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Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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username8888 · 10/12/2022 20:14

H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

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Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 07:05

Jennybeans401 · 11/12/2022 06:44

@Justasec321 yes I was charmed too. Harry's work for Sentibale was so moving, they both have a social conscience and have done a lot of char

Agree jenny. Also his work with ex army people.

His time in Africa was a very moving segment. They had a lot of respect for him!

And - like it or not famous people draw attention to causes.

RosettaStormer · 11/12/2022 07:05

hay5689 · 11/12/2022 06:56

For me the biggest takeaway from it was how out of touch with reality and miserable Harry seems. His comments about Thomas Markle selling out his family were laughable when he did exactly the same on Oprah. He also looked deeply uncomfortable when Meghan was doing her mock courtesy, I still think he's going to regret this in years to come and it might be too late to build bridges.

It definitely is too late. Far too late.

Spangletown · 11/12/2022 07:05

I thought they came across well, Harry seems like a nice man, and Meghan explains a bit about her 'previous life' which gives some context to what they experienced in the UK. It highlighted some racism in the UK/ the aftermath of the Empire, and I think that makes people uncomfortable. People seem to be salivating about them breaking up, but it's clear they love one another. They haven't over exposed their children in the way that W & K seem happy to do, and what was clear is that that wasn't good for Harry growing up.

Seeing the Royal kids having to do that press thing on the ski holiday really hit it home, as a parent, how fucked up that situation was/is. I think Harry has moved his family to the US so that his own kids have a different experience. The RF seems quite dysfunctional to me, especially the whole Prince Andrew cover up.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/12/2022 07:06

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ivykaty44 · 11/12/2022 07:06

Everyone I’ve spoken to says they’ve come across well. Only DM readers seem to think otherwise

I don’t read the mail or express and thought they came over terribly, boring twaddle.

Prescottdanni123 · 11/12/2022 07:10

If he wanted to step back from the royal family and keep his family safe then fair enough. But then why not just go and live somewhere quietly? Why keep putting themselves in the spotlight? Why keep attacking his family? They have never shut up or tried to stay off the radar since the moment they left. And now reports have come out that he actually did a paparazzi stunt, which would not surprise me with the erratic way they have both been behaving.

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 07:11

Sling · 11/12/2022 06:59

Do you find it strange that the ex editor of the Daily Mail works for KC?

Actually no, it's poacher turned game keeper. The RF must realise that regardless of what they would like they will survive based on popular opinion, and the tabloids hold great influence on that. As for the editor one presunes they are good at their job which is take an editorial line and run with it.

Of course there's a debate about the ethics of the editorial line regards H&M but that's different to whether the person should have a job at the palace.

Of course there's a debate about the ethics of the editorial line regards H&M but that's different to whether the person should have a job at the palace.

Is it though? I think if my dad hired a guy who had stocked up the nation against my dh I would consider going no contact! I am very sure that would be the Mumsnt advise. 😁It must add a layer of hurt that would be hard to cure.

I am pretty sure hey could ask them to ease off a bit.

Figgygal · 11/12/2022 07:16

I'm not even sure it is a documentary its a puff piece filled with sycophants
Not sure what netflix have paid all that money for

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 07:17

Prescottdanni123 · 11/12/2022 07:10

If he wanted to step back from the royal family and keep his family safe then fair enough. But then why not just go and live somewhere quietly? Why keep putting themselves in the spotlight? Why keep attacking his family? They have never shut up or tried to stay off the radar since the moment they left. And now reports have come out that he actually did a paparazzi stunt, which would not surprise me with the erratic way they have both been behaving.

He did not attack his family.......yet!

hay5689 · 11/12/2022 07:18

@RosettaStormer I think you might be right, they've said too much. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when Charles gets his coronation, I don't think it's possible for them to attend now after this. You could have said Oprah was a mistake but to do it again with the Netflix series shows it's a calculated move and for me the fact they recorded their departure from the Royal Family shows they always intended to use the footage at a later date.

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 07:19

Figgygal · 11/12/2022 07:16

I'm not even sure it is a documentary its a puff piece filled with sycophants
Not sure what netflix have paid all that money for

And a history lesson...

