Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

@username8888 I think your first post was spot on. Was chatting to a friend about this earlier on and think this is exactly what will happen. They’ve been given enough rope to hang themselves. I’m a big documentary watcher. This documentary is presented with a blank face. The more you say inevitably the more someone will have to chip away at. H & M have been allowed to present their point of view without critique. There are clear problems with their time lines, their versions of many events and the inclusion of irrelevant footage seems to indicate there are a lot of propositions they cannot support with evidence. Whether Netflix as you say cash in twice with a behind the scenes meta doco or someone else sets out the contrasting versions of events, it seems to be they have been stitched up like a pair of kippers and have yet to fully realise that.

However he may not have driven so fast and recklessly had the paparazzi not been following, including photographers on bikes speeding alongside

The actions of what was termed "following vehicles" was deemed a contributory factor in the Inquest's narrative verdict

I think William and Harry both had a fairly traumatic childhood, despite obviously their family being hugely wealthy and privileged and all the rest of it. Their father didn’t love their mother and then their mother died in a horrible crash in front of a frenzied media. William had the prospect of being King to ground him. Harry did not and I expect was always looking for an “out” once he hit maturity (ie, 25+)

Well if you have to explain and defend yourself time and again why don't you just stop and appreciate its not working every single time they do something they have to backtrack and say what we ACTUALLY mean is this 😮‍💨

I know there are still three episodes to come but, so far, there hasn't really been anything surprising, remarkable or shocking. Maybe a little criticism at the institution rather than the people in it. But pretty mild. I found it interesting.

He loved her just not as he should love her when she died he was devastated especially for his children he is always described as an emotional man behind closed doors

@username8888 I hope after this documentary, both sides give it a rest. At some point, everyone actually involved just has to move on.

Speaking out publicly might make you feel better briefly, but I doubt it brings much comfort in the long run. Even if you genuinely think you're the wronged party, at some point, what becomes the most important thing is finding your own way to heal and to live your own life.

Both of those things are explained well in the doc

There's still the book to come. I'm not sure where there is to go after the series and book. I'm undecided if I will have a curious look at the book.

Of course they are. Netflix have no loyalty to them. The media is only interested in hysteria and theatre and if they don’t get it, they create it.

I know one person who watched the first episode out of curiosity and found it so boring and syrupy that they had no interest in watching any more, and that's it. I wonder if it is going to do any real business for Netflix? Obviously there's a flurry of immense media interest in the show at the moment but it doesn't seem like the kind of series that most people will want to watch twice or that new audiences will be drawn to in years to come.

Yes, I hope the blood letting will finish after the book. They are looking increasingly odd and out on a limb. This looking back in anger and attempts to justify themselves is backfiring all over the place. It's not sustainable and they need to shut up and get on with their chosen projects.

You are mistaken. You have eaten up the Daily Mail hate-M & H narrative and confused it with a global view. Away from the British stream of invective, H&M are very popular

Oh hon, if you think that you’re a super fan. No shame in it; go you.

They were speeding because they were being chased by the paparazzi 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

As far as I can see most people are pretty ambivalent about H&M.

Is being in the limelight like this helping her though. Surely the paps are going to be more interested if she's continually in the public eye?

Oh the tone deaf arrogance of people picking over how Diana died and whether her son is justified in attributing it to the media circus he grew up with and is now traumatised by.

Just awful! And these are people picking over H&M's behaviour!

Yes same, I don’t really care either way but I’m so confused by how this is being reported. So strange

Everyone I’ve spoken to says they’ve come across well. Only DM readers seem to think otherwise but when you see the documentary and compare it to DM headlines you can see just how much the tabloid takes everything out of context and how hateful the pieces they write are.

Its shameful that William and Charles sit back quietly and allow all these terrible articles to be written about their brother / son and have done for the last few years.

@pigonalipstick can you summarise or tell me which sections of the three episodes cover those points?

Did you watch it because they didn't salt the family. They went for the press and it's about time someone did. They don't just go after celebrities but people like The Dowler family and Christopher. Evil bastards.

Sure, the whole thing is grounded in them saying they wanted to explain their side of everything, and that's why they were doing it.

And regards the camera footage, they said they were advised to keep a video diary to try and keep them sane/combat the misinformation about them.

I agree...I'm only just watching the 2nd part of the series and so far I'm struggling to see what was so bad that the likes of the DM et al were clutching their pearls in collective hysteria and rage claiming that H&M were attacking the royal family, disrespecting the Queen etc. H&M are telling their story as they have every right to. A royal reporter wrote that Diana would have been horrified at this series. I disagree; Diana courted the media shrewdly when she was alive. She might have been tricked into the Bashir interview, nevertheless she spoke very openly in what was a shocking interview for its time. So my thoughts are that she would have been very supportive of H&M's Netflix tell all.