Page 5 | Meghan 'offended' for telling Kate she had 'baby brain'

fartichoke · 2023-01-05T13:27:55+00:00

Well, the Daily Fail have got their hands on a Spanish copy of the ''memoir'', so there is going to be shrapnel flying about from now until kingdom come. One of these ''revelations'' is that Meghan made a joke about Kate having ''baby brain hormones'' a month after having Louis, which upset Kate, which in turn then upset Meghan. Can you imagine the Oprah-style feeding frenzy had this been reversed - Kate telling Meghan that she had baby brain and hormones, which would have perfectly tapped into the villainous ice queen depiction that H&M are flogging right now? Harry is soap operatising the royal family in the most sensational and tabloid dripfeed way possible (calling his brother his 'archnemesis'. He is shockingly narcissistic, if he thinks this is not also going to also blow up on him and Meghan. The hypocrisy and whole thing is a shit show.

gretchinella · 05/01/2023 15:20

supernova1234 · 05/01/2023 13:49

But it depends on how it is said. Context and tone of voice is key.

For instance, if I forgot where my keys are shortly after giving birth, and someone said in a nice way "don't worry, you must still have baby brain", I wouldn't mind.

If I gave my opinion on a political matter shortly after giving birth and someone remarked "oh my god, that's ridiculous, you must still have baby brain", I would be offended.

Agreed, context really is key.

I remember having baby brain and used to joke about it. Meghan may have said it in jest, who knows, and didn't mean to offend. 🤷🏼‍♀️. Kate hardly comes across as someone jovial and you can have a proper laugh with IMO. She's guarded and wooden at times. I think Kate has her eye on the prize just as much as Meghan but is so much more suited to Royal life. There's a clash of personalities between them it seems.

Having said that, like most people, I am utterly tired of hearing about this and really hope after the book is published, nothing more will come out. Harry is doing himself no favours by continually whining about his family. Some things should be kept private.

vera99 · 05/01/2023 15:22

Well personally I'm looking forward to Kate's TED Talk about using colour creatively in family situations. Oh and her chopsticks piano concerto in morris-minor.

TheLadyofShalott1 · 05/01/2023 15:24

Serenster · 05/01/2023 13:51

Looking back at what Meghan said on Oprah on this is illuminating, given I presume we have to take Harry’s account as the closest to the truth we have yet had. Meghan denied she had made Kate cry and said:

“The reverse happened…it made me cry and it really hurt my feelings. It was a really hard week of the wedding and she was upset about something but she owned it and she apologised”

So, the “something” that Kate was upset about was actually Meghan being rude to her. And when Kate called her on that, Meghan declared her feelings were hurt and she cried. And then told the world via Oprah that it was Kate who was the baddie here (and that the Palace were lying in not stopping the press stories that Meghan had made Kate cry, nonetheless!).

i wonder if they have any idea how bad this explanation makes Meghan look?

I have tried to believe in, and stand up for Meghan, ever since people started saying horrible things about her before she had even married Harry. None of it during those intervening years could be substantiated, they were always put down to having come from one Palace source or another. But now that they are coming out through Meghan's and Harry's own words, I unfortunately have to believe them.

This is my long winded and rather sad way of saying to you @Serenster, that I now have to agree with you.I don't understand at all how they cannot realise that these words actually confirm most of the rumours, and make Meghan (and therefore Harry also), look very bad indeed.

MalagaNights · 05/01/2023 15:25

rarge · 05/01/2023 15:19

Why are people more outraged at this than the William confrontation?

Why does anyone believe this happened, when they don't believe that incident?

Oh I believe it all happened but that we're only getting half the story and the half that paints H&M in the best light.

With every story I think: ok and what are you not telling us?

This is partly because they don't do any self reflection and only portray themselves as innocent victims so we have to fill in ourselves/ speculate on what's missing.

WeWereInParis · 05/01/2023 15:25

It makes Meghan look bad because of what she said, but it also makes both her and Harry look bad because they made such a thing about "why didn't the palace correct this record, why did they let this lie stand" etc etc.

