Page 5 | Why does everybody hate MM so much?

yorkshirepudsx · 2022-12-16T12:55:55+00:00

Probably going to end up quite controversial, however I don't understand why people hate Meghan Markle so much? As outsiders all looking in, we should really be on the fence for most of what has or hasn't happened, however in every situation, people jump at MM and hate her so much?! I understand people may doubt things she's claimed, but there's no need for people to drag her down and have a go at her as much as they do. & let's face it, none of the royal family are perfect 🤷&zwj;♀️ I don't see a smidge as much hate for the likes of Andrew after the things he was involved with?

FishBowlSwimmer · 16/12/2022 15:58

Negative press releases? Her family blabbing to the press? Her lying in court about being involved in Finding Freedo ... Them thinking that it's all about them...Her thinking she can change 1000 years of Royal History...Her misconception that she'd be a princess and live in a palace..

That some people are racist scumbags who get fired for being racist...

Non of these things are the RF doing, nor do they represent the views of the UK as a whole. So why is it they're so pissed off with us?

See the fact that there's no perspective in their claims leads me to suspect that their real issue is not bad press or racism as much as them trying to win an argument with the RF. Trying to prove that the RF need them, that they're better at the Job than those who were born to do it. Thing is this is wholly a figment of their imaginations, we don't need them, the RF will be fine with or without them and three years of having to sell their family for profit proves it.

Hdhabvdhhebsb · 16/12/2022 16:04

@TeaAddict235 are your comments directed at the British public or those on the thread? It's a pretty offensive view. Race certainly doesn't impact on my views of MM or Harry.
I'm not sure in Harry's case who rejected whom... certainly Cressida Bonas seems to be quite happy

rumship · 16/12/2022 16:04

Let's be plain and frank about it, all those single hopeful European ladies expecting him to take their hand in marriage were rejected.

😂All harrys exe`s rejected him this is utter tripe!

LlareggubTripAdviser · 16/12/2022 16:07

CHRIST0PHERR0BIN · 16/12/2022 14:04

In my opinion she married into a very important historical family and felt she could become the main character and change things she didn't like and they would all fawn over her because she was a beautiful actress. She wanted to do it her way but take all the perks. When that didn't happen she left. She dealt with not getting her own way the same way her father did - taking it to the press and making a scene. I believe they will continue to cause a scene, as he did, if they are ignored by the royal family. She took on a job role and agreed to certain terms and traditions then complained when it wouldn't change itself to what she wanted it to be. Whether rightly or wrongly the (very well known) mantra of the royal family is "Never complain, never explain" and she couldn't even respect that simple rule. I do believe its a lot to do with culture difference between US and UK. Catherine plays the role well and is often labelled a puppet, boring and vanilla but that is what the job demands. She flashes her smile, offends nobody, has no opinions of her own, looks like a doll and says all the right things no matter what storm is going on around her. Meghan couldn't do that and just isn't that person.

I always felt sorry for Lady Diana as she was so young going into the situation and less was known or publicised then. However Meghan was a successful, 35 year old woman and knew what she was getting into.

Absolutely spot on.

piglet2211 · 16/12/2022 16:09

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Annie232 · 16/12/2022 16:09

I really don’t understand the racism thing, she does not look black at all, she is very fair skinned and as said herself often passed for white.

NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 16:10

PartyPaw · 16/12/2022 14:24

Racist alert. 🚨

I know right! Lol 💣
I’m my MN experience, posting the popcorn box emoji usually ends up in MN HQ deleting posts.

Uneducated sheep without empathy or basic common sense who believe everything that the media wants them to believe.

’Oh I love the poorly educated!’
~Donald Trump

Are we doomed? 🧨

NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 16:12

Annie232 · 16/12/2022 16:09

I really don’t understand the racism thing, she does not look black at all, she is very fair skinned and as said herself often passed for white.

MM’s Mother is black.

Thriftyfifty66 · 16/12/2022 16:13

NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 16:12

MM’s Mother is black.

