Will Harry and William ever repair their falling out

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Sadly, it just seems to be getting worse. I don’t really care or take any notice of relationships in the celebrity or world or the relationships of public figures, but I do find it quite sad that there are two brothers who were probably very close at one point and brought closer together by the premature death of their mother at a young age and are now so distant from each other, and I don’t just mean geographically.

I can’t see Harry and William ever making amends, what with all this Netflix stuff, the Oprah stuff and his new book.

It just seems a bit sad!

I’m not saying it’s likely W would do this: he’s not got the backbone or character; he’s in too deep and now he’s got the posh biscuits income as well as the impending crown. I’m saying Harry wouldn’t be able to forgive and reconcile with his brother now that he (H) has seen through the institution and removed himself from it. There’s no way to reconcile their positions without taking the institution out of the equation. And again, W won’t do that, because shortbread.

Nope, I mean when my brother married his first wife, who was a crazy lady. We fell out when me and her (his wife) nearly came to blows in my nan's house when "crazy lady" shouted at my disabled grandfather and I was going to "knock her out".

We didn't talk for years, then crazy lady had an affair and my brother "woke up" and basically turned up at my nan's house in tears. I just gave him a hug, no apology was ever made or accepted we just moved on in silence after a knowing nod to eachother that all was forgotten.

Best buds now again.

But my brother didn't sell his truth's to the world media and spout shit about me constantly. So I could forgive him.

I think William and Harry are done, I'd never be able to forgive after the constant year on year smear campaign against me.

But I feel for Kate, she must be smoking about 40 a day trying to cope with this 😳

Neither of them made it to Balmoral in time, Elizabeth II died much earlier.

Harry's main beef is with the press, particularly the Daily Mail, although he has clearly also fallen out with his brother. But this is an incredibly long-lived family. By my estimates they've probably got 50 years left in which they might reconcile.

OTOH I don't think Harry will ever reconcile with the Daily Mail.

I'm NC with my sister. Hell will freeze over before I willingly accept her into my life again. Plenty of siblings fall out, it's hardly ground breaking.

I think Harry has gone way too far here to ever really mend fences.

OTOH I don't think Harry will ever reconcile with the Daily Mail.

I think that's slightly more likely than a reconciliation with William!

This 100%. I believe Charles (or whoever plans it) picked the day for a reason. It is Archie's birthday, it gives H & M and easy out.

At eat, we are only getting one side of the story from Harry and Meghan, and as none of us were present at most of the occasions they are talking about, we have no way of knowing how much of their accounts are true, how much is exaggerated, and how much is completely untrue.

Given that some of the footage used to trailer this series - specifically of the Press apparently chasing H and M, that was actually from events where they were not even present, and the Press were reporting on completely different people - I am not sure how much I trust much of what they are saying.

Grrrr - at best not at eat - must proof read!

She should have her royal titles removed. Too mouthy

Harry got to Balmoral last when they Queen died as he’d been removed from all the Palace plans to transport immediate family their on private or military transport asap.

that no one, not his Dad, not his brother, none of the logistical staff thought - or did think and choose not to - contact him and get him there given he happened to be in the U.K. at the time was very cruel.

im in camp Harry. He’s doing sterling work calling out the toxic nature of the royal family and palace institution.

his beef is with the press, the palace staff that used stories about him and Meghan to cover up other bad stories about other family members (like the affair rumour) and his family for denying that happened.

it’s worthy of a ‘but we brought you up in stately homes’ thread of its own.

toxic, controlling, gaslighting family and institution.

he and Meghan are well out of there, it’s 100% the RFs loss and he’ll be proved right about all of his critique of the institution.

I wonder what happened when Harry arrived at Balmoral, do you think he got to and see the Queen in private once she had passed?

Why did they want the half in, half out plan and the "collaboration with the Queen?" They seemed to be quite happy to sook up the gravy with the institution when it suited them.

im in camp Harry. He’s doing sterling work calling out the toxic nature of the royal family and palace institution

Absolutely!

I was thinking this too, that they must have more material/dirt saved up to coincide with the coronation.

