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Why does everybody hate MM so much?

202 replies

yorkshirepudsx · 16/12/2022 12:55

Probably going to end up quite controversial, however

I don't understand why people hate Meghan Markle so much?

As outsiders all looking in, we should really be on the fence for most of what has or hasn't happened, however in every situation, people jump at MM and hate her so much?!

I understand people may doubt things she's claimed, but there's no need for people to drag her down and have a go at her as much as they do.

& let's face it, none of the royal family are perfect 🤷‍♀️ I don't see a smidge as much hate for the likes of Andrew after the things he was involved with?

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PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 16/12/2022 16:31

I don't hate Meghan. I find her disingenuous, insincere, schmaltzy and I am not taken in by her word-salad attempts to sound profound and intelligent.

catelina · 16/12/2022 16:31

I find it fascinating how people see such different things in public figures. I don't get the love, beyond the "you're literally so beautiful!" brigade who fawn over her looks - because there's no denying she's got a pretty face.

However, she strikes me as a pretty shallow and self-regarding person who surrounds herself with people who are happy to live in her shadow (anonymous friends) and/or massage her ego (famous folk), in the full knowledge that if they challenge or contradict her they will be swiftly discarded.

Pearl664 · 16/12/2022 16:37

I don't like or dislike Meghan as I don't know her. I thought their wedding was wonderful and I thought she was a great addition to the royal family. I think she's stunningly beautiful. However I dislike the way she (and Harry) has behaved. In my view they wanted an in/out model, they said they wanted to do royal duties but without public funding, ie they weren't earning enough and wanted to make millions out of being royal. That was never going to work.

If they wanted to leave that was up to them but I changed my view of them when they did the OW interview and sold their souls (and their kids' privacy) to Netflix.

It has nothing to do with racism. I don't care what colour either of them are, and I find it annoying that anyone who says they don't like her is told that they are racist.

FuckNuggets · 16/12/2022 16:38

Personally? I don't. I loved her when she was in suits, didn't really care when she got engaged to Harry. Now, she's frigging everywhere and I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing about her and Harry. You can't get away from it! Now, I just find her attention seeking and annoying.

The media? Because they're racist.

TurquoiseDress · 16/12/2022 16:39

Personally, I'm equally fed up of listening to BOTH Harry and Meghan

I don't have any hate for either of them

Just find them massively irritating and having to see/listen to endless articles about it

They are just a pair of over entitled whinge bags 🤷🏻‍♀️

musingsinmidlife · 16/12/2022 16:40

I don't hate her at all. I feel the same about her as the Kardashians or a Paris Hilton or others who feature themselves on TV. Criticism or dislike isn't hate or racism. Throwing those words around just makes them lose meaning. She has put herself front and center on the screens so people are going to talk about her. She wants attention and all that attention won't be positive. She isn't a one dimensional person - and given all her actions over the course of the last few years, there is lots to discuss and talk about.

over50andfab · 16/12/2022 16:42

I'd like to meet the person who resents H and MM from leaving the UK 😂 😂 😂 they are insignificant people who don't realise it. It's cringing and embarrassing.

So…nobody resented their leaving the U.K.? No posts about it on here or on social media? And they are so insignificant that no-one is watching their programme, speculating and posting about it? Sorry you feel so embarrassed by it all. Maybe step away from reading about it.

nancydroo · 16/12/2022 16:44

over50andfab · 16/12/2022 16:42

I'd like to meet the person who resents H and MM from leaving the UK 😂 😂 😂 they are insignificant people who don't realise it. It's cringing and embarrassing.

So…nobody resented their leaving the U.K.? No posts about it on here or on social media? And they are so insignificant that no-one is watching their programme, speculating and posting about it? Sorry you feel so embarrassed by it all. Maybe step away from reading about it.

Who has posted that they resent them leaving the UK? Nobody. And you can't get away from it. It is everywhere. Fact.

FishBowlSwimmer · 16/12/2022 16:44

over50andfab · 16/12/2022 16:14

See the fact that there's no perspective in their claims leads me to suspect that their real issue is not bad press or racism as much as them trying to win an argument with the RF. Trying to prove that the RF need them, that they're better at the Job than those who were born to do it. Thing is this is wholly a figment of their imaginations, we don't need them, the RF will be fine with or without them and three years of having to sell their family for profit proves it.

