I'm feeling a bit sorry for Harry

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I feel like he needs his mum more than ever. To put an arm round him and say "enough son".

He needs guidance, he's never had maternal guidance. Its well documented that Williams life has been really enhanced by Kates parents. Harry has never had that and i feel sorry for him.

If it happened as it’s been reported by their spokesperson, then imo it makes their security and NYPD look incompetent.

As I’ve said I think they were harassed but it’s been exaggerated in the heat & stress of the incident and likely triggering for Harry.

Harry was filming on his phone and Backgrid will know who sold them photos so identifying the paps would be straightforward if the police wished to investigate.
The Backgrid statement suggests that the Sussex security behaved dangerously which is surprising from experienced personnel.
It will be interesting to see if they sue or the police decide to make further comments after reviewing traffic cams.

A few months ago in NY Harry was being escorted by security with Glocks in cases and now it sounds like a couple of clowns were in charge

Did Harry get what he paid for with a bargain bin security team or does he want the world to think private security isn’t adequate ?

They moved to a taxi with the thought that they would blend in with other taxis but were thwarted when they got blocked in my a lorry. It didn’t work so they went back to the police station.

I think minds are being made up about Harry Meghan and the car chase before any of us know the full story. Lots of suppositions going on here.

I don’t normally watch Piers Morgan and only watched the bit where he was interviewing the cab driver, but his questions were pretty biased. He was obviously digging for dirt and could get none. Digging right up till the end when he asked the cabbie did M&H pay him? No one is going to ask that question unless they are looking to make H&M guilty of something. Of course they would have paid the cab driver - they used up to 15 minutes of the man’s time going to the end of the block, then circling the block - back to the police station.

For me, the biggest stand out of the British Media coverage is that it looks to be trying very hard to implicate the couple in a lie, somehow, in anyway they can. No coincidence that Harry is suing a number of them.

For me, the biggest stand out of the British Media coverage is that it looks to be trying very hard to implicate the couple in a lie, somehow, in anyway they can. No coincidence that Harry is suing a number of them.

The local coverage in NY is every bit as cynical as the coverage in the UK!

https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/harry-and-meghans-car-chase-claim-hurts-credibility-the-view-hosts/

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/world/europe/harry-meghan-paparazzi-media.html

They had a police escort for a period of time and then they left them. The paparazzi themselves confirm that there was dangerous driving - they say it was Harry’s team doing the dangerous driving (and they would wouldn’t they). (It makes sense as to why they went to the police station for help when they realised they could shake them - they didn’t still have a police escort)

To be fair if Harry’s team were trying to evade paparazzi then I think it’s quite possible that there was some dangerous driving in order to do so. It’s not right but it’s understandable.

I don't know what the thinking was about moving into a taxi. I'd think anyone with a noodle in their head could see that the paps are experienced in moving through traffic and seeing what's going on, and the speed a taxi can get up to in NYC isn't going to be able to evade detection. You'd think getting blocked in would be a highly anticipated likelihood. I've only been to NY a couple of times but I never saw a free flow of traffic anywhere.

I was just responding to your point that they were only in the taxi a short time. It would seem obvious they'd be more nervous in an exposed yellow cab than in their private tank of an suv.

The Piers Morgan interview of the taxi driver was important because it confirms several things - they were being followed, it was more than usual and they were worried and the interview was with someone no one could possibly ever say was sympathetic to them.

The paparazzi themselves confirm that there was dangerous driving - they say it was Harry’s team doing the dangerous driving (and they would wouldn’t they).

To be fair, wouldn't both besides be likely to claim that the other was in the wrong? I don't know why one has more credence than the other when we know Scobie spoke to their protection team and reported that Harry's team drove at 80mph down FDR Drive. I don't think either of them come out of this in a shower of glory.

But we really need to wait to see the footage of the paps driving down pavements, almost hitting pedestrians and police that will inevitably emerge. It's impossible with that massive population and so many tourists that they won't have been filmed. But if by chance they haven't, the police cctv or private cctv will have filmed it.

Well the coverage in NY shows that people who actually live in the city take a pretty dim view of Harry and Meghan's exaggerated claims and hyperbolic language

IMO they have either employed an utterly incompetent security team or set this up to support their security case.

So they were driving twice the speed limit down the FDR at 80 mph, while Harry filmed all the ‘drama’ on his phone

That's not quite what the taxi driver said in the interview I saw. He said he wouldn't call it a chase. That exaggerates it. There were two cars following them but not unsafely and they would pull up next to them at lights and take photos. He said that part was a quite usual. He said when they were in the car in a traffic jam, they were swarmed by (6) photographers. The use of the word 'swarmed' makes it sound more than usual. But I don't know how many 6 is more than usual. Again, he says they were not scary. And we can see from the video that they backed off when the security guy got out of the cab and asked them to step away.
The taxi driver seemed a pleasant, honest, straight up guy. He was sympathetic and positive towards Harry et al. I don't know why his story can't be believed In its entirety. That Harry et al were nervous but in reality nothing dangerous happened.

So they were driving twice the speed limit down the FDR at 80 mph, while Harry filmed all the ‘drama’ on his phone

while not wearing seatbelts! That alone absolute beggars belief.

Well he is right - there wasn’t a chase in the 10 - 15 minutes they were with him.

The paparazzi themselves confirm that there was a chase prior to the taxi and they have also confirmed dangerous driving (insofar as to say that it was Harry’s team who were driving dangerously). Both things happened that night.

Best to take the Sussex melodramas with a healthy pinch of salt

Even Jason Bourne couldn’t manage a high speed chase in New York

I think whoever wrote the statement for the spokesperson needs to - well I’m not sure what, but calling it “near catastrophic” has led to more mockery than anything else. It’s the wording of the statement that has made them look silly and melodramatic. A more measured approach with calm facts would look less shrieky and more professional.

in fact, if I’d been them and those photos appeared in UK papers, a quick email from lawyers would have had them down privately.

Now because of the insinuation they are trying to draw parallels to Diana AGAIN, in a situation where not so much as a pavement seems to have been mounted, they are the PR buffoons of the week.

I don’t know who is in charge of their PR but whoever it is is so bad, it’s like they’ve been planted by a guffawing Kensington Palace.

@DuchessOfPort

I think the new agency is giving them the kardasian melodrama treatment

Harry wants free security so is going along with it. The new bunch aren’t a patch on the ones he has in January in NY. Perhaps his publisher paid the bill for those

But the antics distracted from the frankly terrible speech and cemented Meghan as our Queen of Hertz

Did you read what I wrote?

yes

and I disagree.

At no point did I say that any collision or any injury occurred. Neither did they
but you said there were multiple traffic violations, yet the NYPD have made no arrests.

As I said everyone is saying the same thing - you just don’t want to believe it
everyone is saying they exaggerated greatly. You just don’t want to believe it.

the statement was designed to whip up media frenzy.
the facts showed a very different story
NY media now taking about Duke of Hazard, Harry Plotter - because they don’t believe the Sussex story.

"Did Harry get what he paid for with a bargain bin security team or does he want the world to think private security isn’t adequate ?"

This is the question.
The timing is convenient with his current court case against the Home Office regarding his security. I'm sure the HO Lawyers are watching with interest.

It’s terribly convenient, isn’t it?

the only problem is - nobody believes this latest incident isn’t greatly exaggerated.

it’s an own goal.

Prince Harry used ‘Buda security’ for local transport needs according to a report I read

Buda security work on things like transporting ‘scabs’ though union lines and have 2 stars out of 5 on google.

They sound cheap as chips and out of their depth.

Nope. Because like everything else it was a publicity seeking stunt