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Harry alleges that Kate & Wills "encouraged him to wear Nazi uniform."

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Abigail69 · 05/01/2023 10:22

Whatever next?
I try to avoid these stories but why say this now?

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/05/prince-harry-spare-prince-william-princess-wales-kate-nazi-uniform/

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BradfordGirl · 05/01/2023 12:53

I think they are all racist and massively dysfunctional family. If they were not rich they would be at home on Shameless.

latetothefisting · 05/01/2023 12:56

This will probably get lost amongst the outrage but just in case - there are 2 different parties

A joint friends birthday was the "natives and colonials" one in 2005 where William dressed as a leopard and Harry as a nazi officer.

Williams own 21st birthday was in 2003 with the theme "out of africa" - that's the one where william allegedly dressed as an African war chief. I say allegedly because I haven't seen anything to confirm what he was wearing but articles from the time suggest pretty much all the attendees, including the Queen and the rest of the royal family were in fancy dress, many of which (a banana and "colonial style" atire) would be considered inappropriate even then and definitely today.

Fancy dress parties often skirt the boundaries of taste in my opinion- I thought Adele having a titanic themed party, for example was pretty inappropriate but most people didn't have an issue with that. Same with ww2 themed fancy dress -ive never really underdtood why getting kids to dress as evacuees is celebratory. I think the vast majority of people would agree that a nazi uniform is never appropriate though.

SilverGlassHare · 05/01/2023 12:56

IF it’s true, definite shades of this moment from Friends:

Harry alleges that Kate & Wills "encouraged him to wear Nazi uniform."
3peassuit · 05/01/2023 12:57

When did he turn into a sanctimonious wet blanket who seems incapable of taking any responsibility for his own actions? Was he always like this but protected by the palace machine so we, the public, just believed the fiction that he was the fun loving good guy?

Boulshired · 05/01/2023 13:01

Chinesewhisperss · 05/01/2023 12:52

I don't think he's blaming them at all... I think what he's highlighting is the fact that his brother condoned it yet got zero flack for it and it kinda echoes the fact that he says they lived in a bubble- clearly the fact that William thought it was just as ok as Harry did says something. I think anything Harry does at this point aside from jumping off a cliff, ditching his wife and kids or never speaking again would be condemned by the British public and media.

Why would his brother of previously got flack for Harry wearing a costume when the allegations are only coming out now

Viviennemary · 05/01/2023 13:04

Harry hasn't done himself any favours here. It's just getting worse.Hiw long is this going to go on. William said Meghan was difficut rude and abrasive. Hmm. Just heard it on Sky news.

ArcaneWireless · 05/01/2023 13:04

He must think we all button up the back.

Harry alleges that Kate & Wills "encouraged him to wear Nazi uniform."
potniatheron · 05/01/2023 13:05

BradfordGirl · 05/01/2023 11:11

There were two parties. One William was dressed as a leopard. It is the other party there are allegations around.

Well, as long as he wasn't blacked up like Justin Trudeau did on 3 separate occasions, it's no biggie I don't think.

I once dressed up as a ancient Egyption queen. Obvs wouldn't do so now but, ya know.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 05/01/2023 13:08

In yesterday’s Times:

Harry alleges that Kate & Wills "encouraged him to wear Nazi uniform."
ArcaneWireless · 05/01/2023 13:11

That about says it all eh?

oakleaffy · 05/01/2023 13:11

Harry was TWENTY.
Surely old enough to know about the atrocities of the Nazis.

He cannot, surely be that insufferably dim to realise that a Nazi uniform would not be a good idea.

But instead of taking responsibility for his ill~ considered actions, he seeks to lay blame.

''William and Catherine made me wear it!''

Harry is just for ever blaming others for his own poor decisions.

WinnieFosterReads · 05/01/2023 13:15

I'd want a refund from my therapist if I was Harry. He never takes responsibility and that means he'll never learn or find peace. Is it an US therapy approach or just a very rubbish UK one who didn't want to challenge a prince? Because I've never known someone to have such a lack of self-awareness after so much therapy.
I also really hope H is being paid by the Russians or the US government. It would be silly to put so much effort into trashing the UK's constitutional monarchy for free.

whynotwhatknot · 05/01/2023 13:17

sorry wasnt he a grown man-noone forced him

im fed up of this cry baby now-i know its excerpt from the book but hes not helping himself

JoyPeaceSleep · 05/01/2023 13:19

ThePoshUns · 05/01/2023 10:39

He really is pathetic.
' They made me do it'.
I wish this man child would take some responsibility for his actions and bore off.