Or maybe just giving their version of events as they impacted on them. Not sure where them trying to prove the RF needs them and they’re better at the job comes from - other than yet more speculation to try to increase the negativity towards M & H. The last bit comes across more as resentment for them leaving the U.K.

You obviously didn't watch the docu then, cause H himself said the line about being better at the job than the person born to do it.

lightand · 16/12/2022 16:44

Lcb123 · 16/12/2022 13:14

Because she married into a family then claimed she had no idea what it would be like - which is ridiculous. And now using her fame to promote her own agenda. They wanted to get away from it, but are doing the opposite… TBF I hate them both not just her

This this and this.
Plus constantly trying to deceive. Even when knowing they will get found out.

Do people hate them? I dont know. I dont. I try not to judge. And we never know full story.
Trouble is, the more they say, the worse they drop themselves in it.

They want to live in mansions. While all the time slagging off their families to do so. Which doesnt seem to bother them in the slightest.

Alarm bells rang from the start when her own family didnt seem to have many nice words to say about her, apart from Doria.

SighsTheNewWord · 16/12/2022 16:52

MM’s Mother is Black.
And MM's father is White.

America created the ‘One drop Rule’.
And some people don't mind upholding it.

Some Black people are ‘fair skinned’ or have various hues of skin tones within the same family due to the atrocities that were inflicted on their ancestors during Slavery:

MM is not a fair skinned Black woman (They do exist). She's a fair skinned mixed race woman (Dark skinned mixed race people do exist too).

Secondly, MM isn't biracial (of two races) because of any atrocity from slavery. The One drop rule was created when slavemasters were raping Black women and they were producing biracial babies. MM's mother (Black) willingly had a baby with MM's father (White).

Emmamoo89 · 16/12/2022 16:56

I don't like her. Trying to play the victim. Wants privacy but doing the complete opposite.

hay5689 · 16/12/2022 17:03

I don't hate her, hate is a strong word. I dislike them both because of their constant pity party when they live a lifestyle we could only dream about.

Also in regards to the race issue I genuinely didn't know she was mixed race, it wasn't until her family were in the media that I realised. I'd never even heard of her before she met Harry, I'm not a fan of suits and I don't recall her being in any other tv show I've watched.

Nogreens · 16/12/2022 17:13

I find the "I don't know why people hate Meghan" crowd disingenuous. People repeatedly state why,
you just refuse to accept their response. You are looking for a certain type of response. The only valid response is racism. That is what you want to see, just say it.
Do you equally not understand why people love certain people they have never met personally?

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:25

yorkshirepudsx · 16/12/2022 16:23

This is exactly what I find so baffling!! It's the intensity of it, and a lot of responses on here aren't factual, just 'oh she's a narcissist' etc, it's all based on opinions, but it's how deep people feel about hating her 🤯🤯

But you started a thread clearly knowing that you would be yet another poster providing fertile ground for the expression of such views! You are part of the problem!

thewayround · 16/12/2022 17:26

Nogreens · 16/12/2022 17:13

I find the "I don't know why people hate Meghan" crowd disingenuous. People repeatedly state why,
you just refuse to accept their response. You are looking for a certain type of response. The only valid response is racism. That is what you want to see, just say it.
Do you equally not understand why people love certain people they have never met personally?

Good point

nancydroo · 16/12/2022 17:33

Nogreens · 16/12/2022 17:13

I find the "I don't know why people hate Meghan" crowd disingenuous. People repeatedly state why,
you just refuse to accept their response. You are looking for a certain type of response. The only valid response is racism. That is what you want to see, just say it.
Do you equally not understand why people love certain people they have never met personally?

Exactly

ReadtheReviews · 16/12/2022 17:36

For me it's the agonising LA fakeness. Her podcast was, from the episode I made it halfway through, full of the kind of mutual ego rubbing usually.found on DVD commentaries. Really just dripping with 'oh my god I love YOU so much,' slime which just sounds so false and over the top. It's the type of American that Brits find unbelievable and embarassing.
I think she thought the media attention as Duchess would be more like the kind of interaction she'd experienced as a pretty young actress.

Mamma5464 · 16/12/2022 18:11

LuciferRising · 16/12/2022 13:24

The impression I get here is that you have formed these opinions about her and Harry from reading and watching things about them. You enjoy it. If you didn't you wouldn't read about them. So actually, they offer some value to you regardless of how you feel about them, they provide you with entertainment.

Ha, love this! Still reading the full thread. Can't wait to see how this is argued by the haters.