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We’re discussing Meghan, not her mother.

over50andfab · 16/12/2022 16:14

See the fact that there's no perspective in their claims leads me to suspect that their real issue is not bad press or racism as much as them trying to win an argument with the RF. Trying to prove that the RF need them, that they're better at the Job than those who were born to do it. Thing is this is wholly a figment of their imaginations, we don't need them, the RF will be fine with or without them and three years of having to sell their family for profit proves it.

Or maybe just giving their version of events as they impacted on them. Not sure where them trying to prove the RF needs them and they’re better at the job comes from - other than yet more speculation to try to increase the negativity towards M & H. The last bit comes across more as resentment for them leaving the U.K.

freezingknickers · 16/12/2022 16:16

The comparison with Andrew is false because he is not continuously courting attention like H&M are. If he were writing books and making TV programmes about himself he certainly would be headlines too.

There is no question that racism has played a part BUT it is not the only part and it is a cheap shot to dismiss every anti-H&M comment as racism.

H&M are disliked because:

They are hypocritical preachers and no-one likes being preached at
They make themselves victims and are tone deaf to real suffering going on
They are critical of the media (rightly) but then write books/release programmes which only attract more media attention
They criticise the RF knowing full well that there is no right of reply, or at least, it is unlikely to be exercised
They need massive amounts of money to fund their lifestyle and their only asset is dishing the dirt in this way - to be honest this is what it all comes down to.

NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 16:17

NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 16:12

MM’s Mother is black.

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MM’s Mother is Black.
America created the ‘One drop Rule’.

Some Black people are ‘fair skinned’ or have various hues of skin tones within the same family due to the atrocities that were inflicted on their ancestors during Slavery:

Thriftyfifty66 · 16/12/2022 16:17

freezingknickers · 16/12/2022 16:16

The comparison with Andrew is false because he is not continuously courting attention like H&M are. If he were writing books and making TV programmes about himself he certainly would be headlines too.

There is no question that racism has played a part BUT it is not the only part and it is a cheap shot to dismiss every anti-H&M comment as racism.

H&M are disliked because:

They are hypocritical preachers and no-one likes being preached at
They make themselves victims and are tone deaf to real suffering going on
They are critical of the media (rightly) but then write books/release programmes which only attract more media attention
They criticise the RF knowing full well that there is no right of reply, or at least, it is unlikely to be exercised
They need massive amounts of money to fund their lifestyle and their only asset is dishing the dirt in this way - to be honest this is what it all comes down to.

You’ve hit the nail on the head here.

nancydroo · 16/12/2022 16:18

over50andfab · 16/12/2022 16:14

See the fact that there's no perspective in their claims leads me to suspect that their real issue is not bad press or racism as much as them trying to win an argument with the RF. Trying to prove that the RF need them, that they're better at the Job than those who were born to do it. Thing is this is wholly a figment of their imaginations, we don't need them, the RF will be fine with or without them and three years of having to sell their family for profit proves it.

Or maybe just giving their version of events as they impacted on them. Not sure where them trying to prove the RF needs them and they’re better at the job comes from - other than yet more speculation to try to increase the negativity towards M & H. The last bit comes across more as resentment for them leaving the U.K.

I'd like to meet the person who resents H and MM from leaving the UK 😂 😂 😂 they are insignificant people who don't realise it. It's cringing and embarrassing.

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yorkshirepudsx · 16/12/2022 16:18

thewayround · 16/12/2022 13:35

You created a new email account to join mumsnet?

No I have a different email account on my iPad, either way why are you so intrigued?? Lol

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NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 16:19

Thriftyfifty66 · 16/12/2022 16:13

We’re discussing Meghan, not her mother.

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What a stupid response 🙄

Ackity · 16/12/2022 16:20

Honestly, how anyone can have such strong opinions on someone they’ve never met is beyond me.

one of my friends hates MM and I’m not sure I can get past her feelings and be friends with her anymore. I genuinely find it bizarre that you can detest a complete stranger

LlareggubTripAdviser · 16/12/2022 16:20

What find bizarre is the complete inability for those with massive enthusiasm for this couple cannot understand anyone else's view point.

