Why does everybody hate MM so much?

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Probably going to end up quite controversial, however

I don't understand why people hate Meghan Markle so much?

As outsiders all looking in, we should really be on the fence for most of what has or hasn't happened, however in every situation, people jump at MM and hate her so much?!

I understand people may doubt things she's claimed, but there's no need for people to drag her down and have a go at her as much as they do.

& let's face it, none of the royal family are perfect 🤷‍♀️ I don't see a smidge as much hate for the likes of Andrew after the things he was involved with?

@thewayround yes sorry took you totally the wrong way! I agree. The RF appear to have encouraged the reporting of wrong side of the tracks mentality as it actually makes them look better. Racism is of course a massive problem in the UK but imo the biggest, most entrenched problem in the UK is class and the lack of social mobility. Can’t have people starting to actually think hang on a moment, it’s the circumstances in to which I am born financially that have the single biggest impact on my life outcomes… but back to the point at hand, MM is simply not someone you’d be inclined to trust in real life. She is the ultimate elevenerifer, she is someone if you worked with them you’d be egging on to see what she would come out with next.

My husband and I have completely different views on her. He has watched all the episodes and is now Meghan's biggest fan. He says the media have hounded her and Harry moved her to the US to protect her and they needed to make the netflix documentary to sell their story that the media and the RF wouldn't leave Megan alone.

I believe that Meghan knew exactly what she was doing when she set her sights on Harry and I think she saw his vulnerability and preyed on this to her advantage. She had always set her sights high and marrying into the British RF is probably as high as you can get. She is older than him and very attractive and he was wowed by her and still is. I don't think race has anything to do with it. Once she was married and living here and a working Royal she thought gosh this is hard work I don't think I like this anymore so she turned Harry against his family and made him move to America.

However I have only watched one episode because for me it felt like to much The Megan show but my DH has watched all of them and says if I stick with it I will change my mind but in all honesty I don't want to waste my time watching it because I don't think my opinion will change.

However I have only watched one episode because for me it felt like to much The Megan show but my DH has watched all of them and says if I stick with it I will change my mind but in all honesty I don't want to waste my time watching it because I don't think my opinion will change

It is a highly effective piece of propaganda, but also misleading - to the point of dishonesty. None of the tricky questions it raises are ever answered, and the alternative viewpoint to some very contentious claims is never presented.

Most people with an inquiring mind or any familiarity with the backstory would find it almost unwatchable - unless from the perspective of curiosity about propaganda.

I think the hatred is whipped up by the press. It’s a distraction. Whilst people are hating someone they have never met and never will, it distracts them from holding politicians to account for issues that WILL make a material difference to all of our lives.

Channel your anger towards politicians and their corruption, who gift us with shit in our rivers, a struggling NHS, cold homes and workers who still need food banks to survive.

@BlueWalnut there are absolutely bigger issues. But do you honestly believe the population just believes what they are presented with by the press? Do you think MM’s own behaviour has anything to do with it?

Yes, this. It's all bread and circuses for the masses, one big distraction.

@raspberrytinsel yes I do see the irony. But if she wants to make a show for Netflix and air her dirty laundry - we can choose to watch or not. It doesn’t mean she deserves the vitriol she’s getting.

It does worry me. I can understand wanting to set things straight when the press have hounded you.

But you're also here whinging and not doing anything good for anybody.

We all have our own problems that we complain about. Some big, some small. And there’s always someone much worse off.

She had a miscarriage. Huge press intrusion into her personal life. Horrible, racist newspaper headlines. Had to parade in front of the cameras with a newborn. Sure, lots of people are much much worse off than her. She’s immensely privileged. But it’s fine for her to tell her story. I’m sure I complain about lots of things others might find trivial. And wealth doesn’t cushion you from everything.

It shouldn’t be a race to the bottom.

Ummm , somebody asked a direct question on an Internet forum and I responded?😳🙄

I agree. So many people were talking about Harry and Meghan - they have the right to tell their side.

No hatred here.
I'm not a royalist, think H&M probably had some bad experiences and some parts of the media were racist towards her, but also think they should enjoy life outside the royal family, focus on happily raising their children and stop moaning to the press.

They started the conversation, the fact their documentary started well before any issues, suggests they knew how to cash in. Now it is all out, what next? How do people that back them fall for the hypocrisy from the two raking in the cash?

