Will Harry and William ever repair their falling out

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Sadly, it just seems to be getting worse. I don’t really care or take any notice of relationships in the celebrity or world or the relationships of public figures, but I do find it quite sad that there are two brothers who were probably very close at one point and brought closer together by the premature death of their mother at a young age and are now so distant from each other, and I don’t just mean geographically.

I can’t see Harry and William ever making amends, what with all this Netflix stuff, the Oprah stuff and his new book.

It just seems a bit sad!

Doubt it. It is a typical trolling technique designed to exasperate and derail used by fragile narcissists (the powerless ones) sneakily trying to big up their grandiose narcissist saviour.

she was seen, going to Crathes Kirk
being in Scotland doesn’t make her invisible

and maybe the boys wanted to be with her?

there was zero reason for her to go to London, except for the nutters being interviewed outside the Palace, demanding her return

I agree it would be a disaster if they split up.

Nobody wants to see Harry in a mess. But telling tales and washing his laundry in public, alienating his family and friends cannot be helping his MH.

If he was just some anonymous poster, talking about being depressed, lonely and isolated from family in another country only having his DW.
You'd be questioning the whole set up.

The only winner out of all of this is Oprah Winfrey and, more recently, Netflix. The publisher of Harry's forthcoming book is another winner. They're all making God knows how many millions each out of this. The global media are winners too and if anyone thinks USA and Australian media haven't been very harsh on the Sussexes, they're blind to it.

Personally, I cannot see William and Harry making peace. Stranger things have happened though, but I just can't see it.

@DownNative I'd agree other people are gaining at their expense.

I'm still convinced they left the RF without fully thinking through their plan for their future or thinking the could hold the RD to ransom.

Trashing his family has cost them so much respect. Who would even want to book them to do after dinner speech now?

@Sugarfree23 exactly, they didn’t think it through.

I’m not sure H was aware the Met Police decide on security, that security is paid by the tax payer and that KC was funding him(them) from his Duchy of Cornwall income in return for undertaking official duties. Who did he think was paying the salaries of his staff?

They also haven’t thought about how much they have broken the trust with the individual members of the RF. How do you trust them not to secretly photograph, film private moments and/or reveal private conversations etc.

I do wonder if H has realised that W is now custodian of the Duchy of Cornwall and whilst he has the responsibility for the Duchy he also receives the income so has become very wealthy.

Harry has taken too many swipes at William. It’s shear jealousy and incredibly destructive. Seeing as H&M have been filming for years, quietly, I don’t think anyone will ever trust them again. I’d include A listers in that - their privacy is vital and H&M have proved that they will use anything for their own means. I used to think MM was the architect of all this - now I think Harry’s resentment of being number 2 is a huge driving force.

You'd also think security costs and risks would be much higher in a country with easy access to guns than in a country where guns are hard to come-by.

It's almost like the RF (really meaning Queen and Charles) said to them to wait for a proper meeting to sort stuff out when H&M jumped the gun and issued that press release "we are leaving"

They can make up and I hope they do.

we now know they’d been filming quietly for ages…maybe the family suspected this and that’s why they refused to allow M to go. Kate didn’t go, so the why should MM?

I know people say Harry is dim but perhaps not so dim he missed the news or the fact this has always been on the cards their whole lives.

Harry has long known how security for eligible members of the RF is funded. Its also NOT difficult to find the information online either.

I also don't think Harry is an unintelligent person. He is intelligent enough to have got through Sandhurst which he achieved on his own merits, IIRC.

Personally, I think he thought what he and Meghan are doing with Netflix, etc, is worth it for whatever reason he has. At the end of the day, Harry has to live with the consequences of his actions.

@DownNative the implication made by H and M in the Oprah and Netflix is the RF took security away not the Met police. That was unfair on RF and tax payers who pay not the RF.

I agree H & M both have to live with the consequences, including the unintended ones.

I am not unsympathetic to H & M but they have in my view been very naive.

I have stated before the press/media have been vile, racist etc. and no one should have to go through what Diana, Fergie, Sophie, Kate, Camilla, Megan have suffered. K

@DownNative Its also NOT difficult to find the information online either.

I agree but in my experience a lot of people can’t be bothered to do a quick search. For example on MN frequently posters start a thread and someone provides an appropriate link rather than doing a search themselves.

Agreed, it's Harry who is the driving force behind this, he's a jealous he won't be King. The upcoming NF series on Inspiring Leaders is a try hard attempt to align himself with world leaders and change makers. What a coincidence not that a thread asking if the Waleses are modernisers, was just posted this week, it's just another obvious attempt to undermine his brother and wife.

I can respect Meghan, she is articulate and has fire in her belly. Wouldn't be surprised if she moved on from Harry at some point as he isn't successful and all that woe is me isn't attractive or sexy.

You think Harry posted that thread?

I would fucking love the plot twist of antelopevalley being Harry. Don’t tell anyone but I’m Princess Beatrice.

Agreed, it's Harry who is the driving force behind this, he's a jealous he won't be King. The upcoming NF series on Inspiring Leaders is a try hard attempt to align himself with world leaders and change makers.

Oh dear he really does have delusions of his own grandeur doesn't he? Despite having a first class education he barely scraped a couple of A Levels isn't that right? Intellectually he would be utterly out of his depth conversing with the likes of the Obamas etc.

I know! The hyperbole is beyond ridiculous.

So far I’ve read that they, Harry and Meghan, will divorce, different reasons given, but the standout was that there is a large age gap between them (irl 3 years) and she will have aged badly, and apparently the spell that a toxic Meghan has cast over a dim Harry will be broken. There will be a brutal, brutal (and maybe a third brutal) custody battle, Meghan will marry a third time to an older billionaire (or she won’t because she won’t be able to get anyone), and Harry will crawl/slither (I guess it’s take your pick which way), back to William, who will forgive him now Meghan is no longer in the picture, but he will live as a recluse for the rest of his life, because he couldn’t get anyone before Meghan (and won’t get anyone after, I assume), no mention of the kids post divorce.

Meanwhile Kate fancies Harry, William really loves another, there wlll be a divorce, Kate’s new home will be something something cottage (already acquired), William will marry the woman he really loves, the kids will be okay.

That’s just some of it, but its all pretty bleak all round, all these predictions about 4 people none of us know, but I’ve got to say the description of Meghan as she gets older was the nastiest, most misogynistic post I’ve read on mn in a long long while, but apparently that poster thinks Miranda Kerr is a bit of all right (because he/she has met her).

honest to god, you wouldn’t read about it…….but I just did.

No. Nor should William try. He has done nothing to deserve this disgraceful and prolonged fit of petulance.

The Times is reporting today that Harry's new book outlines his various grievances against William in detail, so I suspect his bridges will be well and truly burned. I doubt William will want anything more to do with him, and once Charles is gone, Harry will be condemned to a Duke of Windsor-style Siberia.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/exclusive-harrys-tell-all-memoir-wont-spare-william-3255wfkrq

I have noticed this pattern:
When HMQ was in power, say horrible things about the others but compliment her.
Now KC is in power, say horrible things about the others, reduce criticism of him.

I think the next step is to regularly attack William and Kate (and even the kids sometimes) in such detail with the hope of being widely believed and bringing an end to the monarchy so that he never makes it to king.

The main grievance is obviously that poor Harry cannot stand the fact that William is getting closer and closer to becoming king.