Ohnonevermind · 05/01/2023 15:25

Meghan is unable to joke and quick to take offence (per her own Spotify podcasts) and other appearances

why would you say this probably in front of strangers (designers and Meghan’s own friends etc)

vera99 · 05/01/2023 15:27

Naunet · 05/01/2023 14:44

They’re all a bunch of privileged spoilt brats, this is the definition of first world problems!
Got me wondering the other day, why on earth do royal families even exist, all across the world? Is it in human nature to need to put someone on a pedestal? Have we now replaced them with celebrities so no longer need royals? Just such a weird concept when you think about it.

Oops an inconvenient truth who the feck are these people and why the hell should they have a single penny of taxoayers money for mouthing platitudes and wearing fancy dress now and again.

pocketvenuss · 05/01/2023 15:27

bakalava · 05/01/2023 14:41

I wonder if Kate's nanny leaked that? It is okay for a mum to joke about it to another mum she knows well but a geriatric second timer bride saying it to a mum of three who is the same age as her sounds catty and insecure af. It does not surprise me in the least. Meghan does see herself as being much, much younger than she is, rather than an older mum which is where the "five young mums" delusional comment came from.

Remarkable how you dint see the irony. Calling someone geriatric and second time bride in a callous manner then accusing them of being catty 🤣

Megan1992xx · 05/01/2023 15:28

A bloke who wears a necklace, 'oh Mommy he broke my necklace!' probably wears a pair of Meghan's panties as well!

FirThusThraed · 05/01/2023 15:28

theveg · 05/01/2023 13:35

For a self proclaimed feminist that's a pretty sexist remark from Meghan no?

Also from a self professed anti bullying campaigner . It is a disgusting thing to say.

WeWereInParis · 05/01/2023 15:29

pocketvenuss · 05/01/2023 14:31

As I have no idea what the preceding conversation was or the tone it was said in I have no way of knowing if the comment was respectful, fun, joking, aggressive or well meaning. It could be all these or none.

I don't see how it could be respectful but it could clearly have been a joke. However, if I make a joke like that and it upsets someone, I apologise. I don't make out like it's their fault. I don't think being offended by that comment is particularly unreasonable of Kate, so if I were Meghan I'd have thought "shit, didn't mean to upset her! I hope she accepts my apology."

JamSandle · 05/01/2023 15:29

Why does this need to be public? It hardly even seems worth mentioning.

FirThusThraed · 05/01/2023 15:32

Motelschmotel · 05/01/2023 14:59

I wonder if Harry was there, in the dress fitting room, and heard the "baby brain" interchange for himself. Or whether he is telling a story he heard from Meghan. Latter seems more likely. In which case....what on earth was he thinking putting it in print?! Is he really that dim??

It would appear so. He is blinded by his own pique.

CocoC · 05/01/2023 15:34

Kedece2410 · 05/01/2023 13:44

Not necessarily. There are & have been other 'spares' who seem perfectly happy with their life

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Absolutely! Look at Anne (and her children), by far the most sensible of the bunch, and seem perfectly happy!
Historically, all second sons of any landed gentry types have always been 'spares', it is what you make of it (though utterly disgusting of Charles, as the father, to use that word).

For most people, if they could live a millionaire's lifestyle like he does, for no work and limited responsibility (unlike William), they would bite your hand off. Getting to travel, go to amazing events, not worry about heating/next meal / paying the mortgage, being able to spend time watching your kids grow up.... compared to all the MNers on here who are working about 3 jobs and still struggling... Yes, the media are a nightmare, but honestly, it is as big a problem as you make it.... if you don't read it, and it will bother you a lot less! And clearly, they can't be that bothered about media intrusion, or they wouldn't be stirring it up the way they are now. They have never had as much coverage as the one they are now generated themselves!!

bakalava · 05/01/2023 15:37

ReneBumsWombats · 05/01/2023 14:45

Why was it less acceptable just because Meghan is divorced and had a child while over 35?

