Harry & Meghan #1 on Netflix Top 10 TV Programmes in the UK

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Harry and Meghan's show is number 1 on Netflix in the UK and US. Did you watch it people of Mumsnet?

Surely any mature adult wouldn't need to be told how to behave in front of the queen without the immature "medieval " bow she claims she did (I appreciate in the interview she exaggerated the move.) Surely it's just basic adult decorum.

Had the day off and utterly bored 😅

peddle their scanty wares did make me laugh out loud. Thank you.

Its very telling that they have both cut themselves off from close family. M didn't attempt to reconcile with her father and H has never met his FIL.
I give them another couple of years and the scales will fall from his eyes.

What about Meghan's mother Doria, Meghan's niece Ashleigh. Eugenie visited Harry earlier these year, he fell out with his brother, life happens.

I am over this narrative that Meghan somehow bewitched him. Scale fall from his eyes, ok 😐

That's nicer than some have been on here, thanks for clarifying😅

The bit I thought was nasty was when some “friend” of Harry’s was talking about how it can be seen to be so wrong/odd that due to birth some family are deemed to have the right to be supreme monarchs, etc. and that the royal family need to modernise.

i don’t actually have a view on whether he’s right or wrong but I do think it’s bad that Harry allowed such a thing to be said. Not only is it slinging mud at non modernised (in their view) members of the royal family but it shakes the whole idea of the basis of the royal family. And this was recorded while the Queen was still alive. She would have been horrified. Her whole life was about protecting and preserving the monarchy.

I watched it and I quite enjoyed it. Based on the kinda constant oneupmanship and making all conversations about her 'pain', I'm not a fan of M but it was still very interesting seeing things from their perspective. It's clear that no one prepared her for life in the fishbowl and she just assumed it was a bigger platform to talk about her pet subjects. But in reality she was marrying into a life of 'put up and shut up'. I still haven't landed on a view...I think there's been extreme selfishness on their part, particularly all the pain this would have caused the Queen, but I am still glad I have seen the other side of the story.

One of the interesting things is that she describes meeting the Queen for the first time and I think she's actually mocking herself by saying how over the top her curtsey was as she had no idea what to do. Interestingly though the tabloids today have reported she was mocking the Queen. That's not how I saw it at all.

Little things like that give an insight into how the papers manipulate everything for clickbait/sales.

I watched 2 episodes yesterday and the last one today.

I found it interesting. A lot of stuff I wasn't surprised to hear...but I duct know she was friends with her niece, who then couldn't attend the wedding.

Her half sister who didn't even raise her own child, claiming she raised Meghan. It was so obvious she was jealous of Meghan. She was the one who encouraged her dad to take those staged photos.

The media, although they deny it, have a big part in ruining a few relationships within the RF.

That was nonsense on the niece. She could easily have invited her and had her there, everyone bloody knows there is bad blood with the sister. She choose not to invite her and then they used her to bad mouth her own mother on the show

I think you watch my kind of stuff!

I did watch one episode of the Harry and Meghan programme and found it quite dull.
Might watch more if I fancy watching something and the kids are around.

Boring and dull seems to be a far greater consensus than I expected, i have just had a cousin tell me they felt the same. Yikes.

It may have a high amount of views but the reviews that people are leaving speak volumes. 2.1/5 summary on Google, 3.2/10 on IMDband 38% on Rotton Tomatoes.
2.4m watched the first episode, 1.5 the second and 800k the third. Netflix is known for binge watch shows. People seem to be turning off.

Can't say i'm surprised seeing as some find it boring. Let's see what the weekend numbers bring.

I've just seen that these are UK numbers, makes sense then 😅

I've not caught up yet, was the wedding ceremony mentioned at all?

I liked it, but I always related to the culture shock element that Meghan is trying to explain. I had a hard enough time adjusting to marrying into a working class Scottish family (and we get along now, but it took a few years to see eye to eye).

I very much had the impression that M was making fun of herself and her curtsey, and trying to explain that her only frame of reference for it was from a chain of medieval-themed restaurants with over-the-top actors. I didn't realize even family members were supposed to curtsey to the Queen until I watched The Crown. It may be tradition, but it's also bizarre. It's definitely not something Americans grow up knowing about, or knowing how to do. Why would we ever need to know that?? And why wouldn't you shake hands with or hug your boyfriend's grandma when meeting her for the first time? Why would ritual and formality extend even to immediate family members?