😆😆😆

They will possibly resemble a pair of fancy Mitchell bros by the time they bury the hatchet.

There were reports at the time that William, Edward, Sophie and Andrew had to wait in a plane on the tarmac at Northolt airport for an hour because there was a row going on behind the scenes that Harry wanted to bring Meghan and the rest of the family vetoed it, because other partners – Kate, Mike Tindall, Eugenie and Beatrice's OHs – wouldn't be going. Harry then flew separately and apparently the held up meant the Queen had already passed by the time they all arrived at Balmoral. Bugger knows what really went on, but H & M may have something to say about the media fallout.

I mean other the grandchildren's partners – the partners of the Queen's children did go to Balmoral.

Yes, this.

They are burning all their "material" with the Netflix reality show and the book; they won't be on the inside to gather more "dirt" and you can bet that everyone in the RF and close circles will be extremely guarded about speaking to them lest their words be recorded and sold to the highest bidder.

By next summer there won't be much of interest that they can monetize. Meanwhile W and K (both of whom I find rather uninteresting cold fish) don't put a foot wrong, keep smiling, rising above it all, and cement their power. And people like Sophie and perhaps even Andrew's daughters will fill all the roles that might have been available to MM.

If MM had been smart she would have lain low for a few years, figured out how it all worked and carved out her own spot in the RF. Now she'll be seen as a tacky American who influenced Harry to cut ties with his family. And where will they be in five years when she is pushing 50 and the California life is losing its appeal?

I'm NC with my sibling. We just have
different opinions and views on family matters- a bit like W & H.
There won't be any reconciliation ever unless sibling apologies and sees the "wrongs". But hell will freeze over before that happens. So we happily live our lives at different ends of the country.

I don't even miss my sibling.

I think William will just get on with his life without Harry. It will be Harry who will need his brother once the pink tinted glasses that M gave him have fallen off.

I think the Netflix glamour will tarnish quickly some of the clips are excruciating

Ah yes, where will the astonishingly beautiful and wealthy actress with famous friends and connections, an independently wealthy husband, media deals and endless press interest in everything she wears and does be in five years? When will the allure of independence in their Montecito mansion wear off? She’ll have to make a difficult choice between her life now – producing, presenting, fashion, California – and crawling back to a slimmed-down monarchy just begging to open a shopping centre in Slough. At “pushing 50”, which will she pick! Truly it’s hard to say.

Well said.

Everyone is rushing round to believe that the RF couldn’t possibly have done anything wrong, certainly not St William of Cambridge. I’ve always thought he was a bit of a dick, tbh. I don’t believe Harry is perfect, because no one is, but there’s definitely fault on both sides, and I’d err on it being more on William’s side.

It was well known that his staff were leaking stories to Dan Wootton, and he’s known to have a bit of a temper. He was quick enough to get the stories of Kate having hair extensions quashed, but no one would stick up for Meghan. He bangs on about mental health but never once said anything about the effect the press was having on the mental health of his pregnant sister in law.

None of us knows what goes on behind closed doors, but after watching the documentary I saw nothing to suggest that Harry and Meghan will split up, quite the opposite, and nor did I see anything to suggest she’s controlling. I hope they have a long, happy life in California because I know which one I’d prefer, given the choice.

I also agree.

I think H has always felt a bit patronised and ignored by his family (‘spare’) but didn’t quite know how to articulate it.

Then M came along, they wanted to have their own ‘Court’ and pro-Commonwealth agenda. The press supported and then turned (Charles allegedly hated it when Diana got more coverage so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he and William hated the coverage M&H were getting).

M probably was ‘WTF, your family are weird!’ and he started to see it. The scales fell, especially when his family did fuck all to protect her from the press.

I think M is far more dramatic and vocal than there were used to and can see she rubbed them up the wrong way but toxic and destined for divorce? Not what I see.

It's sad but I can't see a reconciliation between the two. I wonder in years to come Harry will regret what's happened. His family is just Gloria, M and the children now. Very sad, no big family get togethers on either side.

They aren’t that independently wealthy.

What really have they done. 12 podcasts, a terrible book, and 6 hours of navel gazing on TV. In almost three years.