I agree, I don't understand the hate - if you think she's a liar and fantasist then whatever, but this need to say it over and over. But you see this in all kinds of spaces online. And on Mumsnet it's a sport to pick apart posts to find little holes and from 2+2 come up with 5.

Coucous · 16/12/2022 18:27

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NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 19:26

SighsTheNewWord · 16/12/2022 16:52

MM’s Mother is Black.
And MM's father is White.

America created the ‘One drop Rule’.
And some people don't mind upholding it.

Some Black people are ‘fair skinned’ or have various hues of skin tones within the same family due to the atrocities that were inflicted on their ancestors during Slavery:

MM is not a fair skinned Black woman (They do exist). She's a fair skinned mixed race woman (Dark skinned mixed race people do exist too).

Secondly, MM isn't biracial (of two races) because of any atrocity from slavery. The One drop rule was created when slavemasters were raping Black women and they were producing biracial babies. MM's mother (Black) willingly had a baby with MM's father (White).

@SighsTheNewWord
My response was in response to a another pp. Therefore, you should have included our responses (“quotes”) within your response, so everyone can see exactly who and what you are responding to.

Like me, you’ve stated the obvious. Yes, Meghan’s Father is White, just like most if the whole World is aware that her Mother is Black. Yes, that means MM is Mixed Race.
But…, Let’s allow Meghan the autonomy to decide for herself how she would prefer to be referred to in terms of her race.
Meghan could call herself Green, but we all know she’s Mixed Race. If Meghan feels like identifying as a Black woman because she was raised by a Black African American Mother in AmeriKKKa, that’s none of our business.

I was actually responding to a pp who described Meghan as fair skinned.

I did not state that MM was Biracial due to slavery, hence why I mentioned slavery in a new paragraph.
I’m aware that ‘Bi’ means two, thank you.

I’m also more than aware that dark skinned people are Mixed Race too, due to my own lived experience.
It’s not a good idea to make blind assumptions re. the race and skin colour of randoms who post on the World Wide Web.

Referencing the ‘One Drop Rule’ does not automatically mean that one is upholding it. This is a discussion. The One Drop Rule is a historic AmeriKKKan fact. Meghan and her Black Mother Doria lived/grew up in America against the backdrop of the historical constitutional American way of categorising every person who has African heritage. It simply is what is it. It’s not an argument. These are historical facts.

Iusedtobedontcall · 16/12/2022 19:33

What I liked about MM was that she spoke openly about the pain of miscarriage. It made me feel less alone in my pain. So I’ll always like that. I don’t know her, but speaking out isn’t always wrong.

fairyglitter · 16/12/2022 19:36

So I don’t hate her, I actually had little opinion about her when they first got together/engaged. But now they both irritate me, they wanted to step away from royal duties, they want to keep themselves and their family safe. Yet they have had an interview with Oprah, where they shared the sex of their unborn child. They’ve allowed Archie’s image to be used in the Netflix documentary etc.

There seem to be headline after headline about them, criticise the media with the media. But I just don’t feel like anything new is being shared.

I really hope they can find some peace soon

NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 19:36

ReadtheReviews · 16/12/2022 17:36

For me it's the agonising LA fakeness. Her podcast was, from the episode I made it halfway through, full of the kind of mutual ego rubbing usually.found on DVD commentaries. Really just dripping with 'oh my god I love YOU so much,' slime which just sounds so false and over the top. It's the type of American that Brits find unbelievable and embarassing.
I think she thought the media attention as Duchess would be more like the kind of interaction she'd experienced as a pretty young actress.

She’s the type of American that ‘you’ find unbelievable and embarrassing. Surely you cannot think that ‘you’ speak for all Brits!?

’…pretty young actress’ - so you’re just jealous of Meghan then?

SighsTheNewWord · 16/12/2022 19:43

It seems you've assumed things about Meghan. Meghan 'identifies' as mixed race or biracial. Interesting you didn't know this. You can feel free to look it up.

I didn't assume anything about anyone. I wrote facts while responding to the bit of the posts I needed to respond to.

I'm afraid I cannot read your mind so I wouldn't know what you mean. I can only go by what you wrote and in my opinion, you're now backtracking. You wanted to prove a point that Meghan is indeed Black with your posts and now that I've corrected them with facts, you're trying to say that this is what you meant in the first place.

The fact that you don't know what Meghan calls herself is a big proof in my opinion.

I agree though, it's not an argument.