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what exactly are the royals supposed to be apologising for?

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 08:05

Didn;t watch the interview last night but have seen clips on the news this morning. He is banging on about abuse and how they need to come out and apologise to both him and Meghan.

But his main gripes appear about the media - which the other royals don't control, that Meghan didn't fit in, that his older brother is more important than he is / sibling rivalry, that Kate didn't "get on" with Meghan. Vague accusations about lies being told (which he doesn't specify) by "certain members" which again he doesn't specify.

What doe he REALLY expect to happen?

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bloodyplanes · 09/01/2023 09:09

trucklebrunch · 09/01/2023 08:44

They wanted the RF to lie for Meghan, issue statements protecting her against rumours about her behaviour and treatment of others.

William was obviously furious about her treatment of staff and must have refused to let anyone cover it up. Harry sees this as a betrayal.

Exactly this!

Dreamstate · 09/01/2023 09:10

Somebatshitteryonhere · 09/01/2023 08:58

As much as he clearly lied, misled and gaslighted in that interview i strongly suspect some of it was steeped in truth

I think it’s highly likely that Kate and William didn’t warm to or accept Meghan, I don’t think they wanted the fab 4 at all. But to be the stars. I actually suspect Kate may have been the more resistant to sharing rhe limelight.

I don’t for one moment though believe Charles was briefing against him or jealous of Meghan. That’s batshit.

I agree. I remember when Harry & Meghan went on their first international tour and the press reaction was banging on about how they are the stars compared to W&K. I knew then that it wouldn't go down well and low and behold suddenly the press reaction flipped to the negative. Eerily similar to how when Diana went on tour and the media calling her the princess of hearts etc and her popularity was seen as a threat and low and behold the negative press then started very quickly.

NameChangeGin · 09/01/2023 09:10

If he literally just wanted to respond to the apparent leaks ... this is what I'd have done:

Write one full page spread in a paper, OR do ONE interview where I respond to each leak ... Leak 1: the bullying claim. This is not true from my opinion. What actually happened was.. leak 2: xxxxx. This is not true from my opinion. What actually happened was... Leak 3 etc... Then end with 'my wife and I will now move on. I will focus on them and my children and'.

That's it. That's all that needed to be done.

Instead the man has been on operah, netflix series, a book and several TV interview in which he doesn't talk about the content of the leaks at all - just uses them as justification to trash his family to the world. He has made strong accusation about the family from racism to physical aggression, knowing they can't defend themselves. He has publically dissed his own brother and his wife. He has told the whole world his father was a bad father. He's ignited the Taliban and he's put himself in danger.

Harry needs to face reality. Take responsibility. And go away and shut up

Maireas · 09/01/2023 09:10

I thought it was interesting that he said in the USA, the Vice President or President would challenge and demand a correction of untrue stories. However, his family would not do this for him and Meghan.
Does he genuinely think that nothing untrue is ever published in the USA, and that the RF should be constantly monitoring the press?

vera99 · 09/01/2023 09:11

This was the now infamous Fab 4 interview.

Maireas · 09/01/2023 09:12

@NameChangeGin - he's changed his mind on the racism, or claims it was the UK press saying it, not them.

Applecottagetree · 09/01/2023 09:13

The documentary on Netflix covers the press thing in more detail - basically the press rooms at the Palace would leak stories on Megan to cover up the bigger stories regarding royals (they don't say explicitly who but think we can assume Andrew). She was thrown to the wolves.

MarshaBradyo · 09/01/2023 09:13

No idea

Maireas · 09/01/2023 09:13

What struck me was - from Harry's own telling - what a concerned and caring father Charles is. I know he's made mistakes, but the love was evident from what Harry says.

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 09:14

I think also it's very unfair of him to expect Kate to befriend Meghan and become best buddies just because they are married to brothers. Kate has her own circle of friends who she has grown up with, her own sister who she is reportedly close to. Just as we don't get on with all the people we ever meet, she won't get on with all the people she ever met. Maybe Meghan and Kate did rub each other up the wrong way. But that's neither of their fault, it is what it is and friendships can't be forced.

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Maireas · 09/01/2023 09:15

Applecottagetree · 09/01/2023 09:13

The documentary on Netflix covers the press thing in more detail - basically the press rooms at the Palace would leak stories on Megan to cover up the bigger stories regarding royals (they don't say explicitly who but think we can assume Andrew). She was thrown to the wolves.

Or "fed to the wolves".
The trouble is, what's the evidence?
How do we know this happened? This is the problem.

vera99 · 09/01/2023 09:15

Just watching that video now for the body language. Meghan blows Kate off the stage one can only imagine the wash up session after particularly when you put hierarchy into the mix. The late Queen would have been horrified about being on a panel and rightly so.

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 09:16

And if the stories were leaked to "cover up" the Andrew stuff, it didn't work, did it?

