I truly do not understand the hate H&M get

[Ostryga]

I’ve just started watching their documentary, mainly due to the endless threads on here and wanting to actually see why people were so upset about them.

I don’t understand how anyone can watch them together, and especially watch Harry’s past and experiences and continue with the hate? Am I seeing something different to everyone else?

On mumsnet one of the biggest upset is that they’ve lied. Well first off, who hasn’t? Everyone lies about something. But surely when you’re being imprisoned in your home due to cameras being set up everywhere and your entire life is on show you’re going to say SOMETHING that doesn’t correlate? I know I would.

And almost every mumsnetter gets upset when a door is knocked when they weren’t expecting it, how the fuck could they live like Meghan did? With cameras absolutely everywhere?

I don't see how anyone with even a smidge of compassion could watch this and still want them to suffer and write such vile things. They’re just 2 people in love with little children caught up in the insane royal family/press cycle.

I think they just didn't like her because they were already getting reports at that time that they were treating their staff badly. Some were probably already saying bullying them. But instead of publishing that (as they were probably being asked not to by the Palace) they were sitting on it and instead showing their negative opinion of her through these negative stories. But I can see it would have been unpleasant anyway and she was well within her rights to leave.

@Ostryga I agree.

Where is that hilarious Megan hot line link for people with irrational hate.

@Roussette

I don't think this is a new exposé. Imagine how absolutely ground shaking the abdication was ? The sheer vitriol and hate towards wallis Simpson?
Their Nazis connection and to be honest all the scandals before that .

There is no scandal here though just two people deciding to live and do something else!

@fartichoke i agree with your post!

‘I think the move to America was to protect them both. And tbh, if I had the ways and means to make hundreds of millions from my family abuse (which it was, Harry 100% suffered at least emotional abuse) I would do it too.’

‘You have never, and willl never in your life be privy to a royal conversation.


So what you’re doing is getting upset, or disbelieving about something you have absolutely no idea about.’

both of these posts have been posted by you op, I think you are contradicting yourself here.
A previous poster put it likes Eastenders with tiaras on and it’s absolutely correct!

I don't hate them but I strongly dislike them for several reasons. Mostly the race bating. Yes, Meghan received a small amount of arguable racist press but her lack of popularity is mostly due to her own behaviour in my opinion and had very little to nothing to do with press.

Omg come on. Of course not everyone who hates her is racist. But there have been people who have brazenly made nasty comments, Many of them are nameless anonymous accounts online. Nobody cares to remember them but they exist. Journos and the Danny bakers of the world: people rush to defend them. I think we can safely assume there are more behind closed doors.

And the level of hate is just so disproportionate. Now Jeremy clarkson puts Megan in the same category as rose west. Genuinely, you can't blame people at this point for thinking their is something more behind it. It's unhinged.

Also, some people believe you can't be racist to Meghan because she has fair skin. That's really not how racism works: again, see Danny baker comparing Archie to a chimp by his mere proximity to blackness.

We all have people we don't like, that's normal. The outrage about Megan really isn't. Other members the RF have done more damage yet somehow they are able to slither away/are actually revered.

Yes, Meghan received a small amount of arguable racist press but her lack of popularity is mostly due to her own behaviour in my opinion and had very little to nothing to do with press.

Disgusting. She deserves everything she gets then. How embarrassing to have typed this.

It's the same as shaming rape victims for a short skirt.

For the first time ever, I'm beginning to have some empathy for them. Not a shred until this point. Theyre whingey tone-deaf victims but my god, just imagine being in the eye of this storm.

Theyre whingey tone-deaf victims but my god, just imagine being in the eye of this storm.

But they deliberately whipped up the media storm with all the “big revelation” and dirt dishing interviews, documentaries and now a book about the Royal Family.

Yes of course there have been racist comments on social media and yes, Danny Baker's post was unacceptable but he lost his job over it iirc, did he not? It wasn't in keeping with most of the press and comments on them I've personally seen. I don't defend racist journalism but there's been very little of it in this country which they've proved themselves by having to pad out their examples with headlines from foreign papers and stories that are completely unrelated to them. If they had more examples, of course they'd use them. This padding out with foreign or unrelated stuff is damaging the legitimate point they have to make and damaging to their own credibility. People don't trust their account anymore whereas they would have at one time.

