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Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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username8888 · 10/12/2022 20:14

H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

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beachcitygirl · 11/12/2022 07:39

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WinnieTheW0rm · 11/12/2022 07:42

Do remember that Camilla was not the only OW at the time of his marriage.

The grand love story is an invention - Diana mentioned it, and the phrase was memorable. Diana did not believe Camilla was the only mistress (even with misinformation, she was ready to believe (Mishcon note)). Her aim was to damage Charles (that was also the interview where she said she did not believe he would ever get the 'top job')

And of course it was seized on by those rehabilitating Camilla, turning the phrase intended to harm Charles to his benefit.

I wonder how the narrative around Camilla would change if The Crown had given equal time to at least the other main mistress.

ADifferentKindofChristmas · 11/12/2022 07:48

@Freddieonahill Knowing the hurt it is presumably causing William and his family?

I very much Diana would have been supportive at all.

Karwomannghia · 11/12/2022 07:50

Extract from Earl Spencer’s eulogy -

In paying tribute to his sister, the 9th Earl Spencer reportedly angered the Queen with lines like "Someone with a natural nobility who was classless and who proved in the last year that she needed no royal title to continue to generate her particular brand of magic" and "I pledge that we, your blood family, will do all we can to continue the imaginative and loving way in which you were steering these two exceptional young men so that their souls are not simply immersed by duty and tradition, but can sing openly as you planned."
His words created a rift in the royal family that has only begun to heal in recent years.

All these rifts and angering of the queen caused by people daring to want a bit of normality and to say their own truth. Nothing has changed.

CuordiMela765 · 11/12/2022 07:53

I agree with Spangletown.

I liked them and thought they came across ok. And sorry but everyone who is commenting negatively about the curtsey scene needs to go back and watch it again.

She said she overdid the drama of the curtsey when she was first called upon to do it. She was criticising herself for doing a curtsey out of a medieval drama!

Doris86 · 11/12/2022 07:54

iwasaterribleteen · 10/12/2022 20:35

I actually warmed to them and am "on their side".

His mum was killed at the hands of he paparazzi.

He's got his wife away to stop that happening to her.

He's doing what any decent man should do!

Yes he has taken his wife away for a quiet life, out of the public eye where she will be safe from media intrusion.

Oh, wait a minute……..

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 07:55

OLP2019 · 11/12/2022 07:35

They are literally saying the entire royal family and British public are racist and that's what happened. That's why so many people are upset because she was welcomed by the public so all their claims are so out of left field and made to suit their agenda

They are literally saying the entire royal family and British public are racist and that's what happened.

Not true - he very clearly says that some elements of coverage and sm were racist. He asked for help but the answer he got was - all the wives go through this why should yours be any different?

So he does not literally say all Brits and all his family are racist.

He literally says they got no help to deal with the racisim though.

Karwomannghia · 11/12/2022 07:59

He’s taken her away from the royal family and the gagging order that brings.

Netflis · 11/12/2022 08:00

Netflix's job is to get as many people to subscribe to their service as possible and make money. That's their fiduciary duty to their shareholders. So long as it's legal, then Netflix should do whatever it takes to drive profits for its owners.

Separately, I love the series 😀

SnowlayRoundabout · 11/12/2022 08:01

And regards the camera footage, they said they were advised to keep a video diary to try and keep them sane/combat the misinformation about them.

I really don't see how all that somewhat paranoid inward focus helps to keep them sane; and inevitably a video diary is going to be seen as their attempt to put their own spin on things but won't prevent misinformation, or information that they don't want to be made public.

torquewench · 11/12/2022 08:04

The part about the proposal bugged me.

Has anyone else recorded a telephone conversation with their friend to tell them it was about to happen although the proposal was apparently a total surprise ?

SnowlayRoundabout · 11/12/2022 08:05

So Harry is speaking out about it and still so many hate him for daring to state the glaring obvious that it’s not acceptable. Why shouldn’t they speak out about some of the absurdities and hypocrisies of the royal family with its bowing and slavery? What is everyone so scared of?

But he doesn't really, does he? If he was really that anti- Royal privilege, why do they make such an issue of the children's titles, why did he make that fuss about being able to wear uniform and the insignia of the Queen's aide at events around her funeral, why does he keep the Dukedom, why does he take family money?

SnowlayRoundabout · 11/12/2022 08:05

And I don't think anyone is "scared of" him and M. The RF have ridden out bigger crises than this one.

debbrianna · 11/12/2022 08:06

I think people are a bit weird about the courtesy thing. I don't understand the magnitude of it and who wants to bow to another human. Only British people are falling over themselves over this.

The documentary was funny. It also shows that Meghan was not prepped. Who tells the girlfriend last minute they are going to meet their grandma? These are things in everyday life we prepare for. You didn't just tell someone last minute.

