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Harry and Meghan's Netflix series a huge success

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antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 16:55

This series is one of the biggest Netflix shows in the US and the UK. It had 2.4 million views in the UK in the first 24 hours.
Whether you liked the show or not, it is clear that Netflix were right to back this and will make a tidy profit from it. And it helps to boost the bankability of Harry and Meghan.

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Itsthewhitehat · 12/12/2022 21:08

Ittybittytittycomittee · 12/12/2022 20:22

@Diverseopinions they shouldn't have paid his bill to Virginia Giuffre that ran into millions, that proves guilt. Personally he should be thrown to the lions for what he's done. He went to his mothers funeral displaying all of his medals! I thought he was stripped of everything? 🤔

I thought he was stripped of all his honorary titles.

Not medals that he earned, serving in the Navy.

antelopevalley · 12/12/2022 21:10

No Andrew was not stripped of his titles. He just agreed not to use them.

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Serenster · 12/12/2022 21:40

Speaking on Andrew, in the least surprising news ever, I see there’s an investigative reporter in the US digging into why the only two people who have faced any kind of proceeding in relation to Epstein are Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew. Both British, both outsiders to the circles of power Epstein over in.

Virginia Giuffre’s lawyer was Andrew Boies. Not his first time being involved in such cases, but previously he’d worked for Harvey Weinstein, and had in particular been involved in finding ways to undermine the credibility of Weinstein’s victims. He’s high up in democratic circles and close to Bill Clinton too, and acted for Al Gore when he challenged the 2000 election result.

You might ask why he’d be acting for the victims in the Epstein case then especially given some of his circle will be among those implicated. And he did so for free, too. Well, basically, if he’s advising the victims, he controls who they go after. And, crucially, who they don’t….

LondonWolf · 12/12/2022 21:57

Speaking on Andrew, in the least surprising news ever, I see there’s an investigative reporter in the US digging into why the only two people who have faced any kind of proceeding in relation to Epstein are Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew. Both British, both outsiders to the circles of power Epstein over in.

Well yes. I mentioned this to an American FB "friend" who was waxing lyrical with her friends about how dreadful PA is - I agree but there are others too - and was told that the only people who believe this are "QAnon conspiracy theorists". I didn't even know what it was. Had to look them up!

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/12/2022 22:15

Surely if PA is mentioned by Harry that will completely lead back to Epstein and somehow I can't see Netflix wanting any mention of him or anyone that he ever mixed with (if they're American).

JemimaTiggywinkles · 12/12/2022 23:02

LondonWolf, who the heck does your friend think Maxwell and Epstein trafficked girls to?! Nobody can seriously believe Prince Andrew was the only one.

I'm not normally a conspiracy theory person, but there's definitely been a coverup. It's one danger of a two party system - too much power concentrated in a small number of people at the top of each party means there aren't many people you need to blackmail in order to keep secrets. I don't know what Maxwell gets out of keeping quiet though.

I hope there are some good reporters on it, and that the whole truth does come out. Andrew needs to answer for everything (I'd bet good money on there being more) and so do all the others who abused girls and were complicit in covering up child abuse.

blacksax · 12/12/2022 23:25

Aspiringmatriarch · 12/12/2022 19:00

Couldn't they sue the media in other countries as well though, if they're printing libellous claims?

Different countries, different legal systems and I believe that in some places you are not necessarily awarded costs when you win, so legal fees run into the millions. I have a friend in the public eye, and they said that if they took legal action against everyone who printed something untrue, they would spent their entire life in court.

In any case, according to my friend, the less said the better. The press can really make your life hell if they choose to.

ComfortablyDazed · 12/12/2022 23:34

In any case, according to my friend, the less said the better. The press can really make your life hell if they choose to.

And there we have it - summed up beautifully in a nutshell.

And why, as long as Harry and Meghan insist on engaging, they simply dig a bigger, deeper hole for themselves.

The reason why the Crown never complains and never explains.

queenofarles · 13/12/2022 08:19

You might ask why he’d be acting for the victims in the Epstein case then especially given some of his circle will be among those implicated. And he did so for free, too. Well, basically, if he’s advising the victims, he controls who they go after. And, crucially, who they don’t….

