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William and Harry at Prince Philips Funeral

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SuperFi · 08/01/2023 11:59

I don’t usually post on this board, but I found the account of what passed between William and Harry at Prince Philips funeral to be heartbreaking. Especially when William tries to keep hold of Harry and tells him that he loves him.

Where will it all end?

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Coucous · 14/01/2023 15:41

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Coxspurplepippin · 14/01/2023 15:43

Bit like Harry then.

Blossomtoes · 14/01/2023 15:48

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You know this how?

MonsoonMadness · 14/01/2023 19:36

CPL593H · 08/01/2023 12:16

I actually felt quite tearful this morning reading it, the "on Mummy's life" that Harry himself says was their code for being totally serious. The whole scene read strongly to me that William wasn't angry but really, really upset and desperate for him to listen.

So, so private though and yet again I think something that should have remained so.

Agree with this. Harry is trying to paint his family as villains who don't care, but he cites plenty of examples of William and Charles trying to get through to him. He reminds me of someone who has been brainwashed by a cult. William also says to him that the strain and worry has made him really ill. That seems to go right over Harry's head.

WinnieTheW0rm · 14/01/2023 20:03

Hbh17 · 14/01/2023 14:23

I read a book extract that said Harry suggested a private wedding in Africa, then agreed it wouldn't be possible. But that he then suggested both Westminster Abbey and St Paul's - and William had to tell him that St Paul's would be too grand, also "Pa and Mummy did it there". So the kindest interpretation is that Harry was both contradictory AND up for a big, fancy wedding.
(There are many other things one might say about Harry, but still....).

No options occurred to him between a cathedral in London and abroad?

That seems a little limited/unimaginative

mixedrecycling · 14/01/2023 20:17

notanotheroneagain · 08/01/2023 15:18

Or maybe she is appreciative that he actually remembers her and what he had done. And recognises her as a person.

I remember reading a book from Walter Sisulu (one of Nelson Mandela prison mates). He recounts how his father - who was white, was assigned to his village for magistrate duties. He fell in love and 'married' his mother and they had kids. They were a family and the apartheid government was not happy (ofcourse), so they reassigned him to Pretoria. He never kept in touch with her nor his kids. Fastforward a few years later, he goes to his court and looks him in the eye. He never recognised him at all ! I found this so heartbreaking.

I also watched films/ read real life when someone rapes a woman and does not even recognise them later. Just a speck in their lives.

Perhaps H has had some aspects when he cannot remember, who knows. But, I am really happy with him acknowledging and recognising this woman.

Don't get this twisted either, I am not saying the situations have the same effect, but the first start is acknowledging what you have done to someone . I'm not seeing much of that in the RF.

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Did he find her and ask her consent?

If not, he is a exploiting her yet again by including her in his book.

Soapnutty · 14/01/2023 21:03

HaroldeVwilliam · 14/01/2023 08:34

Marsha I don't know where it came from but at a time when a new novel virus'is sweeping the UK with our government turning a blind eye whilst hundreds started to die in places like Italy and our NHS struggling in good times with no equipment I didn't find it funny.
As the parent of a child who had been let down by medics three times and rushed to a and e , I thought it was crass. Even in normal times it had been a struggle to get someone to assess my child.

Considering he will have immediate medical help for himself and his family.

Obviously he will never have had to go through the 8.30.am scrambled to get a docs appointment when you are stuck in a queue of 3o and then it's too late they have all gone. So you do it again at 2pm etc etc

William made this comment on on 3rd March and asked the person (a doctor?) whether the threat of covid was being a little hyped up by the media? To be fair on 3rd March cases of covid in the U.K. were still low and a many at that time wondered if it was being hyped up as a threat in Europe. I bet 2 weeks later he would have had a v different opinion as it became clear Covid was spreading across Europe at an alarming rate.

Unloved21 · 14/01/2023 21:17

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In the very early days the advice was not to wear a mask. Seeing the then PoW wearing a mask would most likely have caused even more shortages. He had COVID in Mar 2020. He opened the first nightingale hospital in April 2020 via a video link. Which one did he visit in person?