Pupinski · 11/12/2022 08:08

They produced it, didn't they? I doubt they were entirely hands-off, but they'll have had half a mind on their paymasters and the need for big audiences. It's how they earn their living now. Schmaltz sells, for some reason...

Pupinski · 11/12/2022 08:11

SnowlayRoundabout · 11/12/2022 08:05

So Harry is speaking out about it and still so many hate him for daring to state the glaring obvious that it’s not acceptable. Why shouldn’t they speak out about some of the absurdities and hypocrisies of the royal family with its bowing and slavery? What is everyone so scared of?

But he doesn't really, does he? If he was really that anti- Royal privilege, why do they make such an issue of the children's titles, why did he make that fuss about being able to wear uniform and the insignia of the Queen's aide at events around her funeral, why does he keep the Dukedom, why does he take family money?

Because stripped of those things he'd lose his mega bucks earning potential. He'd have to get a proper job.

Karwomannghia · 11/12/2022 08:14

SnowlayRoundabout · 11/12/2022 08:05

So Harry is speaking out about it and still so many hate him for daring to state the glaring obvious that it’s not acceptable. Why shouldn’t they speak out about some of the absurdities and hypocrisies of the royal family with its bowing and slavery? What is everyone so scared of?

But he doesn't really, does he? If he was really that anti- Royal privilege, why do they make such an issue of the children's titles, why did he make that fuss about being able to wear uniform and the insignia of the Queen's aide at events around her funeral, why does he keep the Dukedom, why does he take family money?

It is possible to point out absurdities and hypocrisies and still be part of the family he grew up in, or it should be. Why shouldn’t he be able to retain parts of being in the royal family, but live elsewhere? Why should his kids be stripped of their heritage?

teapotfullofsquash · 11/12/2022 08:16

I thought a lot of it was odd. The video diaries as soon as he left the royal family. The strange proposal conversation she had with her friend. Also I don't think Harry comes across very well as he didn't seem to prepare her for what was quite obviously expected of her.

RosettaStormer · 11/12/2022 08:17

I love the way he says he really valued being in the Army because he got to be with ‘ordinary people’, yet he’s chosen to live like an A list celebrity taking private jets and with the bills to match. When he met M he was living in a modest cottage at Kensington. If he really wants to be an ordinary bloke he can drop his titles, stop using his connections to make money, cut down on all his spending and go back to flying helicopters.

lemmein · 11/12/2022 08:18

That blows my mind and did not strike me at all until I watched the program. I then googled a bit, and WORSE is that the ex editor of the Daily Mail works for KC! And Lord Rothemere (the owner) is his friend.

Not forgetting too that Piers Morgan claimed that a member of the RF contacted him to thank him for his support (his support equating to ripping the duchess apart every single morning)

SnowlayRoundabout · 11/12/2022 08:19

Karwomannghia · 11/12/2022 08:14

It is possible to point out absurdities and hypocrisies and still be part of the family he grew up in, or it should be. Why shouldn’t he be able to retain parts of being in the royal family, but live elsewhere? Why should his kids be stripped of their heritage?

Because it makes him look just a tad hypocritical, doesn't it? There is no non-hyporcitical way to say "I scorn all this privilege and what goes with these titles, but don't you dare take them away from me."

MulderSmoulder · 11/12/2022 08:21

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And yet they came back to be very publicly and prominently part of the Queen’s funeral. & that ‘shit show of a family’.

They are massive hypocrites that’s the problem people have with them.

And where did they flee to from our awful, racist country: America - no racism there whatsoever, right?

SirChenjins · 11/12/2022 08:21

Karwomannghia · 11/12/2022 08:14

It is possible to point out absurdities and hypocrisies and still be part of the family he grew up in, or it should be. Why shouldn’t he be able to retain parts of being in the royal family, but live elsewhere? Why should his kids be stripped of their heritage?

Because he’s an adult man who can choose to walk away from a family

SirChenjins · 11/12/2022 08:23

A family which (in his mind) causes him and his wife so much misery, which is racist to its core, which caused his serious MH issues and so on. If this was someone posting on MN they’d be advised to go NC immediately and to hell with the money.

PepperTreeNews · 11/12/2022 08:25

OLP2019 · 11/12/2022 07:35

They are literally saying the entire royal family and British public are racist and that's what happened. That's why so many people are upset because she was welcomed by the public so all their claims are so out of left field and made to suit their agenda

Britain is disgracefully racist. Meghan has been subjected to a long-winded, state-sanctioned campaign of vile abuse simply because of her colour. It really is that simple. Until you are a woman of colour marrying into the firm, you cannot possibly know how toxic it is. Her life is literally at risk because of her colour.