Yeh this latest "they made me do it" is so perfectly indicative of where his head is. He is the victim. Everybody else is to blame. He should be dragged back to therapy pronto, because for all his talk about mental health, I don't believe he's had therapy for years.

oakleaffy · 05/01/2023 13:22

WinnieFosterReads · 05/01/2023 13:15

I'd want a refund from my therapist if I was Harry. He never takes responsibility and that means he'll never learn or find peace. Is it an US therapy approach or just a very rubbish UK one who didn't want to challenge a prince? Because I've never known someone to have such a lack of self-awareness after so much therapy.
I also really hope H is being paid by the Russians or the US government. It would be silly to put so much effort into trashing the UK's constitutional monarchy for free.

I totally agree re the Therapists being dire.
Harry has allegedly had years of therapy, plus having a therapist on speed dial {Like after he was pushed by William}.

They possibly didn't want to challenge Harry in any way about his behaviours.

Maybe they were of the ''Poor you!'' type, nodding along while he spilled the beans, never daring to challenge him to look at himself in an honest way.

diddl · 05/01/2023 13:23

I think what he's highlighting is the fact that his brother condoned it yet got zero flack for it

Harry was an adult at the time though-he needs to take responsibility for even thinking about wearing it-not blaming someone else (with the same upbringing, education & peers) for not telling him no!

PinkTonic · 05/01/2023 13:23

potniatheron · 05/01/2023 13:05

Well, as long as he wasn't blacked up like Justin Trudeau did on 3 separate occasions, it's no biggie I don't think.

I once dressed up as a ancient Egyption queen. Obvs wouldn't do so now but, ya know.

I have read repeated allegations about the fancy dress party and how William was dressed in a grass skirt, however today is the first time TWO separate parties have been mentioned - the same day we hear from Harry himself that William was dressed as a leopard. What a coincidence

JoyPeaceSleep · 05/01/2023 13:24

WinnieFosterReads · 05/01/2023 13:15

I'd want a refund from my therapist if I was Harry. He never takes responsibility and that means he'll never learn or find peace. Is it an US therapy approach or just a very rubbish UK one who didn't want to challenge a prince? Because I've never known someone to have such a lack of self-awareness after so much therapy.
I also really hope H is being paid by the Russians or the US government. It would be silly to put so much effort into trashing the UK's constitutional monarchy for free.

This is something that puzzles me having been in therapy for family estrangement since May 2020.
My therapist advised me not to send a letter id written on the basis that id have to deal with the backlash from the letter before id dealt with the wounds I do have (betrayal).

Going on oprah, giving interviews, netflix et cetera, that's like a letter but ten fold!!! Could there possibly be a therapist who would tell him that this is a good idea.

A therapist would identify the wound(s) and help him heal, not let him believe that publicly getting his side out there would help him heal.
I'm no expert but I feel like the 4k of therapy I had helped me a lot Harry has not put the work in I don't think.

DarkDarkNight · 05/01/2023 13:30

I would like to know what William was wearing to this party. Probably on a par with a Nazi uniform but it never made it in to the papers mysteriously enough.

Shelefttheweb · 05/01/2023 13:30

Dreamstate · 05/01/2023 12:40

👏once again the media distraction is in full force. The book has been leaked - what a perfect way to distract from the state of the NHS and announcements from yesterday. Here we are multiple articles filling up the headlines to distract the plebs.

The book is out next week, of course they are going to be doing interviews and ‘leaks’ to hype it up now. You really expect us to believe Harry timed his launch for the benefit of the government of a country he left? The NHS is always in a mess at this point of the year but even so to get it spot on when timing the launch several months ago is pretty lucky...

SquashesPumpkinsAutumnBliss · 05/01/2023 13:30

So it is ok for him to apologise for wearing a Nazi dressing up outfit. But, not ok for his brother to apologise for pushing him over - no, that needs to be on tv interviews and in a book?

MarshaBradyo · 05/01/2023 13:31

Exactly it’s just pre laugh leaks by the publisher / agent

It’s working as it gets headlines

MarshaBradyo · 05/01/2023 13:32

Pre launch - but maybe also laugh

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/01/2023 13:33

DarkDarkNight · 05/01/2023 13:30

I would like to know what William was wearing to this party. Probably on a par with a Nazi uniform but it never made it in to the papers mysteriously enough.

William was dressed as a lion ( or leopard, depending which account you believe) some sort of big cat , anyway.

I suppose you could say that was insulting to animals, but since the police seem to promote and celebrate ‘furries’ at Pride , you could equally say he was ahead of his time.

BedfordBloo · 05/01/2023 13:35

BradfordGirl · 05/01/2023 10:40

The story has always been that they were all in the fancy dress shop together, and that William and Kate encouraged Harry to choose the Nazi uniform to wear.
Personally I think this is true. The whole family appears racist and this would just be seen as a bit of a joke amongst that sort of crowd.

If that's what the story has "always been" then why isn't that what he's saying now? Personally, when people change their story multiple times it makes me less likely to believe them rather than more likely to believe them... Honestly, some people believe absolutely anything and it's actually concerning.