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Harry and Meghan's Netflix series a huge success

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antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 16:55

This series is one of the biggest Netflix shows in the US and the UK. It had 2.4 million views in the UK in the first 24 hours.
Whether you liked the show or not, it is clear that Netflix were right to back this and will make a tidy profit from it. And it helps to boost the bankability of Harry and Meghan.

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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 12/12/2022 18:12

Seems these two can do nothing right.

They could, they'd just need to stop selling stories on their family. That would be the dignified thing to do, but I guess it's not in their nature

StarbucksSmarterSister · 12/12/2022 18:12

I've always felt sorry for him. He was done up like a kipper after Diana died

You must be joking. Ask other staff members what they thought about him.

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:13

@ComfortablyDazed And you know that is not what I said. Quote totally out of context though to make an inaccurate point though.

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Penaltyshootoutfan · 12/12/2022 18:13

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 12/12/2022 18:06

He's estimated to be worth about £5 million, so certainly not private jet/huge mansion rich. He lives in Cheshire now with his husband.

5 million! His net worth is on line and it’s 500 grand, he just sold his flower shop and retired 😂

i tell you though there is no more proof than this show has been hugely damaging to harry and Meghan where people are now comparing them to Paul Burrell , a man who harry abhors, and suggesting they can do after dinner speeches to make some money selling stories if they get a bit desperate.

IcedPurple · 12/12/2022 18:14

Penaltyshootoutfan · 12/12/2022 18:13

5 million! His net worth is on line and it’s 500 grand, he just sold his flower shop and retired 😂

i tell you though there is no more proof than this show has been hugely damaging to harry and Meghan where people are now comparing them to Paul Burrell , a man who harry abhors, and suggesting they can do after dinner speeches to make some money selling stories if they get a bit desperate.

What would they talk about in these 'after dinner speeches'?

Kate made me cry at that toddler's dress fitting. No really, she did.

Rhondaa · 12/12/2022 18:14

ComfortablyDazed · 12/12/2022 18:11

Harry and Meghan.

This generation’s Paul Burrell.

The heady heights…. Grin

Yes who knew Harry would style himself on blabbermouth Burrell 🤣

WhatAmIDoingWrong123 · 12/12/2022 18:14

Holly60 · 12/12/2022 17:04

The thing is, it's been popular because it's about the royal family. Anything about the royals is always going to be popular.

Problem is Harry and Meghan aren't Royal any more. All of their insight is from before they left. Once they've been sucked dry of that, they will be of no interest whatsoever. It's not about them, it's about what they knew about the workings of the inner royal circle. Now they've told everyone, they have very little to offer. They aren't ever going to know anything new so what will they talk about??

I hope for their own sakes they held something back for a follow up. Even if they did, it's getting to be old news fast.

100%! I think you replied to me just before my baby was born last year in a thread about in laws and meeting babies. We weren’t in agreement, but I did think you were very reasonable and made me think. You’ve nailed it here too. @Holly60

Diverseopinions · 12/12/2022 18:15

Ittybittytittycomittee · 12/12/2022 18:09

Funny isn't it? The people saying they won't watch it are now slagging it off! Seems these two can do nothing right. I still find it incredulous that people are up in arms over these two and yet say nothing about their precious Royals protecting Price Andrew. Sigh.

The Royals aren't exactly protecting Prince Andrew in the press, because there is quite a lot of information related from the US and reported about what might happen in forthcoming trials etc.

He has lost all official Royal roles. Everything he officially did in his life is gone.

His mother used to speak to him and ride out with him. Well, mothers do tend to support their children - in private. He went to the Queen's funeral. Well, again it was right that he went to his own mother's funeral.

What should the Royals do to not protect him, then?

BellePeppa · 12/12/2022 18:16

With any luck they’ll bank their money and then stfu. Sick of their regurgitated nonsense to bring in the dollars. There’ll be no need to see or hear from them again. They can go away quietly and count their 30 pieces of silver millions.