There is a very powerful list of Men involved and Andrew is really nothing compared with the other big names , he’s way down the list.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 13/12/2022 12:55

I find there’s a bitter irony that Meghan and Harry pleaded with Thomas Markle not to sell his story to the media and there was even an protracted court case to prevent the contents her famous ‘carefully constructed’ letter being revealed - and yet they’re basically doing exactly the same thing! Harry bleated that “they were never allowed to tell their story” Maybe that’s only what TM wanted to do?

Controlling the narrative more like!

PicturesOfDogs · 13/12/2022 13:24

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 13/12/2022 12:55

I find there’s a bitter irony that Meghan and Harry pleaded with Thomas Markle not to sell his story to the media and there was even an protracted court case to prevent the contents her famous ‘carefully constructed’ letter being revealed - and yet they’re basically doing exactly the same thing! Harry bleated that “they were never allowed to tell their story” Maybe that’s only what TM wanted to do?

Controlling the narrative more like!

It’s also interesting that when Harry complains about ‘not being allowed’ to do something, or say what he wanted to say, etc it’s accepted as a reason they needed to get out, but when people say he’s out of line for casting aspersions on the RF when they can’t reply, you get snarky ‘of course they can reply, who says they can’t’ etc.

Which is it?

ArabianLeopardCub · 13/12/2022 13:33

I sometimes think Harry and Meghan are a little like those exclusive luxury brands that become a victim of their own success.

When Meghan joined the Royal Family, Harry and Meghan as a couple became hotter than hot. They had a glamour and appeal than none of the other Royals had. And they knew this.

In any other industry this level of success would mean they move up the pecking order - rising stars. First on the billing. Not in the Royal Family though. This in my mind was their biggest issue.

It is not a meritocracy. No matter how cool and popular they were with the public and the A list elite, they were always going to be behind 'boring' Kate and William and treated accordingly by the Palace.

So they left. Dazzled by their own brilliance they thought they would strike out alone. I think they genuinely believed their star would only ascend. They would create their own Royal house.

They made the classic mistake of thinking they were bigger than the brand. On their own, though selling their tales to the highest bidder they become mass market, less exclusive and less desirable. From Chanel to Burberry. That once classic tartan now looks quite cheap and ordinary.

Flabbers · 13/12/2022 22:20

Just watched this - Meghan marklr is cringe worthily up her own arse. What a self regarding load of twaddle. I bet his mum would have loved it though.

MissTrip82 · 13/12/2022 22:35

I think people who are snotty about Harry and Meghan getting paid by Netflix must be extraordinarily naive about how much of the royal family’s fortune has been made over the year.

onlylarkin · 13/12/2022 23:14

LondonWolf · 12/12/2022 21:57

Speaking on Andrew, in the least surprising news ever, I see there’s an investigative reporter in the US digging into why the only two people who have faced any kind of proceeding in relation to Epstein are Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew. Both British, both outsiders to the circles of power Epstein over in.

Well yes. I mentioned this to an American FB "friend" who was waxing lyrical with her friends about how dreadful PA is - I agree but there are others too - and was told that the only people who believe this are "QAnon conspiracy theorists". I didn't even know what it was. Had to look them up!

When I read your post my first thought was Qanon.

I am not a Q follower, but my sister went down that hole for a bit in 2020. She is all good now, but it was startling to see how easily a person can become involved in a cult.

That being said, the best conspiracy theories probably have some truth to them and it is interesting that no one in the US has been charged or even named.

UnicornsDoExist · 23/12/2022 19:43

I’m still on the first episode, started it 3 weeks ago. I’m interested in the old pictures/footage of the royals but not much interest in H&M

AliceOlive · 23/12/2022 21:20

@ArabianLeopardCub That’s been my impression, also.

purpledalmation · 23/12/2022 21:25

What the one widely panned and boring, dull and a massive exercise in self pity? From a mansion and a private jet and a limousine followed by a pizza delivery boy on a scooter? Best laugh I had in ages.

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