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Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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username8888 · 10/12/2022 20:14

H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

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LBFseBrom · 11/12/2022 01:45

H.boohoo:
Did you watch it because they didn't salt the family. They went for the press and it's about time someone did.
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I wholeheartedly agree with that! Good for Meghan and Harry, they have done nothing wrong.

Of course the press are now baying for their blood but that won't bother them. They can now get on with their lives comfortably.

Lampzade · 11/12/2022 01:50

Loved it and made me feel very differently about them
I don’t think they played them at all. Strange thread

ScotlandEuropa · 11/12/2022 01:51

God I do not care about Meghan. I want the inside scoop on the royals!

Lampzade · 11/12/2022 01:53

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Exactly people just want them to fail . The straw clutching is silly yet amusing

AndEverWhoKnew · 11/12/2022 02:46

From Netflix' pov it would make sense to go for both markets similar to The Cut article but I'm not sure they have done that.

I got the impression it was more about Netflix wanting to criticise the UK/the monarchy/our political system and using H&M as an excuse to do that.

The motorbike scene was odd. It felt exploitative but I'm not sure who was exploiting who.

LBFseBrom · 11/12/2022 05:19

I just looked at the Sunday papers online and, guess what, the HateMail is having a field day with this! However their allegations, insinuations and exaggerations are so ridiculous that I doubt even the most stupid reader would believe a word. Nobody who saw the documentary would, it's too laughable for words. It's as if the Mail writers were watching a different programme!

Next week's episodes will be - interesting.

starrynight21 · 11/12/2022 05:30

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

The UK has strict laws about photographers following celebrities. The USA does not. So how is he protecting his family - they are living the celebrity life in a country where anyone and everyone can follow them .

Shiremum40 · 11/12/2022 05:34

I really warmed to them.

Guitarbar · 11/12/2022 05:47

In an alternate universe they moved to cali with their family but didn't slate his family publicly and keep changing their story. People were excited to see them back for the jubilee, interested to see and hear what they had been up to since leaving the fold and they made their money from something other than what is so far unproven slander based on jealousy and bitterness. Its a shame as both seem quite interesting people who have achieved decent things, but they've backed themselves into a corner really and not sure for what gain. We've heard a few versions of 'their truth' now- Oprah, netflix and soon his book; shame they didn't employ a decent fact checker though. Shame their children won't know his family or most of hers either.

RosettaStormer · 11/12/2022 05:55

liarliarshortsonfire · 10/12/2022 21:37

I find H quite comfortable in front of the camera and comes across as being quite natural and genuine. I feel M is 'acting' it's as though she doesn't know how to be 'natural' and herself in front of the camera. Maybe it's because she's always acted in front of a camera. I'd like to see who she is, being natural and herself. I don't feel we've seen this yet

The only time I thought she was natural was when she appeared with her hair in a towel and no make up. She seemed like a completely different person. Maybe she was still acting though.

Penaltyshootoutfan · 11/12/2022 06:06

I just can’t believe how much of their lives they have sold. I think other than their daughter and sex life, they have sold it all.

it’s just so utterly tawdry. I fully understand when Netflix is paying that much then it would be for them to sell their privacy and that of those around them , and for that much money it had to be a lot they were willing to sell, but good god. I hope the 100 million they’ve pocketed makes it worth rhe personal cost.

Because rhe personal cost is huge, the worlds media is slagging them off, it’s not just the uk, or the daily fail, it’s global, and people they invited to their wedding, like Oprah, are distancing themselves.

other than some die hard fans no one thinks what is happening now is anything other than tawdry and demeaning for all of them.

i don’t think they will ever move on from this, they are becoming so utterly divisive derided contentious public figures that they will feel the need to keep justifying themselves . And each time they do they make it worse.

and after this series, Harry’s book will come out, rehashing the same stuff , giving them even more public scorn, selling his life and woes again for even more money and infamy.

there is no doubt this has back fired hugely, they are literally the Donald trump of reality tv.

Jennybeans401 · 11/12/2022 06:25

I don't think so, Netflix make programmes with mass appeal. They did well as this us number 1 in their chart, higher ratings than The Crown.

Unfortunately thos means Royalty sells, maybe not the best message for Harry who is trying to get the press to leave them alone.

I think they came across well, I'm not a hater, I genuinely think they could have done a lot of good as part of the Royal family. I sometimes can't believe the level of hate people have for Meghan, Prince Andrew is a sex offender and is treated better.

Jennybeans401 · 11/12/2022 06:30

@AndEverWhoKnew I think it was Harry and Megan who were criticising the monarchy. The maps of the British Empire are colonialism narrative. Its their viewpoint, many people share it. I think it's slightly absurd, to me it's the present day we need to be concerned about.its important to educate our children about our past wrongs but all countries have stories similar. It's part of our history.

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 06:32

username8888 · 10/12/2022 22:21

Yes, I hope the blood letting will finish after the book. They are looking increasingly odd and out on a limb. This looking back in anger and attempts to justify themselves is backfiring all over the place. It's not sustainable and they need to shut up and get on with their chosen projects.

it is so interesting how people can watch the same program and walk away with entirely different takes!

For example, I went in expecting them to be as the headlines said - whiny, entitled, annoying. Instead, they were very restrained about their families, shared a bit about their story which had a certain charm to it, and had a lot to say about a toxic media which I complete;y agree with ESPECIALLY for the women.