User3758965 · 12/12/2022 18:18

I have given up with Netflix and cancelled, there is nothing good to watch, I have loads of half finished rubbish series which if you want to get rid of from your profile is a right palaver. I didn't bother with the H and M series.

Penaltyshootoutfan · 12/12/2022 18:18

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:11

@Ittybittytittycomittee The people complaining are keeping Meghan and Harry as bankable stars.

Again you’re misunderstanding this, they are not “bankable stars” any more than Paul Burrell is. People aren’t watching as it’s them. They are watching to see if there is anything outrageous or gossipy . That’s not a bankable star.

A bankable star is someone who people will watch as it’s them. like Tom cruise or Julia roberts in a movie, or Oprah doing an interview, People aren’t watching as it is them playing parts or doing something skilled, they are watching so they can hear something juicy.

purplepencilcase · 12/12/2022 18:19

No way am I watching it. I can't bear them. Urgh!!!

OhMargaret · 12/12/2022 18:22

Tim Burton's Wednesday, by contrast, got 341 millions views in the same week and it was released over a fortnight ago.

Context is everything.

magicthree · 12/12/2022 18:23

I just hope it reveals the rumours about William. He isn't as squeaky clean as he seems. His extramarital fun has been reported ALL over the world but blocked in the U.K. I wonder how that happened?

Has it really? I don't live in the UK, and wouldn't know a thing about "his extramarital fun" if I wasn't on MN.

As for the Netflix nonsense, I know one person who watched it, just to see what all the fuss was about, and no-one else has even mentioned it. Hardly what I would call a huge success.

Pinkrosesbloom · 12/12/2022 18:23

I signed up to Netflix in part to watch this. I have no interest in rf as such, and it was a well done series, juxtaposing significant and grave history with a mundane and normal couple.

and the mix was quite effective, IMO.

like I said, I think this a long game, for generations to come. And I think they come across quite well.

Although the most powerful stuff was from the historians (I really never tied the rf so directly to the slave trade before). And seeing some of the ‘art’ depicting slaves was quite astounding and uncomfortable.

what next for the couple? Who knows... Probably politics. And they would likely get top notch security as part of the job.

the director is very skilled and I think this a a valuable contribution to historical ‘studies’ of institutions of power, done in a very modern and casual ‘love story’ manner. Really quite interesting

IcedPurple · 12/12/2022 18:26

what next for the couple? Who knows... Probably politics. And they would likely get top notch security as part of the job.

What sort of 'politics'? He's not even an American citizen.

She has skin thinner than parchment. No way could she handle the intense criticism that comes with being a politician, if she's still bitter about what went down at a toddler's dress fitting 4 years ago.

ComfortablyDazed · 12/12/2022 18:26

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 18:13

@ComfortablyDazed And you know that is not what I said. Quote totally out of context though to make an inaccurate point though.

It’s exactly what you said. It’s right there, upthread, in black and white.

But I can understand the hurried back-tracking.

Because I can guarantee the H&M comms team would be completely and utterly horrified by you linking them to Burrell!

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 12/12/2022 18:27

Without putting too ‘heavy’ a slant on this, I find the dynamics in their behaviour really interesting.

A young male relative in my family got involved with a slightly older woman - similar age gap as H&M. She was also drop dead gorgeous, highly intelligent, appeared very confident, forthright and very ambitious. However, she was also from a dysfunctional family and told us stories about her divorced father taking her to bars when she was around 10 where he would spend the evening chatting up women.

He was absolutely besotted by her, not helped by the fact he was going through a stage of low self esteem and lacked confidence. She led him completely by the nose. She constantly drip fed him a tale that his parents clearly preferred his sister, that they were disappointed in him, that his father felt his own career was more important than his son - none of which was true - and constantly told him he was a victim of others ambitions. She tormented him about flirtations she had with other men and how desirable they found her, then accessed his FB account, posted an alleged message from another woman, instigated a massive row about the fictional woman then told the young man that his sister had clearly done it, knowing they had previously had a very close sibling connection and that it was likely to cause irreparable damage.

