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Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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username8888 · 10/12/2022 20:14

H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

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My2pence2day · 10/12/2022 21:05

SirChenjins · 10/12/2022 20:27

I’ve wondered this - esp when they left up the (very funny but quite cutting) comments about H&M on their official trailer on YouTube Grin

I think they’re going for both markets - the people that like them and their recollections won’t be disappointed, while their critics will be delighted by their unintentionally comedic antics and will pick apart their inaccuracies. Win/win from NF pov.

I think this, both markets. They're the couple people love to hate, I didn't realise how much until I saw all of these threads the last few days. I think the people who hate them are actually funding them, if no one was interested, they wouldn't make any money from it

BonnesVacances · 10/12/2022 21:06

Oh dear!

It was their driver who said they were being followed.

People who think they're ok don't think the series shows them in a bad light.

I appreciate that negative people who like to pull other people down and pull things apart declaring them shit will be having a field day with it though.

I've watched the 'Meghan was mocking the Queen' narrative grow on social media as more people jump on that particular bandwagon.

God forbid that anyone should form their own thoughts. Instead of just repeating a narrative they read somewhere because it ties in with their own pettiness.

I think much less of people that show themselves up in that way than I do of two people trying to fight against such abject negativity and stupidity.

Justcallmebebes · 10/12/2022 21:10

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

His mother was killed by a drunk driver and if she had been wearing a seat belt, she most likely would have survived

SaltyCrisp · 10/12/2022 21:14

I appreciate that negative people who like to pull other people down and pull things apart declaring them shit will be having a field day with it though

That's a good description of the Sussexes. Some of us are capable of applying critical thinking skills.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 10/12/2022 21:17

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

His mum was killed because she got into a car with a drunk driver and wasn’t wearing a seat belt.

TarquinOliverNimrod · 10/12/2022 21:17

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi

🙄

The driver of the car Diana was travelling in was drunk. He killed her.

Serenster · 10/12/2022 21:17

His mum was killed at the hands of the paparazzi.

Diana died because she was in a speeding car being driven by a driver who’d consumed enough alcohol to make his reckless and less able to react appropriately, and she chose not to wear a seatbelt.

She was in that car because she had chosen to hang out with a super wealthy family who pinched pennies when it came to providing for their own security, and those of their guests, and had a culture of no-one saying “No” to the boss, even if the boss had daft ideas. And the patriarch of the family was tipping the press off about their whereabouts because it was good publicity for him. It was a hugely unfortunate series of events, but it was an accident.

LBFseBrom · 10/12/2022 21:18

I don't see how. Judging from the first three episodes, it's well done and I found it extremely interesting and charming. Unless there is something negative about what I see next week, I cannot see anything to complain about.

BellePeppa · 10/12/2022 21:18

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

French paparazzi in France but he always blames the British and never addresses the fact Diana didn’t wear a seatbelt and the driver was intoxicated.

No one has been chasing his wife. There’s literally no footage, why do you think they had to use Diana and Kate 🤷‍♀️

bloodyfedupnow · 10/12/2022 21:19

I put it on because I had watched everything in my watch list and was bored. Couldn't finish the first episode (I didn't realise there would be multiple episodes). Without this being a dig, I got to a point where I realised I just didn't care.

I think Harry and Meghan have their version of the truth. William and Kate probably have their version. One may be be more objectively accurate than the other, but does it matter? When you believe something about who you are and how you've been treated, you're unlikely to change your mind. The opinions that matter are the ones that belong to the people involved, not ours, and I doubt their opinions are going to be changed as a result of any of these documentaries or articles.

Maybe one or both sides window dresses the facts a little. We all do. We filter photos for social media, we choose what to share about ourselves. Whatever actually happened, it's been blown up out of proportion because of the media involvement.

The only thing bit of their story I'm interested in is why we've got ourselves to a point in society where the paparazzi are so awful. They wouldn't behave the way they did if there was no money in it, so as a society, we must value the intrusion into other people's lives.

So it comes back to us, the every people. We give too much of a crap about other people's lives, because it's more interesting than talking about our own. Maybe we all need to get a hobby.

I don't know who is or isn't right. But Harry and his brother live in different countries now, and can both get on with their lives without seeing each other on a regular basis. I wish them separately the best of luck in enjoying the rest of their lives, the way that they have chosen to live them. You only get one shot at this life, and I'll be damned if I'm important enough to judge whatever choices they've made.

Now... got to take a long hard look at my own life. What do I want to do to be happier?

lifeinthehills · 10/12/2022 21:19

3catsandcounting · 10/12/2022 20:19

I thought she was taking the piss out of herself with the curtsey? (I'm no Meghan fan)

That's how I interpreted that too. She was making fun of herself, no-one else.

midsomermurderess · 10/12/2022 21:23

From a review of the first 3 episodes in Variety: ‘They may have shed their responsibilities to the Crown, but they’re still in a kind of service. There’s an air of duty about the entire enterprise of Harry & Meghan as if they’re honour-bound to keep reciting their personal story until we eventually lose interest.’ I think this person has a point.

SaltyCrisp · 10/12/2022 21:24

Harry is being disingenuous when he says he left the UK to protect his family. They had police protection here. Now they're paying millions (?) to private security firms who have a vested interest in feeding his paranoia.