That have had a bad time. I hate the bloody press. I wish there were laws where they can be done for harassment or something. It’s such a massive issue. But I think M & H come across as entitled and a bit too far removed from reality. Like the quote ‘aah, this is what normality feels like’ as Harry strides through his montecito estate. Your reality maybe. Not everyone else’s. It’s that type of thing.

To be fair, Harry won't ever know normal normal. That isn't really his fault. He was born into the royal family. He didn't choose it. But I do think the British media are disgraceful. It is all about money and not about respecting the dignity of people. This isn't specific to Harry and Meghan but pretty much any topic.

They have also gotten tons of good press. I came across an artilce doing a 'comparison' where they put positive articles about the other RF beside a negative article of H and M. I have no idea what that is intended to show as they could have picked negative articles of other RF and positive articles about H and M.

I feel like early on there was more of a fuss that she was a divorcee than that she was biracial. But the majority of the press I saw was positive. She was on the covers of Vanity Fair, People, Tatler, Hello, Vogue Guest Editor, Elle France, The Cut etc. She was an invited speaker and on panels and lists of professional influencial women etc. If she wanted to, she could highlight positive press and opportunities she received rather than making it seem like everyone hated her.

To be fair, the amount of therapy he has had and monetises should have brought him to a place of peace. It hasn't though has it ... why- a bad therapist, a money making scheme or something else more coercive?

hasn't though has it ... why- a bad therapist, a money making scheme or something else more coercive?

Therapy doesn’t always help. It’s not the answer to everything. Sometimes you just have to let time go by and live your day the best you can knowing that your emotional damage is part of you and has to be lived around.

Perhaps Harry speaking his truth by going on OW, making Netflix shows and writing his ‘Spare’ book is therapy is part of his therapy journey for him. Others don’t like it for many and varying reasons, but tough; it is what it is and Harry didn’t ask to be born into the RF and I’m 100% sure no one would want to be treated the way Harry and his Wife are being treated. Harry is hurt, angry and traumatised and rightly so.

Harry is clearly traumatised about how his Mother was treated. Princess Diana was treated appallingly and was literally hounded to death by the press. I can understand why Harry would want to prevent the same outcome happening to his Wife and Mother of his children, Meghan. I believe that Harry feels that speaking out now is his way of feeling that he is also protecting and fighting for his late Mother, as he previously didn’t understand the issues at play and also couldn’t speak up when he was younger. He was a child when his Mother died! Have some empathy!

Harry has never and will never know what normal is as he had the misfortune to be born into the RF (yes, he was unlucky). Who the hell would want to be born into that institutional mess (that’s
a rhetorical question)!?

Some people may not agree with the route H&M have taken, but they should at the very least try to understand why H&M they feel that they have no other choice but to expose all of their dirty linen in public. It may seem revengeful, but this is their life and they owe it to themselves and their children to break the toxic cycle.

'Perhaps Harry speaking his truth by going on OW, making Netflix shows and writing his ‘Spare’ book is therapy is part of his therapy journey for him.'

No therapist who wasn't a snake oil salesman would recommend this course of action. Or perhaps Harry is therapising himself? If so, it's not looking as if he's doing a very good job.

Maybe?

A good Therapist won’t tell someone what to do. That’s not how therapy works. Have you ever had therapy?

Harry and Meghan are allowed to do whatever they want to do.

'Harry and Meghan are allowed to do whatever they want to do.'

They certainly are......

A therapist won't tell someone what to do but a good therapist will help their patient find a way to navigate their issues which won't lead to more trauma. I don't think that's what's happening with Harry at all. What he's doing seems to be increasing his feelings of anger and he's doing a lot of lashing out.

I haven't had therapy but I've seen good things in a close relative who has, for trauma and PTSD.

Well, we can both agree that Harry is definitely lashing out.

I think it’s because people don’t like change and we (as a nation) thought all was good in the royal family and then she came along and stole “our” prince away. Harry was incredibly popular before Megan.

Plus we Brits don’t like moaning, we like the Keep Calm and Carry On attitude that the royal family embody.

And a good dollop of racism.

FWIW, I don’t hate Megan but I do think that if they want their privacy, they need to stop doing these “tell all” stories especially when the actual truth is likely to be somewhere in between their perspective and the rest of the royal family’s.

Because of attitudes like this?