Harry mentions that he needed to ask his grandmother for permission to propose, despite being pretty far removed from inheriting the throne by then. I got the impression that in addition to anyone's normal meet-the-family nerves, it probably mattered to them both a great deal that the Queen approved of Meghan.

He was an eejit for forgetting to explain to M all the myriad customs that apply to the Queen before introducing them. But that's the thing about culture shock. It's never generated by the big things. It's from all minutiae that everyone assumes is just normal, only to find out it's very different to the point of socially awkward.

In episode 3, they ended the series at the point just before the wedding.

Only watched ep1 so far. Immediate thoughts are that I feel so sorry for how Harry was treated as a child after his mum died. No child should be treated like that.. in the midst of grief and confusion with 100s of camera in his face. It's shocking really.. I feel like he has been failed in some way. He looked so vulnerable.

I'm not a huge fan of H&M so we will see what I think of the next two episodes.

Harry & Meghan's (first and second episodes) beat the opening episode of season five of The Crown, which generated 1.1 million streams on the day of its premiere last month.

‘Harry & Meghan’ Scores Netflix’s Highest UK Ratings Of The Year

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That was nonsense on the niece. She could easily have invited her and had her there, everyone bloody knows there is bad blood with the sister. She choose not to invite her and then they used her to bad mouth her own mother on the show

It wasn't their decision.

You're missing one of the points they're making, that so much was not within their control.

If the press hit to find out who she was, she would have been hounded here and that's not the press the Palace and establishment would want.

Boring and dull seems to be a far greater consensus than I expected

Yet so many people will continue watching it.

He was an eejit for forgetting to explain to M all the myriad customs that apply to the Queen before introducing them.

When you're born into it that's his normal.

Tbh, it just brings home how very outdated the monarchy is. This outdated bowing and the rest of the nonsense...I can see how that lifestyle is so stiff.

Ah ok, I've only watched the first 2 and really enjoyed them. I think it's completely reasonable to want to defend yourself when you've been treated with so much hatred. I see comments all the time "they're not welcome in the UK, we don't want them" as if they speak for everyone. It's quite frightening people can be so vicious about someone they don't know.

Had to laugh at the articles they showed - yes Daily Mail, I'm sure the Queen was straight on the phone to tell you she was raging they were stepping down from Royal duties 🙄

Oh god just seen a clip on tiktok of where she does that exaggerated curtsey saying that’s how she greeted the Queen when she met her for the first time. I’m actually cringing for her. Because I’m sure she’s not stupid enough to have done anything like that…..so why lie about it? Even Harry looked super uncomfortable. I mean he must know she’s a pathological liar.

I enjoyed it.

No I don’t think it was that, although interesting perspective.

I am really struggling to square it in my mind so I will just blab on for a sec and it might not make any sense. Apologies if so.

Like why did she have to sneak across London, why did he not just send a car. Why did he not tell her about curtesying until driving up the drive and in hindsight why is he still giggling about that rather than feeling embarrassed he’s not prepared her for any of it. And not just these two things. It seemed thing after thing.

I don’t want to say he set her up to fail because that seems quite harsh and I do think he really loves her. But it does seem there’s something odd going on as don’t think he’s stupid or useless and Megan strikes me as someone who would communicate her needs quite clearly and upfront - like ‘it’s such a nightmare getting across from the airport and sneaking in’. They are clearly good at communicating to each other what’s upsetting them.

Maybe there’s some kind of subliminal wanted to set them both up to leave the royal family and/or blow up and take revenge on the media. Or somehow to share solace in all things he hates about his life so wanted her to experience it as fully as possible. Or maybe it’s deeper than that and Harry didn’t want to tell her all these crazy things properly as didn’t want to scare her away so was like faux naive ‘oh I didn’t know other families don’t curtesy and that most people have no idea how to curtesy’ or maybe even it was a ‘oh how different am I’ way similar to how Megan talked about those men who make a women wait half hour but in a different way. A way to show how superior he is.

Or my most sinister of thoughts is that he was purposefully failing to help and allowing these challenges and surprises as was trying to condition her for bigger and worse surprises. Kind of how abuse starts low level and gets progressively worse. But not direct abuse, more allowing indirect abuse he could have somewhat helped to shelter/ warn her from.

I just don’t know. Even rereading that it’s incomprehensible and I have no idea where I am going. Maybe the next 3 episodes will help me square it a bit more.

Wow, thank you, I will get back to this. Some of the points you've raised i've heard in other places.