Does anyone have a link to the Sussexes' proposals of how they were going to monetise their titles whilst "colaborating" with the Queen?

username8888 · 10/12/2022 21:27

Snugglepiggy · 10/12/2022 20:56

I'm still thinking about that curtsey scene was sending herself up it just seemed so disrespectful to the late Queen. And it's only weeks really since Harry stood in uniform keeping a silent and moving vigil at her coffin.Contrast that to him sitting next to a giggling overacting M and it feels all wrong.

I think the smile was a nervous reaction, he really looks uncomfortable at her mockery.

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liarliarshortsonfire · 10/12/2022 21:27

His mum was killed at the hands of the paparazzi

There is so much more to it than just that. The driver was intoxicated and Diana wasn't wearing a seatbelt. The only person in that car to survive had a seat belt on. You could say the accident wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the paparazzi, but it could also have happened without the paparazzi due to the driver being intoxicated.

But I think as a bit of 10/11 he still feels the same feelings he did as a young boy and it's obviously really impacted the way he sees the world. His truth is that they killed her, and his behaviour is a result of that truth

liarliarshortsonfire · 10/12/2022 21:30

I thought she was taking the piss out of herself with the curtsey? (I'm no Meghan fan)

I thought the same, I thinks she thinks she's taking the piss out of herself, but unfortunately it doesn't come across in that way, it's very 'child like', but it comes across as though she's taking the piss out of having to do it, like it's a silly thing to be doing.

Callipygion · 10/12/2022 21:30

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

His mum was killed by a drunk driver driving too fast.

bloodyfedupnow · 10/12/2022 21:33

liarliarshortsonfire · 10/12/2022 21:27

His mum was killed at the hands of the paparazzi

There is so much more to it than just that. The driver was intoxicated and Diana wasn't wearing a seatbelt. The only person in that car to survive had a seat belt on. You could say the accident wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the paparazzi, but it could also have happened without the paparazzi due to the driver being intoxicated.

But I think as a bit of 10/11 he still feels the same feelings he did as a young boy and it's obviously really impacted the way he sees the world. His truth is that they killed her, and his behaviour is a result of that truth

If I'd lost my mother at that age in those circumstances, I'd probably have the same view as him. It doesn't make sense losing your parent at that age, so you need some narrative to explain it, and once you've wrapped that story around you, you can't let go.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/12/2022 21:34

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

Why do people keep saying this? She was killed because the driver was drunk and she wasn't wearing a seatbelt.

HelpMeCope85 · 10/12/2022 21:34

SaltyCrisp · 10/12/2022 20:25

I found the opening scene of the 2nd episode quite chilling.

"Haz" is clearly disturbed by the pap on a bike (real or imagined) whereas Megan seems to be relishing the drama. Harry says something like "in ten minutes we will be with friends..."

It was pitiful.
Netflix have peak Sussexed me.

Watched this and thought wth he’s anxious super anxious and she’s like loving it. Bloody weird.

also saying to Doria Im dating Prince Harry but previously saying she didn’t know him/or Royal Family etc. they just look like entitled fools. I can’t watch it anymore.

thenightsky · 10/12/2022 21:34

BellePeppa · 10/12/2022 21:18

French paparazzi in France but he always blames the British and never addresses the fact Diana didn’t wear a seatbelt and the driver was intoxicated.

No one has been chasing his wife. There’s literally no footage, why do you think they had to use Diana and Kate 🤷‍♀️

Yep. Why does he never blame the French press? Roland Rat wasn't it, who took photos of a dying Diana?

username8888 · 10/12/2022 21:35

@bloodyfedupnow I totally agree with you and it's not their leaving or making money becoming a reality Tv show, that annoys so many people. You can do all that, and good luck to you, but why trash your own family? Why criticise your flesh and blood and accuse them of not marrying for love while you alone married for love? Entitled, self pitying and hypocritical. They are the ones shoving themselves into the limelight. I suspect very few paparazzi follow either of them.

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liarliarshortsonfire · 10/12/2022 21:37

I find H quite comfortable in front of the camera and comes across as being quite natural and genuine. I feel M is 'acting' it's as though she doesn't know how to be 'natural' and herself in front of the camera. Maybe it's because she's always acted in front of a camera. I'd like to see who she is, being natural and herself. I don't feel we've seen this yet

Kinneddar · 10/12/2022 21:39

PeaceJoySleep · 10/12/2022 20:59

Netflix can't be pleased that there are no new scoops

I'm not sure they'll be bothered. Even with nothing new it's being talked about world wide. The viewing figures will be sky high I bet, ultimately that's what Netflix want

And they'll have absolute gold standard footage for a further documentary if/when they split up

LBFseBrom · 10/12/2022 21:39

Callipygion: His mum was killed by a drunk driver driving too fast.

Yes she was, he was called upon during his time off because Mohammed Fayed's usual driver was not available. With hindsight it would have been better had he refused.

However he may not have driven so fast and recklessly had the paparazzi not been following, including photographers on bikes speeding alongside. If you've seen the footage you will know that's how it was and not everyone who drinks and drives, wrong though it is, ends up crashing.

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