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Kate Middleton - Lucky Life

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 07/12/2022 07:24

Kate really has had the life of a lot of women's complete fantasies hasn't she?

Born into a well off middle-class family

Received private education. Hobbies. Makes great connections at university eg William

Financially supported into her late 20s and beyond

Works for a few weeks at Jigsaw then never worked another job again.

Pictured clubbing and falling out of taxis when most her age were working thankless jobs.

Can pay for cosmetic surgery eg Botox and hair treatments. Has amazing clothes.

Marries a prince.

Lives in a luxurious beautiful houses paid for by the inherited wealth of her grandmother in law, her father in law, and by taxpayers.

Never done a boring / basic job in her life, has no financial worries ever.

On paper it is so much better than my life !!

I've had to grind my way out of a poor upbringing, educated on scholarships, and get into higher pay brackets like most do!

OP posts:
Marulatree · 07/12/2022 09:59

MrsMaxDeWinter · 07/12/2022 07:38

I did not do the Meghan post.

But I found it hypocritical that much the same can be said about Kate, but only Meghan hates the hate about her upbringing and privilege.

And yes, the same can be said of Camilla, and of Zara and of Anne etc.

Britain is a class based society, headed by a monarchy, so I find it odd that it is the class privilege of a biracial American, Meghan that gets taken part, but not that of the others, all white English, who actually sit at the top of the food pile of British society, while she has left it.

This is to bring some balance.

Absolutely!

jeffgoldblum · 07/12/2022 10:01

To be fair , the Meghan one also descended into a " let's slag Kate off thread".
Lately it seems you can't have a thread about either that doesn't include both being mentioned!

AliensToTheLeft · 07/12/2022 10:01

milti · 07/12/2022 09:57

😂😂😂😂 deep down I think Megan looks better - okaayyy

One things for sure, you’re ugly in the inside.

vera99 · 07/12/2022 10:01

What time is the 'big match' on and will there be a group live feed blow by blow thread....for us low life Netflixers that will be watching it ?

NewStartIn50s · 07/12/2022 10:01

She might appear to have it all but the constant slagging off by her brother in law and sil must get a bit annoying and stressful since played out in public. She comes over and grown up and getting on with it whereas H&M come over as whiney and jealous but who really knows how she feels.

stuntbubbles · 07/12/2022 10:04

I do envy her hair extensions and never having to work a day in her life or worry about energy bills or DIY or life admin, but it also all looks quite boring. It’s not as though she can decide to write a novel or do a second degree or anything interesting with her time. Plus all the dieting and knowing her photo will always be taken, together with the invasive nude pap shots she’s had, ugh.

And I wouldn’t swap her life for mine for anything: she’s had children knowingly signing them up for this choiceless future, what parent would want that?

AliensToTheLeft · 07/12/2022 10:04

jeffgoldblum · 07/12/2022 10:01

To be fair , the Meghan one also descended into a " let's slag Kate off thread".
Lately it seems you can't have a thread about either that doesn't include both being mentioned!

I just don’t get why it’s Kate v Megan, down to how they look in a dress. I doubt any of us know either of them. They both seem nice enough, both have elements of their lives that are easy and hard.

ImAvingOops · 07/12/2022 10:06

I do take exception to the comment upthread that Kate's children have been born into a life of servitude - if only my kids could experience such servitude!

milti · 07/12/2022 10:06

ooooooohhh - I’m hurt - left eye - 3 seconds and I might just cwwwwyyyy

stuntbubbles · 07/12/2022 10:06

AliensToTheLeft · 07/12/2022 10:04

I just don’t get why it’s Kate v Megan, down to how they look in a dress. I doubt any of us know either of them. They both seem nice enough, both have elements of their lives that are easy and hard.

Media pits woman against woman, a tale as old as time.

A fun plot twist would be if Kate and Meghan both left their husbands and became BFFs in a houseshare together, mentored by Fergie, commiserating and reminiscing about their imprisonments by The Firm.

BellePeppa · 07/12/2022 10:07

You could say the same for lots of people. Harper Beckham will never have to worry about money or jobs, Blue Ivy the same and any other daughter (if we’re talking women) of a very rich family. Not sure what your point is.

Coxspurplepippin · 07/12/2022 10:11

But Kate isn't perpetually complaining about her privileged situation. She's not making TV programmes and writing books, doing interviews slagging her family/in laws off. She's not complaining about how her situation caused her to become suicidal, how she and her husband have mental health challenges and then proceeding to act in a manner which may cause anxiety and mental health issues in others.