Karwomannghia · 11/12/2022 07:20

for me the main objections Harry had was the press intrusion and the treatment of women coming into the royal family. And that is no surprise at all given the way his mum was treated and then killed. Anyone saying it’s her fault for not wearing a seatbelt was surely not old enough to remember what it was like. The paps were relentless and the comments in the papers were vile. She was hounded all the time. The car was being chased by motorbikes. Her brother spoke out about it at her funeral. There was no two ways about it.
So Harry is speaking out about it and still so many hate him for daring to state the glaring obvious that it’s not acceptable. Why shouldn’t they speak out about some of the absurdities and hypocrisies of the royal family with its bowing and slavery? What is everyone so scared of?
and the fact everyone loves Kate is because she’s basically silent and never speaks out about anything and has never complained. Plus she’s very slim. Even she experienced vile media scrutiny initially - I remember comments about her insisting she did her own eyeliner for her wedding and how that was a mistake and the same comments reiterated on here. And you start to look at her eyeliner and think is it maybe too heavy? The power of suggestion from small nasty comments in the press has such a huge negative impact. Now she is practically silent. Since when did that because our core values for a woman in the royal family? Diana didn’t stay silent and she was hated for it. Until she died. Yet still there are so many who despise H&M for speaking out, accusing them of cashing in on one hand and saying no one will be interested in the other hand. They do have a right to say their piece and people want to watch.

hay5689 · 11/12/2022 07:20

@Justasec321 he did with the Oprah interview. I know this thread is regarding the Netflix show but they'd already put the boot in on Oprah.

VioletLemon · 11/12/2022 07:20

Her life story is really dull. It seems to me all a fuse to launch a Presidential campaign in 15 years. All the child activism, where she alone gets an advert changed, Dad working in the TV production industry likely paid a part. Mum taking herself very seriously too, it all just IS SO AMERICAN!! I get the sense M sees herself as the next global leader of change, Mother Teresa/Nelson Mandela style. I think she comes across as extremely ambitious for herself and why shouldn't she be. She's fairly bright, in the sense of having a lot of therapy speak and uses a righteous tone. He seems enthralled, dependant on her, heavily influenced by the media spin around him, a bit of a sad figure really. M and her Mother have replaced the entire RF as his only real support. It doesn't seem healthy as neither seem to have any real friends. Unfortunately they will probably live to regret this as it inadvertently brings huge exposure to their 2 young children and long term they can't sustain the security they will need that RF would ensure in UK.

ReneBumsWombats · 11/12/2022 07:21

As long as it keeps selling, they're all winners.

I used to think they were aiming at the US market, which was why they didn't care about how it looked here. They are, but if Brits are consuming all the content too, bonus. It doesn't really matter if they're hate-viewing, does it?

hellycat · 11/12/2022 07:24

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

Diana was killed by the actions of an unfit driver who put their car into a wall. These photographers chase everyone, admittedly they're a horrible aspect of fame, but they did not CAUSE her death, they were an aggravating factor. The chauffeur's drunkenness and errors of judgment were to blame.

WeWereInParis · 11/12/2022 07:24

I thought that was the WHOLE POINT of Charles and Diana? He married for duty and here we are.

How is refering to that trashing his family?

@Justasec321 I wouldn't use the word trashing, but I think because he referred to multiple men, he wasn't just talking about Charles and Diana. He said the men in his family don't marry for love (not his exact words, but he said something about not marrying who they're "destined" for I think, and just marrying the right sort of person instead). Which I think is a little rude.

SeaShellSnow · 11/12/2022 07:26

liarliarshortsonfire · 10/12/2022 21:30

I thought she was taking the piss out of herself with the curtsey? (I'm no Meghan fan)

I thought the same, I thinks she thinks she's taking the piss out of herself, but unfortunately it doesn't come across in that way, it's very 'child like', but it comes across as though she's taking the piss out of having to do it, like it's a silly thing to be doing.

