apology for.

She wasn't becoming the most popular royal.

Blossomtoes · 09/01/2023 08:44

BMW6 · 09/01/2023 08:33

Well no-one can determine whether there is any truth in his accusations as he isn't giving any specifics as evidence.

Thousands of words, absolutely no substance.
It's all woolly innuendo and paranoia by the bucket

Absolutely. Any interviewer worth their salt would have pinned him down and asked him for examples of stories Camilla - who he accused of doing this - has leaked. He has no credibility whatsoever and if he thinks the way to get his dad back is to slag off his wife without providing any evidence he’s utterly bonkers.

trucklebrunch · 09/01/2023 08:44

They wanted the RF to lie for Meghan, issue statements protecting her against rumours about her behaviour and treatment of others.

William was obviously furious about her treatment of staff and must have refused to let anyone cover it up. Harry sees this as a betrayal.

Ricco12 · 09/01/2023 08:44

Fieldfly · 09/01/2023 08:43

Not everyone has Netflix! What are the stories he says are untrue?

Well there are way to many to list . Unfortunately if you don't have Netflix then I guess you won't know the full story and his grievances with his family. Confused

Fieldfly · 09/01/2023 08:44

She wasn’t becoming the ‘favourite royal’ - that was (probably still is) the Queen!

GoingOnce · 09/01/2023 08:45

The accusations against Camilla re leaking details of their first meeting was dealt with many, many years ago. Her PA was sacked over it. She was married to a media exec to whom she relayed details of the conversation - he in turn passed that snippets to a newspaper person. She publicly apologised.

Why is he rewriting history?

Also, the royal family very, very rarely respond to gossip in the press about them. Why does Harry think they should have got involved in newspaper tittle tattle re bridesmaids dresses? It’s pathetic. Once they start down that road, they would be responding to things every day. Every obscure Twitter spat, every columnist, every rumour? Is that what he expects? Madness.

TruffleShuffles · 09/01/2023 08:45

JustWhattheDoctorOrdered · 09/01/2023 08:19

I thought it was really clear.

He was accusing the RF family of leaking stories about him and M to the press. And not publically defending him and M when bad stories appeared.

That’s a pretty serious accusation. Isn’t it?

The RF can’t really defend them from the articles if they are true though, can they? He’s managed to confirm a lot of the stories that painted them in a bad light in his book himself.

The articles source probably came from the palace but I would suspect disgruntled staff rather than the RF.

BethJ62 · 09/01/2023 08:46

Ricco12 · 09/01/2023 08:36

Yes very clear and he has said it many times, I'm not sure why people don't understand why he finds it unacceptable behaviour.

They trashed Megan to bring the focus back to the senior royals.

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Did he give examples ? And who leaked them ?

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