There's not much about the wider Markle family in the narrative, and I wonder why that is - the Markles were not kind, pleasant, when Meghan and Harry were married, they were critical, unsupportive and generally behaved like brats, yet it's Harry's family who are coming in for the mud slinging. Could it possibly be because no-one is interested in the Markles but there's money to be made from the royal connection? Grin

ImAvingOops · 07/12/2022 10:13

I think we have to move away from the narrative that there's no choice here. Kate is exactly where she chose to be. And her kids aren't handcuffed to the railings at Buckingham Palace - they can choose different lives.
But the fact is, the positives outweigh the negatives. Which is why the RF fight so hard to cling on and protect their position. If it was as awful as some posters on this thread have been suckered into believing, more of them would leave. Since they don't, I conclude that there's a lot which is good about their lives.

AliensToTheLeft · 07/12/2022 10:14

stuntbubbles · 07/12/2022 10:06

Media pits woman against woman, a tale as old as time.

A fun plot twist would be if Kate and Meghan both left their husbands and became BFFs in a houseshare together, mentored by Fergie, commiserating and reminiscing about their imprisonments by The Firm.

Ha. Can you imagine. 😂

stuntbubbles · 07/12/2022 10:16

ImAvingOops · 07/12/2022 10:13

I think we have to move away from the narrative that there's no choice here. Kate is exactly where she chose to be. And her kids aren't handcuffed to the railings at Buckingham Palace - they can choose different lives.
But the fact is, the positives outweigh the negatives. Which is why the RF fight so hard to cling on and protect their position. If it was as awful as some posters on this thread have been suckered into believing, more of them would leave. Since they don't, I conclude that there's a lot which is good about their lives.

Do you think the oldest one (dunno their names) can choose not to be the William? Refuse to be a working royal, refuse the titles, refuse the kingdom? Without, say, a massive Harry-and-Meghan-style fallout and backlash and losing his family? Plus then the whole pressurised shebang just moves on to the next one.

Tiredallofthetime · 07/12/2022 10:19

Because Harper Beckham and Ivy Blue were born to extremely wealthy parents. Children are born to parents of extreme wealth every day and this is not comparable to the Royals because the Royals fulfil a role, and those roles are seen, rightly or wrongly, by some as part of our national identity and by others as a drain on public resources that is not worth the cost.

I didn’t hear gun salutes when Ivy Blue or Harper Beckham were born. Likewise, the Royals will throughout their lives be entitled to the very best in terms of education, medical care and so on - KM is never going to struggle to get a GP appointment or anything like that. All of that is provided on tap, and this isn’t just about being ultra-rich, it does go somewhat beyond that.

The full power of the state is made available for the foreseeable future for Will, Kate and their three children. This isn’t just due to them having money - it isn’t ‘well, they are spending their money how they choose and really, why wouldn’t they?’ It’s due to an accident of birth and our perception of ‘royal blood.’

So the ‘point’ if you like is that while the role undoubtedly comes with downsides, there are enormous advantages and privileges with it and I for one am rolling my eyes to the ceiling that posters keep insisting it’s an awful life really..

Readinginthesun · 07/12/2022 10:21

AliensToTheLeft · 07/12/2022 09:56

Bless, you must be very unhappy to have to bitch like you do.

Just in case you missed my follow up :
“In my opinion , the dress , like so many designer outfits that MM wears , doesn’t fit properly. She is a very attractive woman with long legs but she consistently chooses the wrong outfits for her shape . Not her fault she hasn’t a perfect shape ( neither do I) but she really needs to employ a good tailor .”

I stand by that . She wears beautiful clothes but they don’t fit .

Trinity65 · 07/12/2022 10:28

So what
Nobody picks who we are born too and Kate (and siblings) got lucky .
That's It.

nookierookie · 07/12/2022 10:29

@Marulatree

Isn't it the complaining that makes the difference? I.e. Kate doesn't claim to have been from a background that is in any way disadvantaged, nor does she claim any particular expertise (you can see this in her early years stuff where she sits at a table and says a few bland things and introduces the experts and in the interviews she has given in motherhood, where she acknowledges that she has access to a lot of help that others have not had - contrast with the Meghan podcasts) plus she isn't complaining publicly about the way she has been treated.