Meghan is often fooling around in that puerile kind of way, she did it in the engagement video too, maybe it's to show how fun and easy going she is but it looks odd on a 41 year old mother of 2, it's attention seeking. Looking at the two, it will all end in tears for Harry. He has no-one left apart from his wife. Anyway, as he is relatively high up in the order of succession, I am sure there is so much more than meets the eye here and the British 'men in grey' are keeping a very close eye on Harry indeed. I doubt the programme will reveal anything shocking. Racism is a compelling theme in their narrative but it's very short sighted of them to be exploiting it in this way. They are being very silly indeed.

Spangletown · 11/12/2022 07:29

He said the men in his family don't marry for love (not his exact words, but he said something about not marrying who they're "destined" for I think, and just marrying the right sort of person instead). Which I think is a little rude.

But his father literally married somebody he didn't want to and kept OW (Camilla) going in the background, causing a lot of pain for all of them. And of course it may be that Harry knows other things as well if the rumours about William playing around are true. The acrimonious divorce in the public spotlight must have been difficult for Harry. Not to mention his mum's sudden death and then the whole conspiracy theories around how she was murdered by RF. Awful for him.

OLP2019 · 11/12/2022 07:31

William lived through the same experience of losing his mother and for a long time Catherine and her family were a stable place for Harry/ they had a great relationship.Megan is like a bomb has gone off. What is her motivation? She's been an agent of chaos and their issues as a couple have not been caused by anyone but themselves

WinnieTheW0rm · 11/12/2022 07:32

pigonalipstick · 10/12/2022 23:50

Sure, the whole thing is grounded in them saying they wanted to explain their side of everything, and that's why they were doing it.

And regards the camera footage, they said they were advised to keep a video diary to try and keep them sane/combat the misinformation about them.

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That is strange advice, and only makes even the slightest sense if either they were already decided on a broadcast, or they were being manipulated into it. I really wonder who this adviser was.

OLP2019 · 11/12/2022 07:35

Karwomannghia · 11/12/2022 07:20

for me the main objections Harry had was the press intrusion and the treatment of women coming into the royal family. And that is no surprise at all given the way his mum was treated and then killed. Anyone saying it’s her fault for not wearing a seatbelt was surely not old enough to remember what it was like. The paps were relentless and the comments in the papers were vile. She was hounded all the time. The car was being chased by motorbikes. Her brother spoke out about it at her funeral. There was no two ways about it.
So Harry is speaking out about it and still so many hate him for daring to state the glaring obvious that it’s not acceptable. Why shouldn’t they speak out about some of the absurdities and hypocrisies of the royal family with its bowing and slavery? What is everyone so scared of?
and the fact everyone loves Kate is because she’s basically silent and never speaks out about anything and has never complained. Plus she’s very slim. Even she experienced vile media scrutiny initially - I remember comments about her insisting she did her own eyeliner for her wedding and how that was a mistake and the same comments reiterated on here. And you start to look at her eyeliner and think is it maybe too heavy? The power of suggestion from small nasty comments in the press has such a huge negative impact. Now she is practically silent. Since when did that because our core values for a woman in the royal family? Diana didn’t stay silent and she was hated for it. Until she died. Yet still there are so many who despise H&M for speaking out, accusing them of cashing in on one hand and saying no one will be interested in the other hand. They do have a right to say their piece and people want to watch.

They are literally saying the entire royal family and British public are racist and that's what happened. That's why so many people are upset because she was welcomed by the public so all their claims are so out of left field and made to suit their agenda

LidlCinnamonBun · 11/12/2022 07:35

pigonalipstick · 10/12/2022 23:50

Sure, the whole thing is grounded in them saying they wanted to explain their side of everything, and that's why they were doing it.

And regards the camera footage, they said they were advised to keep a video diary to try and keep them sane/combat the misinformation about them.

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Sure they did . . . they defo didn’t film their private lives for a Netflix doco for £££££££££ 🙄

SnowlayRoundabout · 11/12/2022 07:36

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

His mother was killed because she got into a car with a drunk driver and didn't put her seat belt on.

If he wanted to protect his wife and family from the media, do you think making a high profile TV series is the best way to achieve that?

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/12/2022 07:37

@Karwomannghia
I think it is the people, who remember what it was like are the ones, who are rebuffing the narrative that Diana was killed by the paps. She refused secret service protection and a catalogue of errors ensued.