This is not a 'documentary'. To be so it would be a balanced investigation into the facts along with indisputable evidence to support each argument. It is nothing of the type. It is Harry & Megan having their one sided PR movie.

The fact that we don't all swallow it hook line and sinker is not because I am a 'flag shagging racist' (mixed race marriage and kids here so I take exception to that ) but because we are blessed with healthy cynicism.

That is not to say I 'hate her' how can I, ? I have never met her. However from what I have seen and know of her, she is most definitely an actress and (to me) comes across as quite emotionally manipulative.

SighsTheNewWord · 16/12/2022 16:21

Ah but her mum is quite clearly black, and that is who has raised Meghan, therefore founded her mindset, her horizon and her strength...

She identifies as a black woman, as in she has not discounted her black heritage (see their wedding as an example).

The only correct statement here is that Doria is black.

Even Doria herself stated that she didn't instil the 'awareness of blackness' (whatever that means) into Meghan.

Meghan has always stood proudly in her dual ethnicity as both black and white, as she should.

You and some others are simply projecting what you want Meghan to stand for by misidentifying her because she married into the RF - a racist institution, no less.

caringcarer · 16/12/2022 16:22

She's such a liar.

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yorkshirepudsx · 16/12/2022 16:23

Ackity · 16/12/2022 16:20

Honestly, how anyone can have such strong opinions on someone they’ve never met is beyond me.

one of my friends hates MM and I’m not sure I can get past her feelings and be friends with her anymore. I genuinely find it bizarre that you can detest a complete stranger

This is exactly what I find so baffling!! It's the intensity of it, and a lot of responses on here aren't factual, just 'oh she's a narcissist' etc, it's all based on opinions, but it's how deep people feel about hating her 🤯🤯

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Ackity · 16/12/2022 16:25

Exactly. Even look up one ‘she’s a liar’. I mean really? How do you actually know that? You’ve heard hearsay and decided what the truth is. Mental.

slideintomxas · 16/12/2022 16:26

Ackity · 16/12/2022 16:25

Exactly. Even look up one ‘she’s a liar’. I mean really? How do you actually know that? You’ve heard hearsay and decided what the truth is. Mental.

She had to apologise to a court of law for telling lies. So there is that.

Coxspurplepippin · 16/12/2022 16:27

'There has always been an expectation for women to fit feminine stereotypes, and whilst Meghan fits those stereotypes in the way that she looks (dresses well and "feminine", well groomed) her behaviour would be more traditionally masculine in some ways. Confident, intelligent, speaks up for herself, earns her own money etc and though this is the norm for lots of women these days it's not for the vast majority of celebrities (look at all the Love Island/TOWIE types and influencers that are extremely popular, often they're pretty baubles with little intelligence).
Women in the public sphere can be intelligent, but not too much, they can be confident, but not too much and that probably goes more so for someone in the royal family and more again for women of colour. It smacks of Meghan basically not knowing her place.'

I take it you've never heard of Princess Anne.......

NaturalBae · 16/12/2022 16:30

Coxspurplepippin · 16/12/2022 16:27

'There has always been an expectation for women to fit feminine stereotypes, and whilst Meghan fits those stereotypes in the way that she looks (dresses well and "feminine", well groomed) her behaviour would be more traditionally masculine in some ways. Confident, intelligent, speaks up for herself, earns her own money etc and though this is the norm for lots of women these days it's not for the vast majority of celebrities (look at all the Love Island/TOWIE types and influencers that are extremely popular, often they're pretty baubles with little intelligence).
Women in the public sphere can be intelligent, but not too much, they can be confident, but not too much and that probably goes more so for someone in the royal family and more again for women of colour. It smacks of Meghan basically not knowing her place.'

I take it you've never heard of Princess Anne.......

‘Women in the public sphere can be intelligent, but not too much, they can be confident, but not too much and that probably goes more so for someone in the royal family and more again for women of colour. It smacks of Meghan basically not knowing her place.'

Otherwise referred to as ‘uppity’.