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Because she would know sweet FA about the condition she was supposedly diagnosing in an experienced mum. But that doesn't surprise me.

goodbyestranger · 05/01/2023 15:40

I thought the story was that Meghan knew that William's affair was causing Kate upset so that the comment about baby brain was a way to say ok no worries about your aggy behaviour, baby brain type of thing rather than refer to the real cause.

bakalava · 05/01/2023 15:43

Wow thats a reach!! Cue months of stan threads about how H & M are VICTIMS of NF and wronged by them despite negotiating the deal and eagerly grabbing the millions. There will probably be one saying that the ghost author, the RF and NF are all in bed together conspiring to silence the saviours.

SallyLockheart · 05/01/2023 15:45

goodbyestranger · 05/01/2023 15:40

I thought the story was that Meghan knew that William's affair was causing Kate upset so that the comment about baby brain was a way to say ok no worries about your aggy behaviour, baby brain type of thing rather than refer to the real cause.

what a load of made up bollocks.

MalagaNights · 05/01/2023 15:47

Being the spare is probably a bit of a test of character.

If you have a strong sense of self what you want to do with your life and what your values are, then you'll probably thrive with the opportunity and freedom it gives.

If however you have a weak sense of self, rely on lots of external validation, have no clear path you want to pursue & feel unsure about your values, then you'll probably flounder blame others, feel hard done by and become bitter.

Harry might have actually been good as king, if given a role to fulfill he may have risen to it. Just as the army suited him. But he's struggling to find his own identity separate from the family.

Maybe that's where the jealousy with William really lies: William has a role to structure his life, Harry has to find his on his own and he's failing.

PicturesOfDogs · 05/01/2023 15:47

goodbyestranger · 05/01/2023 15:40

I thought the story was that Meghan knew that William's affair was causing Kate upset so that the comment about baby brain was a way to say ok no worries about your aggy behaviour, baby brain type of thing rather than refer to the real cause.

What, the story you just made up?

Who had heard about the baby brain comment until today?

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 05/01/2023 15:48

I thought the story was that Meghan knew that William's affair was causing Kate upset so that the comment about baby brain was a way to say ok no worries about your aggy behaviour, baby brain type of thing rather than refer to the real cause.

Did you really.

MalagaNights · 05/01/2023 15:49

MalagaNights · 05/01/2023 15:47

Being the spare is probably a bit of a test of character.

If you have a strong sense of self what you want to do with your life and what your values are, then you'll probably thrive with the opportunity and freedom it gives.

If however you have a weak sense of self, rely on lots of external validation, have no clear path you want to pursue & feel unsure about your values, then you'll probably flounder blame others, feel hard done by and become bitter.

Harry might have actually been good as king, if given a role to fulfill he may have risen to it. Just as the army suited him. But he's struggling to find his own identity separate from the family.

Maybe that's where the jealousy with William really lies: William has a role to structure his life, Harry has to find his on his own and he's failing.

Wrong thread 😬
Vaguely relevant though...

ShirleyPhallus · 05/01/2023 15:50

I do believe everything harry and meghan say… but what a twist that actually the “thing” Kate was upset about was Meghan being rude to her. And she was rude with that comment.

how juicy.

Sallyandsam · 05/01/2023 15:51

Bloody hell. Kate was either heavily pregnant or had just given birth and her future SIL weaponised that against her. No wonder Kate was in tears.

Yet Kate still took Meghan flowers when Meghan objected to being pulled up on her comment.

Am baffled why Harry would include a description of his wife being such a complete bitch in his book.

bakalava · 05/01/2023 15:51

Harry doesn't want to be king. It's hard work compared to smoking a joint and playing polo with your mates in the sun. However, the jealously has arisen because he doesn't want William to be King either and succeed in a major royal role where he failed in a minor one. Ditton the wives.
Imagine if he was credible and managed to sink the monarchy. Then it would be 'Look at us two with our tans grinning (with our perfectly veneered gnashers from our Golden State mansion) at those pale, wrinkled dejected racists who have gone into exile and lost their status.