For several years, his relationship with the whole family was very rocky. He blamed all of us for his issues, appeared very angry and made unfounded accusations against several relatives that were clearly words from her mouth, not his. We all resisted responding and kept quiet because any reply was twisted into a different version of the truth - she was incredibly clever with words, she certainly had a lawyer’s brain - plus no one wanted to further alienate him.

Eventually, I actually think she became bored with him. She started mixing with another group and told him he wasn’t on the same intellectual level as her!
The relief was incredible although everyone made the appropriate noises about how sad it was etc etc Once away from her influence, he blossomed. His confidence grew and he became more focussed on his future. He admitted afterwards that her need for his undivided attention meant his work suffered, his desperation to keep her happy was exhausting and that she seemed unable to accept that he could still love her and equally maintain a loving relationship with his family. Again puzzling, because she had been welcomed and included immediately.

Not in anyway suggesting that Meghan is anywhere on the same scale as this woman was, but some interesting parallels.

ComfortablyDazed · 12/12/2022 18:30

magicthree · 12/12/2022 18:23

I just hope it reveals the rumours about William. He isn't as squeaky clean as he seems. His extramarital fun has been reported ALL over the world but blocked in the U.K. I wonder how that happened?

Has it really? I don't live in the UK, and wouldn't know a thing about "his extramarital fun" if I wasn't on MN.

As for the Netflix nonsense, I know one person who watched it, just to see what all the fuss was about, and no-one else has even mentioned it. Hardly what I would call a huge success.

Right.

I’m in the Antipodes, and the ONLY place I’ve ever heard mention of some sort of extra-marital affair is on MN.

Jux · 12/12/2022 18:31

Personally, I think the only personin the RF who fed Meghan tohe wolves, or yhrew her or whatever it is they said (saw the trailer just now but wasn't paying attention initially) was her husband. He's got one hell of a lot to answer for. Maybe it was the way he thought he could make hus mark and the now-unnecessary spare - bringing the whole edifice down?

Failed, as he will in everything until he learns to take responsibility for himself.

Penaltyshootoutfan · 12/12/2022 18:33

OhMargaret · 12/12/2022 18:22

Tim Burton's Wednesday, by contrast, got 341 millions views in the same week and it was released over a fortnight ago.

Context is everything.

Actually you’re right, it got 2.4 m and Wednesday got 341 million, I think the op forgot the global reach

in addition great British bake off gets 15 million.

so in this it’s not just a failure for harry and Meghan it’s also a failure for Netflix. Those are tiny figures. It’s actually on a par with love island. Unless the op thinks those guys are a huge success and bankable stars

im surprised it’s so little to be honest

Pinkrosesbloom · 12/12/2022 18:34

@IcedPurple he probably will become an American citizen in the next few years. And Arnie became governor (?) of California.

Lots of opportunity for meghan and/or Harry to run for political office. And probably suits them too.
I think she can handle professional criticism and rejection, after all as an actress she dealt with it ( I imagine it is much harder to deal with rejection from the family or family firm as the boundaries are all so mixed up).

and I actually think Harry would make a great politician, laid back and yet very used to being in the public eye.

MaulPerton · 12/12/2022 18:36

How is 2.4m a "huge success"? Isn't there the barometer that regional news programmes routinely receive circa 5m viewers?

MalagaNights · 12/12/2022 18:37

It's a success for Netflix just in terms of the coverage it's getting if nothing else.

But for M & H we'll have to wait and see.

I think it will have cheapened their 'brand'.
Which A list celebs would do reality show like this sharing their personal family life and engaging public family gossip? None.
The Obamas? The Clooneys? Oprah?
No. They wouldn't. It would be beneath them.

They've aligned themselves with C list celebs who sell themselves to maintain interest and make money. Problem is they have nothing else to sell after this. Thier royal celeb status is all they are currently trading on.

So I think whether you watchde or not or whether you like them or not, they are now a cheap sell themselves for gossip brand.

Itsthewhitehat · 12/12/2022 18:38

How many people watched the first episode of ‘The crown’ when it’s latest series aired?

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