He really surprised me as he is often refered to as dim. But he is a thoughtful, expessive man.

Like others, I was charmed.

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 06:34

Eyerollcentral · 10/12/2022 21:45

@username8888 I think your first post was spot on. Was chatting to a friend about this earlier on and think this is exactly what will happen. They’ve been given enough rope to hang themselves. I’m a big documentary watcher. This documentary is presented with a blank face. The more you say inevitably the more someone will have to chip away at. H & M have been allowed to present their point of view without critique. There are clear problems with their time lines, their versions of many events and the inclusion of irrelevant footage seems to indicate there are a lot of propositions they cannot support with evidence. Whether Netflix as you say cash in twice with a behind the scenes meta doco or someone else sets out the contrasting versions of events, it seems to be they have been stitched up like a pair of kippers and have yet to fully realise that.

This si a mind blowing post.

Could you show us what you mean? Have we been entirely hoodwinked?

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 06:37

PepperTreeNews · 10/12/2022 22:34

You are mistaken. You have eaten up the Daily Mail hate-M & H narrative and confused it with a global view. Away from the British stream of invective, H&M are very popular

Do you find it strange that the ex editor of the Daily Mail works for KC?

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 06:39

BonnesVacances · 10/12/2022 23:24

Oh the tone deaf arrogance of people picking over how Diana died and whether her son is justified in attributing it to the media circus he grew up with and is now traumatised by.

Just awful! And these are people picking over H&M's behaviour! Confused

Exactly!

Jennybeans401 · 11/12/2022 06:44

@Justasec321 yes I was charmed too. Harry's work for Sentibale was so moving, they both have a social conscience and have done a lot of char

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 06:47

Orangesatsuma · 10/12/2022 23:37

Everyone I’ve spoken to says they’ve come across well. Only DM readers seem to think otherwise but when you see the documentary and compare it to DM headlines you can see just how much the tabloid takes everything out of context and how hateful the pieces they write are.

Its shameful that William and Charles sit back quietly and allow all these terrible articles to be written about their brother / son and have done for the last few years.

Its shameful that William and Charles sit back quietly and allow all these terrible articles to be written about their brother / son and have done for the last few years.

That blows my mind and did not strike me at all until I watched the program. I then googled a bit, and WORSE is that the ex editor of the Daily Mail works for KC! And Lord Rothemere (the owner) is his friend.

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 06:51

Rockybooboo · 10/12/2022 23:49

Did you watch it because they didn't salt the family. They went for the press and it's about time someone did. They don't just go after celebrities but people like The Dowler family and Christopher. Evil bastards.

Why criticise your flesh and blood and accuse them of not marrying for love while you alone married for love?

I thought that was the WHOLE POINT of Charles and Diana? He married for duty and here we are.

How is refering to that trashing his family?

ivykaty44 · 11/12/2022 06:52

@appleyoudontevenknow I watched just the first one of the series & found it dull, if 2&3 are the same I shan’t be wasting time on watching more

hay5689 · 11/12/2022 06:56

For me the biggest takeaway from it was how out of touch with reality and miserable Harry seems. His comments about Thomas Markle selling out his family were laughable when he did exactly the same on Oprah. He also looked deeply uncomfortable when Meghan was doing her mock courtesy, I still think he's going to regret this in years to come and it might be too late to build bridges.

Sling · 11/12/2022 06:59

Do you find it strange that the ex editor of the Daily Mail works for KC?

Actually no, it's poacher turned game keeper. The RF must realise that regardless of what they would like they will survive based on popular opinion, and the tabloids hold great influence on that. As for the editor one presunes they are good at their job which is take an editorial line and run with it.

Of course there's a debate about the ethics of the editorial line regards H&M but that's different to whether the person should have a job at the palace.

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 07:00

Penaltyshootoutfan · 11/12/2022 06:06

I just can’t believe how much of their lives they have sold. I think other than their daughter and sex life, they have sold it all.

it’s just so utterly tawdry. I fully understand when Netflix is paying that much then it would be for them to sell their privacy and that of those around them , and for that much money it had to be a lot they were willing to sell, but good god. I hope the 100 million they’ve pocketed makes it worth rhe personal cost.

Because rhe personal cost is huge, the worlds media is slagging them off, it’s not just the uk, or the daily fail, it’s global, and people they invited to their wedding, like Oprah, are distancing themselves.

other than some die hard fans no one thinks what is happening now is anything other than tawdry and demeaning for all of them.

i don’t think they will ever move on from this, they are becoming so utterly divisive derided contentious public figures that they will feel the need to keep justifying themselves . And each time they do they make it worse.

and after this series, Harry’s book will come out, rehashing the same stuff , giving them even more public scorn, selling his life and woes again for even more money and infamy.

there is no doubt this has back fired hugely, they are literally the Donald trump of reality tv.

You are over egging here.

If you watch it you will see that they actually still maintain a lot of privacy and do not compromise the privacy of those around them unless I missed a bit. You get a view that reminds me of the black and white BBC ones we got from the Qeen in BP over the years.

There really is not a lot to hate when you watch it so posts like this one are a but odd really.

electricmoccasins · 11/12/2022 07:03

3catsandcounting · 10/12/2022 20:19

I thought she was taking the piss out of herself with the curtsey? (I'm no Meghan fan)

She is. She's mocking her own lack of confidence in the situation. She is suggesting she exaggerated her gestures due to a lack of social graces.