Blossomtoes · 14/01/2023 21:35

Which one did he visit in person?

None of them. There are some memories on MN as faulty as Harry’s.

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/01/2023 21:42

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-nightingale-hospital-opened-by-prince-charles-11967757

Sky news confirming that A) Charles had completed his self isolation before the first Nightingale Hospital even opened and B) that he opened it via videolink from Birkhall

Samcro · 14/01/2023 21:47

A quick google and you can find loads of stories of PW not wearing a mask

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/01/2023 21:52

Samcro · 14/01/2023 21:47

A quick google and you can find loads of stories of PW not wearing a mask

The PP was talking about Charles

Blossomtoes · 14/01/2023 21:52

Samcro · 14/01/2023 21:47

A quick google and you can find loads of stories of PW not wearing a mask

Maybe we could see some links?

Placcyboel · 14/01/2023 21:56

William allegedly does not wear a mask. Harry allegedly wanks off using Elizabeth Arden cream. All a bit scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

SirVixofVixHall · 14/01/2023 22:04

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That seems unlikely to me. She is divorced and had also converted to Judaism, so they had good reasons to avoid the massive white wedding . They could have had a more low key blessing quite easily.

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/01/2023 22:09

Placcyboel · 14/01/2023 21:56

William allegedly does not wear a mask. Harry allegedly wanks off using Elizabeth Arden cream. All a bit scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

The EA cream is actually from spare. The audio of it is quite disturbing

Ohnonevermind · 14/01/2023 22:51

@Coucous

there is absolutely no evidence in the real world to support a narrative that Meghan wanted a small wedding.

Meghan wanted a launch pad to a* list, and a small wedding wouldn’t have achieved that

misteek · 14/01/2023 22:52

The Spencer Tiara belongs to the spencer family, and Charles Spencer didnt want meg to wear it.

MonsoonMadness · 14/01/2023 23:03

misteek · 14/01/2023 22:52

The Spencer Tiara belongs to the spencer family, and Charles Spencer didnt want meg to wear it.

Harry says in the book that his Aunts offered it to her. She chose the tiara from the Queens collection instead.

radrado · 14/01/2023 23:13

Laughing at the thought that Meghan actually wanted a small wedding! Do you really believe that? Whose choice do you think it was to invite Clooney, Oprah et al? Not Harry’s I’m sure. Don’t be mugs.

Pastryapronsucks · 14/01/2023 23:20

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My Dad is an out an out racist, my Mother, whilst not hostile is also racist. Does that mean my whole family is now eternaly damned as racists on their behalf, even when they are long gone?

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/01/2023 23:34

Pastryapronsucks · 14/01/2023 23:20

My Dad is an out an out racist, my Mother, whilst not hostile is also racist. Does that mean my whole family is now eternaly damned as racists on their behalf, even when they are long gone?

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If we're all going to be attributed the views of relatives 2 and 3 generations before us, some of whom we aren't even descended from, then I'm pretty sure none of us are going to smell fragrant

Chasedbythechaser · 15/01/2023 01:59

She was introduced to Harry by Eugenie and Beatrice - neither of them get along with Kate

Why don't they get along with Kate? Presumably they don't get along with William either than. Interesting.

Like most things in life, I imagine much of the book is true but some is embellished. I do believe H&M were used as scapegoats and H's fecklessness was used to highlight how 'good' William was. Sadly its continuing already with the next generation. The press are being told to filter George's words while Louis is being portrayed as being a handful.

William has always come across as petulant so the beard story doesn't surprise me in the least. The BP PR team do their utmost but both men are entitled and arrogant.

toomuchlaundry · 15/01/2023 02:06

When did Eugenie and Beatrice introduce Meghan to Harry? How did she profess to not know who he was if she knew his Royal cousins?

MonsoonMadness · 15/01/2023 06:53

As he said in the Netflix thing, he saw M on Instagram with someone he knew. Not Eugenie. He asked this person to introduce them. By chance (?) M knew Eugenie I think through Soho House. I don’t think Beatrice was a friend .
However, yes, of course she knew who he was. Either that or she didn’t know Eugenie all that well.