I think it is the way that Meghan presents herself, which, by the way, is really not exceptional from an American perspective, far less from a Hollywood perspective that gets up some people's noses. If Kate claimed to have been from a "normal" family growing up and to have the "same struggles" as other women, then I think she would be absolutely crucified, whereas I think that this narrative is something that is pushed by Meghan, not least because she has to earn money, which means commercialising yourself as relatable to other women.

I do believe, by the way, that Meghan has been subject to vile racism. But I also do believe that there is a culture clash that can't just be attributed to racism and that Brits really hate hypocrisy. Meghan does come across as a bit tone deaf in that context, though I think she presents very well on visits to places she is passionate about because she does have a lot of charisma and a warmth of personality that many royals lack. Unfortunately, the louder you shout about the issues of the day, the more people will hate you if you don't live inkeeping with them - look at the criticism of Emma Thompson for attending a climate demonstration via private jet, for example. I don't think that Americans have this to such a great extent and it is a very complicated code of behaviour.

I don't hate Meghan. I think she is fundamentally unsuited to Royal life and that should have been handled better by those around her, including her husband. I don't think that this makes her less, however - it's no bad thing for a woman to have opinions about things and to be engaged with issues. It's just not really compatible with being a Royal. I wish that she and Harry could move on, though - the mud slinging in public is unedifying.

I think Kate is enormously privileged, I don't think she would deny this. Fortunately, whilst not extremely wealthy, I have sufficient money myself to be able to live a good life, so I would not want what Kate has in terms of the trade offs, but if I did lack my privileges, I would definitely think Kate's life is enviable.

dottiedodah · 07/12/2022 10:37

On paper looks great,however I would hate to have my whole life planned out ,never being able to relax even when shopping .Lots of people dont have money worries but can stress over many more issues.In lots of ways she is held up as a Model Princess ,but in reality she is still a modern day woman .

AnnunciataZ · 07/12/2022 10:41

A fun plot twist would be if Kate and Meghan both left their husbands and became BFFs in a houseshare together, mentored by Fergie, commiserating and reminiscing about their imprisonments by The Firm.

It's the reality TV show we never knew we needed!

Ch3wylemon · 07/12/2022 10:45

ChessieFL · 07/12/2022 07:31

Pippa has the better life - all the same advantages but without all the scrutiny that Kate gets.

And dodged a bullet with Harry.

PicturesOfDogs · 07/12/2022 10:50

BeckyWithTheAverageHair · 07/12/2022 07:52

No, that was Diana who was on show everyday. She couldn't even go to the gym without being hounded by paparazzi. There seems to be some sort of agreement with the press in place now, because you rarely see candid snaps of Kate. Occasionally a random passer-by snaps a shot of her and the kids doing something mundane like buying sweets but that's about it.

She's stepping up more now that she's PoW but she's had the luxury of ten years of only doing the occasional engagement or tour and being able to spend a lot of time with her children. As has William. Even now she effectively disappears during the school holidays. So no, I don't think she's on display every day and she gets plenty of time to raise her young family.

Kate used to be hounded I think, and then I William did something, not sure what. he certainly threatened to at the time to take any steps necessary be it through criminal and civil courts.

It all died down after that.

susan12345678 · 07/12/2022 10:52

Kate is lucky because she has certain things no amount of money can ever buy. A close-knit, loving family and endlessly supportive parents. A loyal group of old friends from school and university. Three beautiful and well-adjusted children. Kate is exceptionally attractive, tall with model good looks. She has also been blessed with intelligence and a naturally calm and stoic personality. But above all, she is likable.

BatCheeseIsFine · 07/12/2022 10:53

I like Kate. She does have a job, and like the queen, she's good at it. Whether you think that job should exist is a separate issue (I'm not sure myself) but given that it does, she's a good fit and makes lots of people happy doing engagements. She doesn't complain or make out she's hard done by (even though as PPs have said, just because she's materially well-off doesn't make everything about her life easy or desirable). She seems nice and genuinely caring, though of course I don't know her and can't really tell. And I like her style. For someone often called boring and dull, she has fabulous taste and can really work it when she wants to.

(Just want her to try a short haircut, she would look amazing...)

There are loads of women who are born into wealth and privilege and have everything they could want and loads of help with their kids - and others who become that at some point in whatever way. You just aren't aware of most of them. And loads of us who are worse off to varying degrees. Yes it's not fair and no one should live in grinding poverty - but I'd still defend her as making a good job of the situation she's in.

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