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vera99 · 09/01/2023 09:16

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 09:14

I think also it's very unfair of him to expect Kate to befriend Meghan and become best buddies just because they are married to brothers. Kate has her own circle of friends who she has grown up with, her own sister who she is reportedly close to. Just as we don't get on with all the people we ever meet, she won't get on with all the people she ever met. Maybe Meghan and Kate did rub each other up the wrong way. But that's neither of their fault, it is what it is and friendships can't be forced.

Does Kate have friends ?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 09/01/2023 09:17

He said the Press fabricated the "fab four" so that they had something to tear into/tear apart at a later date

He said the papers are full of drama and basically bullshit, but these lines the breakfast tables in every royal household, so even those inside the truth are fed the yarns and start to become influenced by it.

He said its commonplace that the higher ups trash the ones coming up below - stories and drama surrounded W&K which came from C&Cs office, then when H&M became a thing, it then moved down a step.

Maireas · 09/01/2023 09:17

Also, Louis was born - what - 3 weeks before the wedding? Kate was either pregnant or immediately post partum when all this was going on. Meghan was also probably anxious etc, so it's kind to cut people a bit of slack.

Fladdermus · 09/01/2023 09:18

I think he's off his rocker. He's seeing slights in everything everyone else does but is absolutely oblivious to the utter plank he is being. Like complaining about how the family were horrible to him on the day the Queen died. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. But one thing we know for sure is that he was absolutely bloody horrid to them. Arguing with his dad, whose mother was dying, because he couldn't get his own way. Fart arsing around about Meghan causing delay and distress to others who are trying to get to their mother before she died. But he's the victim apparently.

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 09:20

vera99 · 09/01/2023 09:15

Just watching that video now for the body language. Meghan blows Kate off the stage one can only imagine the wash up session after particularly when you put hierarchy into the mix. The late Queen would have been horrified about being on a panel and rightly so.

Meghan is a trained performer and Kate isn't. That doesn't make one better than the other though does it? Why do Harry and Meghan have to make it into a competition?

They could have come up with some sort of thing whereby Harry and Meghan had their own charities and causes and did "good work" and they could have made a massive difference to the lives of all sorts of people in the UK and worldwide. "Performing" by giving speeches or campaigning or doing the glossy TV and press stuff which WIlliam and Kate aren't as comfortable in doing. But to do that they would have had to accept that they were both second fiddle - bit like Edward and Sophie - and that's not what they wanted/expected.

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Maireas · 09/01/2023 09:21

I think that's the problem @Fladdermus .
Others have treated them badly, they just want to tell the truth. They are beyond reproach. Maybe things were handled badly at the death of HMQ, but for goodness sake, why should Harry and Meghan be front and centre of concerns?

Jafffffacakes · 09/01/2023 09:21

I’m clear on some things and have some sympathy but with others it’s just wtaf?!

if the RF were briefing against them them that is bad. However what about their use of Scobie? He is their de facto mouthpiece …so it’s equal in my view.

not sure how the RF are supposed to react to the Clarkson thing (which was vile) as they (H and M) are trying to be private citizens and not part of the machine. A machine they seem to despise unless it suits them and their narrative.

he’s very messed up bless him.

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HufflepuffRavenclaw · 09/01/2023 09:21

Does Kate have friends ?

I'm sure she does. A small circle of people she has known a long time, or who are mutual friends of them both. The fact you don't hear about them or from them speaks volumes.

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JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 09/01/2023 09:23

“Hi Haz, Dad here. Look, really sorry you won’t get to be king and wear the shiny head gear and sit in a big chair. Never mind, you’re still a multimillionaire who’ll never have to worry about a fuel bill, budget to feed a family of four, wait for NHS treatment or even worse - travel economy on a plane. I know it’s really tough being you. I can only apologise profusely that you were born into a life of privilege and that you’ve missed out on living on a social housing estate. Life is so unfair sometimes isn’t it? Some people get all the luck.”

dustydewdrop · 09/01/2023 09:24

Goodness me, Meghan’s own family don’t have a good word to say about her really and were more than happy to do interviews which didn’t portray her in the best light. The Royal Family wouldn’t have had to do a thing. Maybe, just maybe, she isn’t a nice person 🤷🏻‍♀️

I certainly won’t take what H and M say as gospel now after their backtracking on the racism issue.

Blossomtoes · 09/01/2023 09:27

Does Kate have friends ?

Of course she does but, because they’re loyal and don’t go blabbing to the media about her, we don’t know who they are. I imagine Harry’s friends, who have kept his secrets and shown utter and complete loyalty to him are wondering why the hell they bothered this week.

SnowlayRoundabout · 09/01/2023 09:28

They're obviously supposed to apologise for the fact that he is "spare". They should have thrown William over a cliff as soon as Harry turned up, because he is so obviously a better king.