Harry and Meghan want a royal summit — and an apology

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-want-a-royal-summit-and-an-apology-hm58n8s6p

Oh dear...

The Kings speech will be interesting this year

Apparently, it was recorded last month, before the Netflix programme was screened. Not that I would have expected him to mention it anyway, TBH

What in Gods name makes them think a meeting like that would ever happen now? They are completely oblivious to the damage they’ve done. No one in the RF will ever trust them again now. It’s staggering that they really believe they are owed an apology rather than the other way round.

I can’t understand why a war veteran would be so upset by his brother shouting and screaming at him. I have known brothers who physically fight . I have a vision of William and Harry like the Gallagher brothers!

I have a vision of William and Harry like the Gallagher brothers!

😂n that case, IHarry is definitely Liam!

I haven't and won't watch the Netflix documentary but sometimes click on the MN threads out of morbid curiosity.

Surely the not believing 'he said, she said' in the article cuts both ways. Can Harry prove that his brother shouted etc? We only have his word for any of their claims. Recollections may, of course, vary.

Can anyone tell me what it is they want to get on with? What service? Given that they're not working royals now and don't seem to have any particular job or role or talent to focus on.

Can anyone tell me what it is they want to get on with? What service? Given that they're not working royals now and don't seem to have any particular job or role or talent to focus on.

I believe they want to be "thought leaders" and "change makers"

No way! That's too funny. Why on earth would they think they're remotely qualified for that kind of thing? Surely even their fans wouldn't think they're thought leaders or change makers! I'm guessing they mean in the context of the RF rather than inventing something new and life saving!

It was reported that it was the Queen's decision to put the photos on the piano of just the line of succession that reportedly made H&M jump early as they saw it as a snub by the institution against them

I never quite bought this as a real reason. If it was a snub, then it was greater against Anne, Edward (and even the repulsive Andrew) ie her own DC who were excluded, and equal snub to all the other six DGC.

Not getting special treatment =/= a snub. They wanted more than any other DGC not in the direct line. I hope this is not a true rumour, for if it is, it's damaging to Harry - raised in a hierarchy, chose to work in a hierarchy (Army), should understand how those hierarchies work.

I am baffled by this too.

I don't really understand why, if they need more money, Meghan doesn't just go back to acting - she could play herself in the Crown and I am sure other parts would be available to her too.

Harry is only famous for being royal which apparently he doesn't want to be any more - which is fine but what does he have to offer in terms of "service" or "duty"?

And what's the change he wants to see in the Royal Family exactly? Is it just being able to do whatever he wants?

MM seems pretty nimble so I guess she could become a pilates instructor - maybe with a sideline in mindfulless meditation?

I could see PH as a personal fitness trainer specializing in obstacles courses and the correct way to do push-ups and bench presses.

In their spare time they could bake cookies for the PTA bake sale, teach underprivileged children to read and distribute food parcels on skid row.

But I guess that won't suit...

They were fearfully unlucky to be launching a new initiative just at the start of the pandemic.

USA did not however lockdown in the same way, or for any way near as long as UK, so they have had plenty of time to relaunch.

And I really don't get any sense of what Archewell actually does - odd grant, bit of collaboration with others. Nothing it's actually done itself IYSWIM - all those things would have happened whether or not Archewell had joined in.

I'm not sure what a "thought leader" is (assume it's another wanky way of saying 'influencer' - it all sounds a bit flimsy)

Isn't "change maker" the role that Harry is employed to do?

@MusicstillonMTV I don't really understand why, if they need more money, Meghan doesn't just go back to acting - she could play herself in the Crown and I am sure other parts would be available to her too.

That's common sense - something not very common in the M & H household.

Some witty person somewhere said that maybe Meghan could go back to "Suits" and Harry could start selling suits ? 😁

Just feels like they're stamping their feet and demanding attention.
Surely there are better ways to deal with an emotionally unavailable father.

So these two are nothing but whining troublemakers, with what they consider, not enough money. I never watch Netflix and would not watch them. The Royal Family are just ignoring them and they like the grown up toddlers they are, are screaming for attention!

They want an apology?

That’s nuts. But it’s likely just stirring too by the paper

It's an old Papal title bestowed James IV of Scotland and Henry VIII of England in the 1500s, not relinquished on the breach with Rome, and hanging round for historic reasons.

No monarch has lived up to it since that breach, and indeed acted against it - RCs banned from succession.

Though ER II did a little better in that, though, as whilst RC still banned, having an RC spouse is no longer a bar. So she did more than most.

Charles was reported pre-accession to want to remove the otiose Papal title, and replace with a new concept of Defender of Faiths. Depending on how he does it, it could be a very good thing in an increasingly diverse society.

This, with bells on.

He should have grown out of his self-pitying whining about 15 years ago.

And he certainly doesn't deserve an apology.

I’ve know idea who really said what or when - my guess is that both sides are probably being as manipulative and dishonest as each other. And that fact makes me suport Harry and Meghan all the more! As sometimes all you can do to counter a dirty opponent is to fire similar tactics right back at them. I applaud it. It’s about time some people stood up to that corrupt, lying and dysfunctional institution that has the gall to pretend it represents millions of people who in fact oppose everything it stands for. And future generations of Windsor children would be so much the happier for not having to waddle around in front of the cameras to the satisfaction of despicable rags like the Daily Mail, instead being free to pursue a happy, normal existence.

@HaveYour
If Meghan attends Sandringham 2, surely the other spouses should too? H & Ms position affects them all.
Unless you were there you cannot know whether William shrieked, screamed or raised his voice in a robust exchange.
There is no coming back from this to any sort of Royal role for at least a couple of decades, surely you don't imagine after all this they are 'employable' by the RF in any capacity?

I get the impression it still wouldn't be enough.

Hard to believe that William shouting at Harry caused Harry to feel "terrified".

Angry or annoyed maybe, upset maybe, but terrified? A 35 year old man terrified by his brother raising his voice?

All set for Netflix Season 2 then !

I looked again at my post of 7.55.am and think perhaps it wasn't thought through.😳

For Meghan to go back into 'Suits' would be practically impossible seeing as it's filmed in Toronto and she lives in LA. (And I can't see the studio paying her airfare to get there)
A move to Toronto would also be out of the question as Trudeau has said that Canada won't pay for their security.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51636835

So it looks like they have 'painted themselves into a corner'.

I wonder how long Meghan will stick around when the money from Lady Di runs out?

We'd probably get another Netflix documentary out of that.. dear god no. More whining 🥴