As for Jeremy Clarkson, I think he was sending up the hysteria over the couple and making a point about how crazy it all is by writing something so exaggerated. It was done very badly though and should never have been published. He's always been awful and probably shouldn't have a platform. Again, though, most of the comments I've read haven't been in this vein at all and are legitimate responses to the couple's behaviour. We can accept that some of the press they've had has been vile and totally unacceptable (as it has been for most members of the royal family) and also accept that their own behaviour has provoked a lot of public anger and that people are allowed to discuss that, as everyone on this thread is doing. I think the narcissistic behaviour and credible bullying allegations against them have probably sealed their fate but who knows. A lot of people are very quick to disregard those.

Given you're the one who said it, maybe you should be embarrassed about it. I personally didn't say anything remotely close to her deserving everything she gets. I've pointed out I don't like their behaviour because I think they're bullies and race baiters (in response to your own question) and also that I think that's where a lot of the anger from the public is coming from. Doesn't compare in the slightest to shaming rape victims for short skirts. Ridiculous post.

Well I wouldn’t practically replicate the same lifestyle after moving abroad. We now know private things about him we never knew before, like losing his virginity and his frost bitten dick. The constant tv appearances regurgitating the same stories over and over again is nothing like living a new life away from prying eyes.

The pupils obviously love Meghan to bits! https://twitter.com/tregminator/status/1661650412884164608?s=19

That should be in the past tense, cos it was years ago. Long before all the pouting and what a hard life they have.

those kids are probably adults now and there is no telling how they feel.

why did you revive an old thread to post this old news?

Stirring the pot ! @TrashyPanda

I feel the opposite. I wonder why the Sussexes keep getting excuses and support from the left leaning media and progressives when they represent the opposite of anything progressive. And it's even more ludicrous when so called republicans voice their support for the Sussexes when the couple are in favour of the monarchy, and their only issue is that they feel that they're not treated as equals to the heir and his wife. In fact, they cling desperately to the royal institution via their titles despite having left the institution, but not before insisting on a half in half out situation. And even now, Harry is still pushing to get special treatment, to obtain round the clock police protection for himself and his family, for no other reason apart from being born a prince and because hes scared of the paparazzi. Not to mention, the numerous racist incidents that Harry has been involved in the past, and his violent behaviour towards others, yet somehow all is forgiven because he lost his mother when he was young and he married Meghan? Not even Kanye gets the same level of sympathy and excuses despite having also lost his mother and also seeming to suffer from mental illness. Also, the Sussexes’ multiple narratives that contradict each other and lack logical sense are either deliberately ignored, or if that doesn't work, accusations of racism get thrown at the individual who dares to question their narrative.

But surely when you’re being imprisoned in your home due to cameras being set up everywhere and your entire life is on show

The British media, despite being portrayed by Harry as the worst thing in the world, has an unwritten agreement to leave the royals alone when 'off duty'. It is mostly adhered to. We rarely see or hear from them unless they want us to. Their public appearances are carefully controlled.

The same is not true in the country where Harry and Meghan found freedom. There are way fewer restrictions on the conduct of the press in general, and unlike in Britain, they have no special status there. So moving there is a strange choice if the aim is to avoid media attention. But of course that was not the aim.

I didn't realise this was an old thread! I wouldn't have bothered posting if I had.

It was revived to link to a Twitter thread containing photos from more than 3 years ago?

Goodness op. You really drunk the coolaid didn’t you. I’m sure they are grateful for uou starting yet another thread and standing on that hill acting like a super fan 😂

Thread is 6 months old so a zombie thread

I must say, I feel sympathy for them now. I suspect they wish they had done things differently, and want to start over - but I think they are absolutely trapped , like a fly in a web.

They will never be able to reset their relationship with the media even if they can reset family relationships.

Couldn't agree with you more, Op.

Doesn't get it ?

Fuck it I really can't be bothered

I meant to state who by May 2023 doesn't get it?!

I know

sad, isn’t it?

desperate to prove something, I guess